Episode 1

LEGALLY LIAR: Legally Blonde (2001) & Liar Liar (1997)

Diving Deep into Legal Comedies: Legally Blonde and Liar Liar

This comprehensive behind-the-scenes analysis covers comedic legal classics: Legally Blonde and Liar Liar. It includes plot dissection, inspection of pivotal character arcs, and exploration of the impressive blend of humor and riveting narratives. It features the transformation of Reese Witherspoon's Elle Woods from a stereotyped sorority queen to a formidable law graduate, and Jim Carrey's struggle in a reality where he is forced to tell the truth in Liar Liar. The discussion extends to the analysis of plot twists, comical moments, trivia, deleted scenes, alternate castings, and iconic lines in Liar Liar. The discourse concludes with thoughts on rules for linking actors within six degrees and future discussions on time-bending romance films.


00:01 Introduction and Kickoff of the New Season

00:32 Choosing the Movies: Legally Blonde and Liar Liar

01:43 Preparation and Initial Thoughts on Legally Blonde

01:45 The Drinks: A Discussion on Bourbon and Margaritas

04:50 Breaking Down Legally Blonde: The Arc and Structure

05:22 Reflections on Reese Witherspoon's Career

08:32 Deep Dive into Legally Blonde's Script Structure

10:50 Analyzing Character Arcs and Key Scenes in Legally Blonde

31:23 Wrapping Up Legally Blonde: Final Thoughts and Trivia

37:13 Bend and Snap

39:18 Transition to Liar Liar 

45:26 Liar Liar Logline

46:12 Discussion on the Film's “Magic” Rules

46:27 Breaking Down the Beats: Analyzing the Film's Structure

47:12 The Power of Honesty: Exploring the Film's Theme

48:33 The B Story: Introducing the Confidant

49:04 The Turning Point: The Inciting Incident

53:10 Fun and Games and Midpoint Scene

01:04:14 The Climax: The Courtroom Scene

01:04:22 Bad Guys Closing In and All is Lost

01:06:01 Break into Act Three and Five Point Finale

01:09:10 The Resolution: A Reunited Family

01:12:06 Trivia and Final Thoughts


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Transcript
Jerome:

Which is another funny part.

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He wants your legal advice.

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Stop breaking the law, asshole!

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Which, he's telling the truth!

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Not just to stop breaking

the that guy is an asshole!

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All right, sorry.

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I am very, very excited

and proud to kick off:

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This is episode one, the January episode.

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And it is called Legally Liar.

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We've decided to pick, for

some reason, two law movies.

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I think that just kind of fell

in our lap because we wanted

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to do a couple of comedies.

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Yeah.

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And then we got a recommendation

on Legally Blonde from,

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I think, your daughters?

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Chris: Yeah, one of them.

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I mean, I think Kaitlynn, maybe.

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I know Kaitlynn loves this movie.

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We actually watched both of these

movies on Sunday with everyone over.

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Nice.

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And all the kids were over.

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And I had already watched them both

earlier in the week because I thought

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we were going to record last week.

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Jerome: Right.

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Chris: So it was fun.

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Jerome: Um, So in addition to

Legally Blonde, which again was a

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recommendation, we thought, well,

that's kind of a law film with comedy.

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What other law comedy can we think of?

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And immediately, we both agreed

on Liar Liar, starring Jim Carrey.

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Yes.

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And I'm looking forward to breaking both

of these down to see if they can arc.

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Again, the biggest thing on our show.

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So, when we break down script structure

is the arc of the main character, and

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do they have tangible and spiritual

goals, and, and things like that.

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So I want to start with Legally

Blonde, if that's alright.

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Chris: Yep, before we do,

let's talk about our drinks.

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Now, I'm actually decked out,

we're on audio, but I, I got

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my Metallica Lady Justice.

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shirt on you know, it was a law theme,

so I had to break out my Metallica

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Lady Justice from Injustice for All.

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Let me get the ice for my drink.

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I am putting ice in it.

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It's bourbon.

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If it was a good scotch, we

wouldn't be uh, doing ice.

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Jerome: We're kicking the year off

with not just our first disagreement.

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As we sometimes disagree on movies.

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We're kicking the year off with the first

disagreement of the year with booze.

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He is drinking.

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Go ahead and announce it.

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Chris: Yeah, I'm drinking Larceny.

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It's, I, I think it's a

good, inexpensive bourbon.

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Now, my brother has a

different opinion about that.

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Jerome: I think it is a

bad, inexpensive bourbon.

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Oh, God.

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So, I tried Larceny.

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But after you drink a few

of those, it doesn't matter.

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So, I tried Larceny.

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And, and for the makers of larceny,

please don't be insulted by the massive

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insult I'm about to give your bourbon.

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I felt, in my opinion,

it has a dirt aftertaste.

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Chris: It is earthy.

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Jerome: It, oh, oh, it, you're

drinking the earth all right.

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That is definitely, I mean, it is soil.

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Like real, when I say dirt,

I don't mean like garbage.

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I mean dirt, like out in your front yard.

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Dirt, like soil.

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It has that sort of kick after

you drink it, like an aftertaste.

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I finished my bottle, of course.

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I'm not going to waste any booze,

but the entire time I was like, Man,

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I'm just loading up on soil here.

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Chris: Well, larceny, if you want

me to promote it on our podcast

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again, I will gladly accept a

bottle if you want to send me one.

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Jerome: You don't have to send me one.

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You can send one to my brother.

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Now I, on the other hand,

I'm doing a little throwback.

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Last year, for those of you that

witnessed it, we actually did our first

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video cast as well with our, our buddy

Leigh over at Lights Camera Rant, where

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we did a YouTube two hour and a half

video breaking down Jaws versus Jaws 4.

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On that show, my drink of

choice was the Sharkarita.

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It was basically a margarita with

blue curacao in it and make it blue.

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I have revisited that today

because what are lawyers?

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Lawyers are sharks.

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Ah.

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So I am bringing out my sharkarita

in honor of both the videocast we did

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last year and to kick off 2024 with

a couple of shark movies that aren't

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really about sharks, about lawyers.

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Chris: All I know is your tongue

and lips are gonna be blue.

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Jerome: Oh, yeah, they're going to.

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Yep.

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But I'm also backing up with my, my TALs.

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I have my TAL backups, my lightsabers.

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Chris: Cheers.

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Jerome: Cheers to 2024.

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Chris: Let's jump in.

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Jerome: So before we kick it

off, how was your new year?

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Chris: I suspect it's going to be

great because it's December still here.

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Jerome: Okay.

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But for the audience, we're supposed

to be acting like this is January.

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Chris: Well happy new year, Jer.

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Jerome: Happy New Year to you.

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Mine was awesome.

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I hope it is now so I can live up to that.

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Okay.

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Let's start with Legally Blonde.

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Before I get into the specs let's talk

a little bit about our relationship.

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I just saw this movie for the first

time to prepare for this podcast.

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Chris: Wow, really?

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Jerome: Yeah.

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I don't know, it was one of those

things that just sort of got by me.

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I was aware of it, you know,

we talked before on a previous

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podcast about like Hugo.

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Hugo, I didn't even, I

didn't even know it existed.

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Like I was just like, I don't

know how I did, I missed it.

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It being a multi Oscar name and

it Oscar nominated Scorsese film.

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I don't know how I missed it,

but this one I was aware of.

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I knew that it catapulted

Reese Witherspoon as a, as

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an A list a single lead.

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What I mean by single lead is, I

think before this she did a few films.

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Where she was kind of a lead

with other leads, like opposite a

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male lead, like in Walk the Line.

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But this was the first time she was

asked to carry a film on her own.

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And it, it, it was a huge success.

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And it catapulted her into being a leading

lady to where she can, she doesn't need

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a male counterpart or another lead.

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She was the lead of this.

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So I was aware of its place in the world.

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And its place in Reese Witherspoon's

life and I knew it was successful,

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I just never got around to it.

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I don't know what it was, I never got

around to it, but I'm happy to say

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I watched it twice for this podcast.

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How about you?

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Chris: So I just had to look it up, we

talked about Walk the Line before, this

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came out a few years before Walk the Line.

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Walk the Line was 2005,

this, what was this,:

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Jerome: This was 2001.

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Now, I, I, I have to go back then and

look to think of what I was thinking of.

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She had a couple movies before

this, where she was sharing the

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lead role with somebody, and I

can't remember what they were.

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Yeah.

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Maybe Cruel Intentions, maybe, you know?

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She's not really the lead, Ryan

Phillippe's kind of the lead, you know?

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It's kind of like one of

the, she had a few of those.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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She had a few of those movies.

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But this was definitely her first leading

lady, I'm carrying this movie by myself.

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Yeah.

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But anyway, how about you?

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Chris: Well, I don't remember the first

time I saw it, but I was going to ask

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you, did you watch it with your daughters?

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Because that's when I, I think that's

how I was introduced to it, because

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my daughters all loved this movie, so.

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Jerome: No, I show my

daughter's jaws and die hard.

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An alien.

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I haven't gotten around to showing,

just kidding, just kidding, folks.

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Before you all call Department of what

is it Children's Services or whatever.

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Chris: No, I didn't watch it, I don't

think I saw it when it, First came out,

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you know, so I probably was probably

a date night with my wife type movie.

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We run it or something But I've seen

it a million times over the years my

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in 2001 I you know, my daughters were

very young and probably didn't at

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least my oldest was yeah She was nine.

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So I doubt she saw it then but in a few

years She would have and that's when I

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I've seen it many times over the years.

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Jerome: Okay, I have it in my side

notes here Yeah, I'll get to it When

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we get to the side notes, but just real

quick since we were talking about it.

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The three films I was referencing,

Fear with Mark Wahlberg,

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Pleasantville with Tobey Maguire,

and Election with Matthew Broderick.

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So she was the female lead in all

three of those, but those were more

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male dominated films, you know?

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She wasn't the main arc.

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of any of the stories.

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Right, right.

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You know what I mean?

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I mean, I guess you could argue

she might have had an arc in fear.

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I don't know.

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I'd have to break that one down.

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but mostly those were

other people's films.

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Yeah.

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This was her first time being

tasked with this you know,

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this was a make or break film.

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If this movie tanks Reese Witherspoon's

only making fears in Pleasant

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vs for the rest of her life.

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Mm.

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You know what I mean?

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So I think we have walked the line.

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Because of this film.

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At least we have Reese Witherspoon

in Walk the Line because of this.

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But anyway, let me get to my specs here.

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2001, based on the novel, the

same name by Amanda Brown.

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Screenplay by Karen

McCullough and Kristen Smith.

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They are a writing team

who work together often.

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Previously, before they did this

film, they did 10 Things I Hate

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About You with Heath Ledger.

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This film was directed by Robert

Lukatik, I think is how you

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pronounce his name, Lukatik.

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It was his first feature

film, interesting to note.

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He did go on to direct some notable

films such as 21 and The Ugly Truth.

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This film was released on July 13th, 2001.

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It finished its box

office run, get this now.

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We're talking about Reese Witherspoon

being asked to carry a film by herself.

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And a comedy!

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Right?

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It finished its run with 96

million dollars at the box office.

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That's just domestic.

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That's not even worldwide.

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Wow.

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Which is about 166 million

in today's numbers.

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And it put it at 20 se the 22nd

highest grossing movie of the year.

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Which sounds low, like on a list.

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It was a good year, I guess.

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It was 22nd.

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Good year, yeah, good year for like

Pixar and Disney and shit like that.

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And, but, But ultimately, I mean,

that's a pretty good haul for a comedy

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being carried by somebody who hadn't

carried a film on their own before.

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Chris: Did you say the budget?

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How much they spent?

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Jerome: I did not.

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I don't know how much it cost to

make, but it couldn't have been a lot.

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Right.

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There, you know, there were no real

Again, Reese wasn't an A lister yet.

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You know what I mean?

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And this movie, I think,

catapulted her star

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stature.

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Chris: Yeah, I'm trying to remember.

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There wasn't any big special

effects like in Liar Liar with

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Jim Carrey on the airport.

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Jerome: Well, yeah.

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But see, Jim Carrey himself

is a special effect, so.

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But we'll get to that.

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There's some trivia on that one when

we get to, when we get to Liar Liar.

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So, okay.

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Alright.

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This is the part where my brother

usually uh, gives me the log line.

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Yeah, I got it right here.

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Let me ask.

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Log me.

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Chris: Well, according to IMDB,

Elle Woods, a fashionable sorority

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queen, is dumped by her boyfriend.

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She decides to follow him to law school.

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While she is there, she figured out that

there is more to her than just looks.

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Jerome: Okay.

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Chris: That's all it tells us.

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Jerome: Fair.

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Fair.

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That's fair.

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Okay.

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Alright.

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Are we ready?

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Yeah.

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Let's go.

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Alright.

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We have the beats.

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Here come the beats.

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Opening image.

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Now, this is a nice, remember we've

talked about this before, where the

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opening and closing image should

be bookends of the same story.

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Yeah.

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And it's just slightly different

at the end because of the

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journey that happens in between.

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Um, Hoku's song, Perfect Day,

is playing at the beginning.

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Yeah.

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While she's getting dressed,

while she's getting ready.

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That'll be important because Perfect

Day is also playing at the end.

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I mean closing image too.

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Same song!

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Also a perfect day, but a lot has

changed so the setup intro to Elle Woods

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sorority super queen It's hinted that

she may fall on the side of like an

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air headed blonde It's only hinted at

that that they do a really good job of

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making sure the audience doesn't think

she's dumb Right, but they also make

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sure So that the audience thinks that

everybody else thinks she's dumb, right?

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And that's a that's a

line you got a dance on.

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Yeah to where why does everyone

think she's dumb if she's not dumb?

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can only imagine it.

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I mean they did a good job

because it'd be a difficult

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Chris: line It'd be easy.

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Let me put it this way it'd be easy to

step too too far into either side of

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that right and where the the audience

is like Either thinks she's just dumb,

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she is dumb, or, so, but the way it

was written and Directed was really

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well done, so.

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Jerome: And that's clever because you

can't, you won't have a story otherwise.

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The whole point is she's following

her boyfriend to Harvard.

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She's not sniffing Harvard.

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If she's stupid, right?

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So, so she is intelligent.

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They do make a point to let people know.

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Particularly in the field

of creativity, right?

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And fashion.

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But she is smart.

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But everybody perceives her to

be like a dumb blonde, right?

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Including her boyfriend!

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Chris: Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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Who actually call, yeah.

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Calls her Jackie.

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We'll, or no?

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We'll, a

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Marilyn.

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Jerome: We'll get a Marilyn,

but we'll get there.

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We'll get there.

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Yeah, that's one of my beats.

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Let's not, let's not jump it

here, let's, let's go in order.

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Chris: I always jump ahead.

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Jerome: All right.

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All right.

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So theme stated at the four minute

mark, A snotty snails sales woman.

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I almost said snails woman,

a snotty saleswoman says.

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And this is a quote.

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There's nothing I like more than a

dumb blonde with daddy's plastic.

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Mm hmm.

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Alright?

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That's the theme Elle Woods is going

to run through the entire film.

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Yep.

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Everybody thinks she's just a

dumb blonde with daddy's plastic.

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It's up to her to prove herself.

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Well, and I love that scene because you

end that scene with her proving herself.

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Right, right.

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Well, that's the, that's the crucial

part of letting the audience know

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that she is intelligent, right?

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Right, right.

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She puts that salesperson in

her place, like, big time.

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And again, although this is Elle's

first chance to let the audience know

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she's not dumb by, by setting that

trap for the saleswoman it is gonna

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serve throughout the film you're gonna

see where, where people sort of I mean

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it's easy to say that they misjudge

her, that's, that's like an easy

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one, but it, it's deeper than that.

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She's got more to prove,

you know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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And it's not just, I'm gonna prove

to you I'm smart by telling you

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that I know the designer of this

dress when you thought I didn't.

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It's gotta go bigger than that.

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And we're gonna go bigger

as the stakes get raised.

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She's gonna prove to them she's more

than a dumb blonde, or won't she?

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That's the pivotal question.

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Will she prove herself or

won't she prove herself?

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Will she, won't she?

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I put here, you're gonna find there's

a strong emotional shift, where one

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scene she's being treated like the dim

witted fashionita, and other scenes she's

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impressing people with her knowledge.

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And they will go almost every other scene.

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Right?

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And we've talked about

that emotional shift.

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That emotional tug of war uh, where it

goes back and forth throughout the film as

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she's driven towards her spiritual goal.

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Now remember what her tangible goal is.

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This is important.

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What's her tangible goal?

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What is it that she wants

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Chris: to get her boyfriend back?

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Jerome: Just to get her boyfriend back?

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Yeah, right.

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Just to get her boyfriend back Warner,

by the way, what a douche guy is.

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A great, Hey, douche with

a great, a douche name.

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Sorry for all of you out

there that are name Warner.

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I, it's not an attack on you.

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Alright, inciting incident, the Catalyst,

after Warner breaks up with Al Now, here's

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another thing, a lot of people would

say that the Catalyst is the breakup.

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I don't think so, because that's

not driving her into Act 2, right?

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She's, she has well, okay.

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It is.

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This is what we call a double bump.

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Remember, we talked

about this on Star Wars.

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Where seeing the hologram of Princess

Leia saying, Help me, Obi Wan

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Kenobi, you're my only hope, isn't

enough to drive Luke into Act 2.

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He's got to go home and see

that Aunt Brew and Uncle Owen,

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Chris: Have been turned into toast.

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Jerome: Bye Boba Fett.

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Hot take.

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Um, But anyway, I bring

that up every time.

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That's sort of like, that's what

Blake Snyder would call a double bump.

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So it, so here's, this

is also a double bump.

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So the breakup is the first part, right?

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The breakup is the first part.

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Warner breaks up with her and he

calls her a Marilyn, not a Jackie.

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Ah, that was a burn.

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That was a stinger right there.

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And then, and then she find, kind

of finds herself in that Bon Bons

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stage, right, where she's just

watching soap operas and stuff.

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And then she go, and her friends

try to cheer her up by taking

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her out for a spa, right?

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A day spa.

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She reads about Miss Vanderbilt.

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And this is the important person that

she's now like, this is who I have

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to be in order to get Warner back.

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:

She probably would have stayed

in depression state for a while.

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Chris: She saw her, and she

realized, oh, she's a law student.

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:

Yes.

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That's what she realized.

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Jerome: Right.

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:

So she sees that, and she's like,

that's what's gonna get him back.

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So it's the double bump.

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It's the breakup, and then that.

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And that forces her

into her break into two.

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So.

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She succeeds in passing the LSAT,

which there's a funny little segment

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there, right, of her trying to the

video that she records of herself.

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:

Yeah.

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And then

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Chris: In a bikini.

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Jerome: She gets her video reviewed

and gets into Harvard Law, and that's

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another funny scene, too, where all the

board members are like Well, alright,

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:

welcome to Harvard, Elle Woods, you

know, because you passed the exam.

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Chris: Bunch of stuffy

white guys in suits.

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Jerome: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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:

Judging her.

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:

Yeah, yeah.

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Judging her, right?

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:

Alright, so it's 19 minutes

into the film, which is a little

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early for a break into two.

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:

Usually those come around

20 25 minutes, half hour.

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But, for an hour and a half

comedy, 19 minutes is right

415

:

in that sweet spot, right?

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:

We're used to watching two hour,

two and a half hour dramas.

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:

Yeah.

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:

Or action films.

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And, and the break into two

would come a half hour in.

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But we're talking about a, a comedy

that's a, an hour and a half long.

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:

Right, right.

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:

gotta get there a little quicker.

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:

So 19 minutes is right in that sweet

spot, as Costanza would say, right

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:

in the meaty part of the curve.

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:

Alright, so.

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:

All right, so now we're in Act 2.

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:

What is Act 2?

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:

The mirror flip of Act 1.

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:

The fun and games begins.

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:

This is stuff you see

in the trailer, right?

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:

This is the premise delivery.

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:

Why we go and see the film.

433

:

It's her at Harvard, right?

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:

And we're bombarded with a bunch of little

things like when she first shows up.

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:

Yeah.

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And everybody just stops and stares.

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:

It's like the record stopping

when somebody walks into a party.

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Yeah, they call her

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Chris: barbie.

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:

What'd they call her,

Malibu Barbie or something?

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:

I can't remember.

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Jerome: Malibu Barbie.

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:

She's now in a new world and

she's got plenty of clashes.

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:

And these are the comedic moments.

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:

Now, there's also, I put literally

three scenes in a row that will

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establish three important characters.

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And they come one right after another.

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Two of which Could be

argued as the B story.

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Now remember, what is the B story?

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The B story, the B story character

is the one that's going to

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sort of help the lead, right?

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:

Kind of give them advice.

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:

Yeah.

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Give them a little bit, when we when we

talk about the second film, the B story's

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altered a little bit in that film, cause

it's more of a Story that has magic in it.

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:

Mm hmm.

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:

We call that person the Confidant

the one that knows kind of knows

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the truth But we'll get that

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Chris: and you've mentioned before

quite often the B story has their

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own arc to the to the character.

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:

Yeah,

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Jerome: absolutely And I believe they

do here, too Go back and watch Die Hard

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if you want to if you want to, oh, oh.

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:

At the time that you're hearing this, the

Die Hard episode was already released.

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:

Yes.

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:

Yes.

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:

At Christmas.

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It was our Christmas special.

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:

But we did talk about how you can

arc supporting characters, too.

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To make your, your story a little bit

more filled with uh, uh, a lot of meat.

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:

Okay, so here's the three characters

that are introduced literally in

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a row in three straight scenes.

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First, the villain.

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Vivian.

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My daughter's name, by the way.

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:

I was a little, when I

saw that, I was like, ugh.

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But it's spelled

differently, so that's okay.

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The villain, Vivian, is introduced

in the class that Elle gets kicked

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out of for being unprepared.

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What does she do when she

gets kicked out of the class?

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She goes outside and immediately meets

Emmett, the future love interest.

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We're gonna call him, B story 1.

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:

And Emmett is played by who?

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It's what's his name, Luke Wilson.

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:

Luke Wilson, yeah.

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Possible love, oh, by the way,

Vivian is played by Selma Blair.

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:

Yes.

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:

Who Reese Witherspoon was

in Cruel Intentions with.

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:

Mm hmm.

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:

But anyway it's possible love

interest and a helper character on

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how to advance her business journey.

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Here's why she's gonna have two B Stories.

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:

Emmett represents helping

her in her business life.

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:

Then at the 32 minute mark, now remember

we jumped into act two at the 19

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:

minute mark, but at the 32 minute mark,

so we've had roughly, what is that?

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13 minutes.

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:

Of fun and games.

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:

We've had 13 minutes of

that mirror flip, right?

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:

Those trailer scenes

as we might call them.

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At the 32 minute mark, which I even

noted here as a known sweet spot for

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the B Story character, usually about

a half hour in, we meet Paulette.

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Paulette is the nail salon girl

who's gonna serve as B Story 2, and

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she will be the helper character on

how to advance her inner strength.

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Chris: Yeah, played by Jennifer Coolidge.

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:

Jerome: Yes, a perfect, a great, I

love her in everything she's in, man.

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:

I love, you know what, one of these

days we should do Best in Show.

507

:

That would be the great,

I love her in that movie.

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:

I love her in everything, but,

but I don't want to get off on a

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:

tangent, but Best in Show is one

of the funniest movies I ever saw.

510

:

Right.

511

:

Alright, so so she's helper

character two, right?

512

:

Jennifer Coolidge plays Paulette.

513

:

Now This is important to

why she has two B stories.

514

:

Again, one is the love interest,

kind of, we don't know that yet.

515

:

But he is serving as the

helper for her business career.

516

:

And Paulette serves as the inner, the,

the, you know, her inner strength.

517

:

Right.

518

:

Another example of push and pull,

the emotional shifts, driving

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:

Elle to her spiritual goal.

520

:

They're back to back scenes.

521

:

First, she's humiliated at the

costume party when she's told it's

522

:

a costume party, and it's not.

523

:

But then she decides to

take Harvard seriously.

524

:

Buckledon eventually proves

people wrong immediately when she

525

:

helps Paulette get her dog back.

526

:

So, there's, the back to back scenes

is she shows up at the party, right?

527

:

Wearing the bunny suit.

528

:

Yeah.

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:

Humiliated.

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:

Chris: I love that in spite

of the humiliation though,

531

:

she just charged forward.

532

:

Jerome: Trucks on.

533

:

She doesn't go home crying, she trucks on.

534

:

And in the very next scene, still, I wanna

say she's still wearing the bunny suit?

535

:

When she's buying all the school

supplies and a new computer

536

:

and everything, a new laptop?

537

:

I don't remember.

538

:

And Emmett, and Emmett is like behind

her in line, and he's like, Hey!

539

:

And then he looks at what she's wearing,

and he's like, Alright, you know?

540

:

So, I thought it was kind of funny, and

almost symbolic of her, of her theme,

541

:

and her emotional shifts, that she

didn't even go home and change first.

542

:

She went to go buy those school

supplies in her bunny outfit.

543

:

Anyway.

544

:

Alright, so, midpoint scene.

545

:

L impresses Professor Callahan enough

to be awarded a place on his legal team

546

:

for an important case he's working on.

547

:

Now, why is this a false victory, right?

548

:

We often say that the midpoint

scene is the false victory, and

549

:

that's usually, usually when you

get your tangible goal, right?

550

:

This is as close as she's gonna get to

her tangible goal because Warner all of

551

:

a sudden is impressed as hell, right?

552

:

I know there's that whole part

at the end, we'll get to that.

553

:

But this is definitely a false

victory because in the second half,

554

:

we know that her involvement with

the case is really gonna test her

555

:

drive to her spiritual goal, and

ultimately what people think of her.

556

:

Mm hmm.

557

:

Right?

558

:

Immediately after the mids at midpoint,

we always go into the, what do we call it?

559

:

The bad guys closing in.

560

:

With the second half of the

film, things start to go to shit.

561

:

Yeah.

562

:

Right?

563

:

It's not going to be all as cracked

up to be when she's on his legal team.

564

:

You could argue that Elle achieves, like

I said, in at least a large part, her

565

:

tangible goal of getting Warner back.

566

:

He's not back, but at this point

he no longer sees her as a Marilyn.

567

:

She's now a Jackie, right?

568

:

So all these are false victories

because we know what's coming next.

569

:

Now, bad guy closing in.

570

:

Elle gets important info

from Brooke Taylor that could

571

:

directly defect the case.

572

:

So that was the big news going into

the second half of the film is that

573

:

she knows the defendant of the girl

that they're, they're gonna try.

574

:

They're gonna try this case.

575

:

And it's a former sorority queen herself

from her sorority and she gets an

576

:

important piece of info of where she was

that day, her alibi, but she gave her, her

577

:

sorority secrecy pledge not to ever tell.

578

:

Right.

579

:

Of course this sets a ripple

off in the legal team, right?

580

:

So now they're kind of pissed, but it

does change villain Vivian's view of her.

581

:

Right.

582

:

So now the villain is starting

to kind of change her.

583

:

Chris: Her story arc is arcing.

584

:

Jerome: Yes, she's arcing at this point.

585

:

She's arcing.

586

:

Chris: Yeah, she admires her

for holding her ground, yeah.

587

:

Jerome: Yes.

588

:

A lot of shit is going on now, and with

the case seemingly hanging by a thread,

589

:

Elle uses her creative instincts to

out the pool boy as gay, which would,

590

:

while he's on the stand mind you, which

would negate him from having an affair

591

:

with the defendant, which is what the

prosecution was trying to claim all along.

592

:

And yeah, in a great scene

there, she wins everyone over.

593

:

Chris: You bitch!

594

:

Jerome: Yeah.

595

:

I put emotional shift is at an

all time high, so you'd think

596

:

that she'd reached her spiritual

goal by being taken seriously.

597

:

Until, the all is lost.

598

:

Impressed with her moves, Professor

Cannelahang proves to be a scumbag.

599

:

Right.

600

:

And makes a pass at her.

601

:

Vivian of course sees this and

confronts her in the elevator

602

:

forcing her to want to quit.

603

:

So right when she was at her high, and

again that's a perfect emotional shift.

604

:

You go from a high like, man

I've cracked this case wide open.

605

:

And now the guy that I trusted and

thought was a great legal mind.

606

:

And respected beyond anything.

607

:

Maybe this is somebody that

can help me get a job someday.

608

:

Wants to bone her, right?

609

:

I mean, what a letdown, right?

610

:

What a huge letdown.

611

:

Chris: He was such a stand

up guy on the Titanic too.

612

:

Jerome: Oh yeah, yeah.

613

:

Shit, wasn't his name uh,

614

:

Chris: I don't remember

his name on Titanic.

615

:

Jerome: Mr.

616

:

Andrews.

617

:

Mr.

618

:

Andrews.

619

:

Mr.

620

:

Andrews.

621

:

Sick how my mind works.

622

:

Alright so, Dark Night of the Soul.

623

:

This always comes right after All is

Lost, and again, the Dark Night of the

624

:

Soul could be two seconds, could be

five seconds, could be five minutes.

625

:

It's usually the debate.

626

:

Of what is the main character going

to do now, and how are they going

627

:

to catapult into the third act.

628

:

Elle's darkened out of the soul,

she's ready to leave, she literally

629

:

goes to Paulette to say goodbye,

when Professor Stromwell overhears

630

:

all this, and talks her out of it,

talks her out of leaving, right?

631

:

Stromwell's the one that kicks her out of

the class in the beginning of the movie.

632

:

Right.

633

:

But while she's there getting her hair

done or whatever, she hears this whole

634

:

story and she's like, No, no, no.

635

:

You can't quit now.

636

:

You can't leave.

637

:

You know what I mean?

638

:

Like, and she gives her this big pep

talk, which is interesting because

639

:

this is where Paulette would come in.

640

:

Hmm.

641

:

Paulette's not the one that

gives her the pep talk, though.

642

:

Professor Stromwell is.

643

:

Yeah.

644

:

And I think that's important because

she had to go to Paulette to see

645

:

Miss, to see Professor Stromwell.

646

:

If she never went to Paulette's

salon to say goodbye, This

647

:

never would have happened.

648

:

Yeah.

649

:

So Paulette still is an anchoring figure.

650

:

She did go there.

651

:

But I think she needed that legal

advice from somebody other than

652

:

Emmett, who at this point is another

guy that could just possibly just

653

:

be trying to get in her pants.

654

:

Chris: So it just occurred to

me, Paulette has a story arc too.

655

:

Jerome: Absolutely.

656

:

Almost all three of the four, if you

want to include Emmett, but they don't

657

:

really focus on Emmett's too much.

658

:

Actually, I wouldn't say

Emmett arcs very well.

659

:

Yeah, so Vivian has one, yeah.

660

:

All three leading women.

661

:

I would say the three leading

women all arc pretty well.

662

:

Yes.

663

:

Okay, break into three.

664

:

Not only does Elle agree to stay and

seek out Brooke to help them Oh, she not

665

:

only agrees to stay, but she seeks out

Brooke to help them with their plans.

666

:

Five point finale, here we are.

667

:

Are you ready?

668

:

Yeah, let's go.

669

:

Number one, gathering the team.

670

:

Brooke fires Callahan and puts Elle

in charge with Emmett backing her up.

671

:

Which, by the way, when I was

first watching this for the first

672

:

time, I yelled out, Can't happen.

673

:

She doesn't have a degree.

674

:

She's not, has never passed the bar.

675

:

But they quickly covered that up.

676

:

They covered that.

677

:

Yeah, they covered that with, oh, it's

temporary and the judge can allow it.

678

:

Chris: There's a Supreme

Court decision allowing it.

679

:

Jerome: And I'm on my

chair and I'm all, Boo!

680

:

Like, that's cheap, don't

give me that bullshit.

681

:

But anyway, I accepted it,

it worked, I was like, okay.

682

:

They had to find a way to get Elle in

charge, but okay, so Elle's in charge now.

683

:

Chris: And she was being over

sought by an attorney, yeah.

684

:

Jerome: Yeah, Emmett was

there to back her up.

685

:

Execution of the plan.

686

:

Elle questions Chutney on the

stand, hoping to catch her in a lie.

687

:

Hightower surprised.

688

:

Chutney shuts down Elle with her strategy

by telling her she was in the shower,

689

:

and it seems almost foolproof, right?

690

:

Her badgering her on the stand

has now hit a brick wall.

691

:

Oh shit, what can I do about this?

692

:

I can't do anything about this.

693

:

Certainly the noise from the shower

would block out any noise of a gunshot,

694

:

and pretty much has given her an alibi.

695

:

So What's the next point of the

bi of the five point finale?

696

:

Dig down.

697

:

Deep.

698

:

L has to think, how can I get outta

this Now I've been hit with a brick

699

:

wall and she comes up with the perm

story, right, and decides to set

700

:

the trap execution of the new plan.

701

:

L gets chutney to confess to

the murder after the perm story

702

:

crashes, her shower alibi, which

leads us of course, to the final.

703

:

Climax.

704

:

Case is dismissed as Chutney is arrested

and Brooke freed, which again, I'm in

705

:

my chair going, that's not how it works.

706

:

Like they don't arrest the

person right then and there.

707

:

I don't think anyway.

708

:

I don't know.

709

:

I mean, if you

710

:

confess to a murder on the stand,

711

:

I mean, why not?

712

:

It was so dramatic in a movie

way though, you know, like

713

:

it was so movie ending wise.

714

:

But yeah, I mean, I guess so, but

it was almost like, and we're gonna

715

:

have one of these in the next movie

too, where he's being dragged out

716

:

of the courtroom, which is one of

my favorite scenes of that movie.

717

:

I'm Jose Quetzalco.

718

:

But anyway, so we kind of have that here

where Chutney's being dragged off and

719

:

I'm like, what is it with these dramatic

court scene endings in these comedies?

720

:

Chris: Drew Carey, Jim Carrey, I mean,

he is just over the top dramatic period.

721

:

End of

722

:

story.

723

:

Jerome: always.

724

:

Yeah.

725

:

So, and, and again, there's a point to

that I'm gonna make in the next movie

726

:

resolution tangible and spiritual goals

collide as Warner proposes to Elle, right?

727

:

That's the part I said earlier about, I

know that thing that happens at the end.

728

:

You would think that that's when

she reached her tangible goal.

729

:

I actually think she

reaches it at the midpoint.

730

:

'cause at that point, Warner's

already respecting her and that's

731

:

kind of the, the point of her journey.

732

:

Yeah.

733

:

But he does propose at the end.

734

:

She shoots him down, of course, and

goes on to graduate Harvard without him.

735

:

Closing image, that song,

Perfect Day, is playing again!

736

:

Only this time, it's, it's she's a

proven, taken seriously law grad.

737

:

A complete 180 from where she was.

738

:

Remember, again, the opening and

closing images only work if you

739

:

take the character at the end.

740

:

And put them at the beginning,

are they a different person?

741

:

Right.

742

:

Absolutely.

743

:

Right?

744

:

Elle at the end of this movie is

100 percent different from how she

745

:

is at the beginning of the movie.

746

:

So I'm gonna do a couple of note,

quick notes here about the arc.

747

:

This is about as clean

as an arc as you can get.

748

:

Right?

749

:

The tangible goal is clear.

750

:

Yeah.

751

:

Right?

752

:

What are some of the things we argue

about in these podcasts is sometimes the

753

:

arc is fuzzy because the goals are fuzzy.

754

:

Mm.

755

:

Like, we don't even know

what the hell they want.

756

:

Like, what is it they want?

757

:

We don't even know what

the hell they need.

758

:

Not in this film.

759

:

The tangible goal is pretty

clear, to get Warner back.

760

:

The spiritual goal, which she did not

know she needed was to earn widespread,

761

:

widespread respect from everyone and

prove she's not just a dumb blonde.

762

:

Right?

763

:

So that's about as clean as

you can get on a character arc.

764

:

And it's a home run all the way through.

765

:

So, some funny moments I

also wanted to mention.

766

:

El's dog growls at Vivian

the first time she meets her.

767

:

I don't know if you noticed that.

768

:

The first time she meets Vivian in

the hallway, the dog growls at her.

769

:

But the next time they see each other

While the dog has no idea that Vivian's

770

:

begun her arc to starting to be a

good, a good person the dog licks her.

771

:

He doesn't growl anymore, he licks her.

772

:

Now how the hell would the dog

know that she's arcing, right?

773

:

Dogs know, they have a way.

774

:

They actually do, but I put a

note in here, what is up with

775

:

the UPS driver and his package?

776

:

That dude is randy, I mean he is

just thirsty for Jennifer Coolidge.

777

:

Every time he comes in, he's got

something to say about his package.

778

:

Yeah, it's over the

779

:

top and

780

:

hilarious.

781

:

Way over the top, way over the top.

782

:

My best LOL moment, sometimes

I have like my package?

783

:

I have to name a part that I

actually laugh out loud in.

784

:

Like, this is a movie I laughed kind of

throughout the film, but there's always

785

:

one scene that makes me burst out, right?

786

:

And it could have been because

I was already having a I was

787

:

already a few drinks in at this

point because it's near the end.

788

:

But it's when Elle's friends

come into the courthouse.

789

:

And they're all, how cute, they have a

judge and everything, oh look, there's

790

:

the jury, like, I mean, I, I don't know,

she calls them jury people, look there's

791

:

the jury people, but when they, she first,

when they first come in and the girl goes,

792

:

oh how cute, they have a judge, I fucking

lost it man, I bursted out laughing.

793

:

How cute they have a judge like like

as if it was just something that

794

:

was made up on TV until this point.

795

:

Yeah All right, so a few more side

notes before I turn it back over to you

796

:

for your thoughts I already mentioned

this before Reese Witherspoon prior to

797

:

this was in movies like fear Election

Pleasantville, but after this movie she

798

:

carried Sweet Home, Alabama Vanity Fair

her Oscar winning role in Walk the Line.

799

:

Yeah, you could argue.

800

:

That was a dual lead But she was the

female lead and won Best Actress.

801

:

And the movie Wild also came out

after this movie, much, much later.

802

:

But also was Oscar nominated

as Best Actress for that.

803

:

I even wrote here, all of which, with

the possible exception of Walk the Line,

804

:

she was the lead tasked with carrying the

film, and all of those films I mentioned

805

:

were successful at the box office.

806

:

Every single one.

807

:

Even Vanity Fair.

808

:

Now, she's, she's had a pretty good run.

809

:

Well, it has had.

810

:

While it had zero Academy Award

nominations, it was nominated for

811

:

Best Picture, Music, or Comedy and

Best Actress for Reese Witherspoon for

812

:

Music or Comedy at the Golden Globes.

813

:

It lost both to Moulin Rouge.

814

:

And I think rightfully so.

815

:

Moulin Rouge is a masterpiece.

816

:

I thought that was a fantastic film.

817

:

So I could see that

winning all those awards.

818

:

There was Oscar buzz surrounding Reese

though, but in:

819

:

Here were the four women that

were up for best actress and lost.

820

:

I'm going to tell you

the ones that first lost.

821

:

Okay.

822

:

Renee Zellweger and Bridget Jones's diary.

823

:

Nicole Kidman and Moulin Rouge, right

off the bat, those first two are

824

:

musical comedy musical or comedies.

825

:

So, you know, when they say it's

the Oscar race, usually only one is

826

:

gonna be a musical or comedy, right?

827

:

Like, the other ones, drama usually

carries the show with the Oscars, right?

828

:

So we're already, two nominations

are being taken up with a

829

:

musical or comedy movie.

830

:

Reese would have to crack

one of the remaining spots.

831

:

Judi Dench and Iris, now we're getting

into dramas and people that win.

832

:

A lot of Oscars, or at least

get nominated for a lot.

833

:

And Sissy Spacek for In the Bedroom.

834

:

Which, by the way, was my

favorite movie of that year.

835

:

So, remember what we was talking about?

836

:

I always have that one favorite that

I love more than everything else?

837

:

Yep.

838

:

In the Bedroom is my

favorite movie of:

839

:

I think it's the best movie of 2001.

840

:

Something we may have

to pick apart sometime.

841

:

Alright, who they lost to.

842

:

Who did those four actresses

that I just named lost to?

843

:

Halle Berry and Monsters Ball.

844

:

Hm.

845

:

Monster powerful performance.

846

:

So no pun intended by

throwing monster in there.

847

:

But so as you can see, tough year, right?

848

:

Very tough year.

849

:

Judi Dench gets nominated

no matter what she does.

850

:

She could take a dump and they would

nominate her for best excretion.

851

:

So, so uh, so that was a, that's

a tough year for Reese to get in.

852

:

But as you, as you well know already,

and I already mentioned it, she ends up

853

:

winning best actress for walk the line.

854

:

She was nominated again for wild.

855

:

You, you could say that Reese

Witherspoon's had one of the better

856

:

a list careers for an actress.

857

:

Chris: She started a book club.

858

:

So there you go.

859

:

Jerome: There you go, and I would

argue that a lot of it comes back

860

:

to this movie now You never want

to say well without this movie We

861

:

don't have any of that because she's

obviously talented enough She she

862

:

would have made those things happen,

but this is definitely a spring who

863

:

is definitely a stepping stone

I mean you take her career and

864

:

look at it none of it would have

happened without Reese Witherspoon.

865

:

Right?

866

:

You know?

867

:

Of course.

868

:

So, give, she deserves

all the credit, man.

869

:

Yes,

870

:

absolutely.

871

:

So.

872

:

So what are your thoughts?

873

:

I only have a couple.

874

:

Fun movie to watch.

875

:

I mean, just pure enjoyment.

876

:

So I didn't really spend a lot of

time analyzing, I just enjoyed it.

877

:

One of my daughters pointed out, I don't

remember who said it, like I said, we had

878

:

a house full of people over, but it was,

they just had an observation of, wow, it's

879

:

the ultimate white privilege where she

just assumes she's gonna get into Harvard.

880

:

Absolutely.

881

:

Chris: Like, why wouldn't I?

882

:

I've been, I've been given

everything my whole life.

883

:

Jerome: She does.

884

:

Chris: I know, she does, yeah.

885

:

She does.

886

:

It's just a funny observation, but.

887

:

Jerome: Yeah, yeah.

888

:

It is totally a white privilege movie.

889

:

There's only one scene

that other people love.

890

:

Because I saw it online.

891

:

I wanted to go check out, like,

see what the buzz is about this.

892

:

And I saw a lot of feedback,

everybody loves this scene, and I

893

:

just, it just didn't work for me.

894

:

It was the bend and snap scene, or

was it called, is that what it was?

895

:

Yeah, she breaks his nose.

896

:

Where she, well no, but, no, no,

no, no, that's the funny part.

897

:

Oh, the dance scene, where they teach

her how to, it was the dance scene where

898

:

she teaches all of them how to do that.

899

:

I didn't get it, it

went right over my head.

900

:

I'm like, I don't even

know what that means.

901

:

Chris: Yeah, to me it was, bend and snap.

902

:

It was kind of a filler scene, you know.

903

:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

904

:

Just they needed to, yeah.

905

:

We have those, you know.

906

:

Jerome: Worst scene in the movie

Stepmom with Julia Roberts.

907

:

Chris: It was fun though.

908

:

It was a fun scene to watch.

909

:

Jerome: Okay, so worst scene

of stepmom, which is the Julia

910

:

Roberts Susan Sarandon movie.

911

:

Yeah is the musical interlude where

they all start singing You know

912

:

mountain high enough or whatever

below and they're all dancing around

913

:

the bed like I don't need that

914

:

Chris: It's kind of weird though,

because that's not really a comedy

915

:

That movie wasn't really a comedy.

916

:

Jerome: Which one, Stepmom?

917

:

Chris: Yeah.

918

:

So it's kind of weird to throw a

musical scene in the middle of it.

919

:

Jerome: Yeah, and I think it started

off as supposed to be comedic, like

920

:

the clash of the stepmom is a complete

polar opposite of the real mom.

921

:

But you're right, it turns

into a drama pretty quick.

922

:

Yeah, yeah.

923

:

And, and,

924

:

Chris: When someone's dying of cancer,

925

:

Jerome: I mean But you know I want

to say in the, in the late 90s, early

926

:

2000s, movies did that shit a lot.

927

:

They do that in Remember the Titans,

where they just have a musical scene

928

:

where all the players start singing.

929

:

Like, I don't need that shit.

930

:

That ain't forwarding the story at all.

931

:

Now, remember the Titans, you could argue,

well, that was how they built unity.

932

:

Eh, you know, when they got into a

fight at camp and all came together

933

:

after that, that was the unity.

934

:

I don't need a song, you know?

935

:

So, so scenes like that

just drive me nuts.

936

:

So when I see this bend and

snap scene or whatever it was,

937

:

Chris: I still think, I mean, for a,

Fun, funny, comedy, I mean it worked.

938

:

Now, don't get me wrong,

the payoff was great.

939

:

When she tries it, on package,

man, Busts his nose open.

940

:

Jerome: Breaks his nose.

941

:

I, when that happened, I remember

thinking, Okay, A, now, now I

942

:

kind of see where the payoff is.

943

:

But two, that totally would have been me.

944

:

That would have been something I would do.

945

:

Where I try to do something

cute and impressive and I

946

:

fucking break someone's nose.

947

:

Um So yeah, all right, anything else?

948

:

Chris: No, let's get down to Liar Liar.

949

:

Jerome: All right, moving right along.

950

:

Chris: First thing, I

better refill my drink here.

951

:

Jerome: I actually, because I've

been doing a lot of talking, see,

952

:

you, that's where I need you,

that's where I need you to pick up

953

:

on more shit so I can drink more.

954

:

All right, Liar Liar.

955

:

All right, here's the specs.

956

:

1997.

957

:

Written by Paul Gouet and Stephen Mazur.

958

:

They're also writing partners,

interestingly enough.

959

:

It's funny you'll find that, right?

960

:

Writing partners in comedies.

961

:

And why do you find that a lot?

962

:

We just saw it in the previous film,

we're gonna see it in this one.

963

:

And of course, one of the famous

writing partnerships of all time

964

:

when it comes to comedies is

Lowell Gantz and Babalu Mandel, who

965

:

wrote a lot of Ron Howard movies.

966

:

Right parenthood, you know what I

mean, like those guys wrote, I, I

967

:

want to say they were in on some of

those early Michael Keaton movies too.

968

:

I'll pause for effect.

969

:

Chris: By the microphone.

970

:

Jerome: Yeah.

971

:

So why do you, why is it

common to see writing partners?

972

:

In a comedy.

973

:

The Farrelly Brothers,

another perfect example.

974

:

To some extent, the Coen Brothers, even

though their films are dark comedy.

975

:

Why does it usually take a writing

team to write really good comedies?

976

:

Because writing comedy is one of

the hardest things anybody can do.

977

:

Because, just because you think it's funny

doesn't mean anybody else will, either.

978

:

So having a writing partner that you

can help bounce ideas off of Yeah.

979

:

Makes it a lot easier.

980

:

So this was also a writing partnership.

981

:

They previously did Little

Rascals in:

982

:

on to do Heartbreakers in 2001.

983

:

Chris: Do you know any trivia surrounding,

like, how much of their writing was

984

:

just Replaced with Jim Carrey's improv.

985

:

Jerome: We're gonna get to that.

986

:

Chris: Cause holy crap, man.

987

:

I mean, even in the outtakes

you can tell there was a lot of

988

:

improv that didn't even make it.

989

:

Jerome: Every Jim Carrey movie.

990

:

But we'll get to that.

991

:

Chris: It's just gold.

992

:

It's pure gold.

993

:

Jerome: It's directed by Tom Shadyac.

994

:

Whose other credits include Ace Ventura,

Pet Detective, in 94, then Nutty

995

:

Professor, 96, and Patch Adams in 98.

996

:

These, among others, he's

done other stuff, but I picked

997

:

these three out specifically.

998

:

Let's assume we put Liar Liar

to the side for a moment.

999

:

Ace Ventura, Jim Carrey.

:

00:41:35,529 --> 00:41:39,579

Nutty Professor, Eddie Murphy,

Patch Adams, Robin Williams.

:

00:41:39,709 --> 00:41:42,679

What are the similarities

between those three people?

:

00:41:42,929 --> 00:41:43,409

Chris: Say it again?

:

00:41:45,319 --> 00:41:47,159

I was, I was looking at IMDB, sorry.

:

00:41:47,169 --> 00:41:48,869

Jerome: Okay, so putting

the liar liar aside.

:

00:41:48,879 --> 00:41:50,829

Not listening to you.

:

00:41:50,829 --> 00:41:52,709

I'm gonna kick you out

of class like Elle Woods.

:

00:41:53,779 --> 00:41:57,829

Ace Ventura, Jim Carrey, Nutty

Professor, Eddie Murphy, and

:

00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:59,489

Patch Adams, Robin Williams.

:

00:41:59,789 --> 00:42:01,009

What are those three?

:

00:42:02,799 --> 00:42:04,329

Those three actors have in common?

:

00:42:04,459 --> 00:42:04,879

I don't know.

:

00:42:05,279 --> 00:42:06,699

Well, what would you characterize them as?

:

00:42:06,729 --> 00:42:08,249

Chris: Well, they're

all stand up comedians.

:

00:42:08,479 --> 00:42:11,499

Jerome: They're all comedians, but

they're all very exhibitionist.

:

00:42:11,499 --> 00:42:13,549

Very showman like comedians, right?

:

00:42:13,549 --> 00:42:16,299

Like, everything's physical

comedy with those three, right?

:

00:42:16,329 --> 00:42:16,579

Yeah.

:

00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:20,009

So why do you think Tom Shadyac keeps

getting hired to do these kinds of movies?

:

00:42:20,099 --> 00:42:20,889

Well, he's good at it.

:

00:42:20,919 --> 00:42:22,829

Because he's got that reputation, right?

:

00:42:22,829 --> 00:42:24,289

These guys all talk to each other.

:

00:42:24,339 --> 00:42:24,659

Yeah.

:

00:42:24,699 --> 00:42:27,259

You know that Jim Carrey,

he did Ace Ventura with him.

:

00:42:27,259 --> 00:42:30,069

And you know he was like, oh,

I want this guy for Liar Liar.

:

00:42:30,089 --> 00:42:30,479

Yeah.

:

00:42:30,529 --> 00:42:32,889

And then, you know that

Eddie Murphy called him up.

:

00:42:33,059 --> 00:42:34,259

Hey, how's this guy?

:

00:42:34,499 --> 00:42:34,999

Get him.

:

00:42:35,439 --> 00:42:35,859

Get him.

:

00:42:35,859 --> 00:42:38,209

He lets you do whatever

the fuck you want, right?

:

00:42:38,209 --> 00:42:41,369

Like, he has great control of

the set, but at the same time,

:

00:42:41,369 --> 00:42:42,639

he lets you off your leash.

:

00:42:43,089 --> 00:42:44,779

Robin Williams, another one.

:

00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:48,029

You know, Tom Shadyax probably just

loves just setting the camera up and

:

00:42:48,029 --> 00:42:49,379

saying, Alright, Robin, do your thing.

:

00:42:49,579 --> 00:42:49,929

You know what I mean?

:

00:42:49,929 --> 00:42:51,029

Like, just go.

:

00:42:51,339 --> 00:42:52,539

I'm not even gonna yell action.

:

00:42:52,539 --> 00:42:55,119

I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna put

it on and you just do your thing.

:

00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,819

Um, So you know, there's a

reason why these guys keep

:

00:42:58,839 --> 00:43:00,439

getting the same jobs, right?

:

00:43:00,439 --> 00:43:01,844

Cause word of mouth in Hollywood.

:

00:43:01,845 --> 00:43:06,864

If Eddie Murphy wants to produce

a 100 million dollar comedy that

:

00:43:06,874 --> 00:43:09,354

he's gonna star in, you bet your

ass he's gonna want a director

:

00:43:09,354 --> 00:43:10,514

that's gonna let him do his thing.

:

00:43:10,594 --> 00:43:10,924

Right.

:

00:43:11,334 --> 00:43:14,894

Alright, so it was

th,:

:

00:43:15,914 --> 00:43:17,534

March, mind you.

:

00:43:17,754 --> 00:43:20,594

Okay, this wasn't a summer

blockbuster, and this wasn't an Oscar,

:

00:43:20,604 --> 00:43:23,104

Hollywood sorry, Oscar winner movie.

:

00:43:23,104 --> 00:43:24,024

This was March 18th.

:

00:43:24,025 --> 00:43:25,794

Chris: It was a St.

:

00:43:25,794 --> 00:43:26,994

Patrick's Day movie.

:

00:43:27,464 --> 00:43:28,434

Jerome: Yeah, it was the day after St.

:

00:43:28,434 --> 00:43:28,864

Patrick's Day.

:

00:43:29,804 --> 00:43:31,954

Had the number one opening weekend.

:

00:43:31,964 --> 00:43:37,584

In fact, it broke the record for the

largest March opening weekend ever.

:

00:43:37,634 --> 00:43:38,124

Chris: Oh, I bet.

:

00:43:38,124 --> 00:43:40,624

Jerome: And it held that

record for five years.

:

00:43:41,474 --> 00:43:42,794

I know you're going to

ask me who broke it.

:

00:43:42,834 --> 00:43:43,104

Chris: Yeah, who broke it?

:

00:43:43,124 --> 00:43:46,179

Jerome: Um, I want to say

I think it was Ice Age.

:

00:43:46,649 --> 00:43:46,999

Chris: Really?

:

00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:48,629

Well, a kid's movie I could see that.

:

00:43:49,049 --> 00:43:54,049

Jerome: It went on to make 181 million

domestically, which is about 347

:

00:43:54,049 --> 00:43:58,759

million in today's dollars, and it

finished as the number three highest

:

00:43:58,759 --> 00:44:04,619

grossing film of 97 behind only

Men in Black 1 and Jurassic Park 2.

:

00:44:04,749 --> 00:44:05,419

Chris: Wow.

:

00:44:05,909 --> 00:44:08,279

Jerome: So, you know, uh

:

00:44:08,279 --> 00:44:08,799

Chris: Not bad.

:

00:44:08,909 --> 00:44:11,459

Jerome: That's pretty damn good,

actually, if you think about it.

:

00:44:11,529 --> 00:44:12,519

Chris: Not too shabby.

:

00:44:12,829 --> 00:44:15,949

Jerome: A side note, a side

note This is a little fun one.

:

00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,789

I really should save this for

the trivia, but I'll do it

:

00:44:18,789 --> 00:44:19,639

now since we talked about it.

:

00:44:19,819 --> 00:44:21,159

March 18th, right?

:

00:44:21,309 --> 00:44:21,929

Friday night.

:

00:44:23,129 --> 00:44:26,949

Sunday night, two days later

on March 20th was the Oscars.

:

00:44:27,269 --> 00:44:29,789

Actually, it might have been Mon back

then I think it was still on Monday night.

:

00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:32,379

They moved it to Sunday,

maybe about ten years ago.

:

00:44:32,439 --> 00:44:33,129

Maybe more than that.

:

00:44:33,129 --> 00:44:35,209

But I think then it was

Monday night, right?

:

00:44:35,459 --> 00:44:37,129

So let's just say March 21st.

:

00:44:37,399 --> 00:44:38,209

Monday night.

:

00:44:38,819 --> 00:44:39,399

Oscars.

:

00:44:39,869 --> 00:44:41,099

Jim Carrey's a presenter.

:

00:44:41,939 --> 00:44:47,139

They present him and they say You know,

here to present the award for whatever

:

00:44:47,139 --> 00:44:52,359

it was, you know And star of Liar Liar,

which opened to the number one, you

:

00:44:52,359 --> 00:44:56,719

know, March opening ever or whatever, Jim

Carrey, and he comes out, and everyone's

:

00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,479

clapping and everything, And the first

thing he says is, How was your weekend?

:

00:45:02,339 --> 00:45:03,339

Mine was good!

:

00:45:04,539 --> 00:45:06,554

And everybody is tearing up!

:

00:45:06,694 --> 00:45:09,794

They even have a shot of Kurt

Russell who's rolling in his seat.

:

00:45:10,344 --> 00:45:10,954

So No kidding.

:

00:45:11,164 --> 00:45:14,044

Everyone, cause everyone knew, like,

dude, that, that's, that's gonna be

:

00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:15,134

one of the biggest movies of the year.

:

00:45:15,334 --> 00:45:15,834

Oh yeah.

:

00:45:15,834 --> 00:45:16,814

On just the first weekend.

:

00:45:16,874 --> 00:45:17,194

Oh yeah.

:

00:45:17,194 --> 00:45:18,554

It had that, it had that impact.

:

00:45:18,984 --> 00:45:19,754

So, anyway.

:

00:45:19,754 --> 00:45:20,464

Mine was good.

:

00:45:21,144 --> 00:45:22,184

Mine was good.

:

00:45:23,204 --> 00:45:24,034

Probably still, yeah.

:

00:45:25,034 --> 00:45:25,254

It's good.

:

00:45:25,254 --> 00:45:26,304

So anyway, alright.

:

00:45:26,344 --> 00:45:26,898

Sir, you're up.

:

00:45:26,898 --> 00:45:27,164

Logline.

:

00:45:27,644 --> 00:45:28,944

Logline.

:

00:45:29,034 --> 00:45:29,984

Logline.

:

00:45:29,994 --> 00:45:31,584

Chris: Go ahead and take

a sip while I'm reading.

:

00:45:34,074 --> 00:45:42,254

Okay, according to IMDb, a pathological

liar, yeah, I almost said lawyer, but

:

00:45:42,274 --> 00:45:47,314

no, it does say like a pathological

liar lawyer finds his career turned

:

00:45:47,324 --> 00:45:54,044

upside down when he inexplicably cannot

physically lie for 24 whole hours.

:

00:45:54,514 --> 00:45:56,524

I love how it says physically lie.

:

00:45:57,374 --> 00:45:58,044

This was a very.

:

00:45:58,129 --> 00:45:59,129

Physical performance.

:

00:45:59,269 --> 00:46:00,099

Jerome: Very, very.

:

00:46:00,139 --> 00:46:03,399

And he even says, he states several

times in the film, I can't even

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00:46:03,409 --> 00:46:05,919

ask a question if I know the

answer is going to be dishonest.

:

00:46:05,959 --> 00:46:06,269

Yeah.

:

00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:07,259

Like, you know what I mean?

:

00:46:07,259 --> 00:46:08,909

Like, it's more than

just I can't tell a lie.

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00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:11,839

And we're going to get into

this in the February episode.

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00:46:11,939 --> 00:46:12,299

Yeah.

:

00:46:12,379 --> 00:46:14,929

I have some problems with

movies that have magic.

:

00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:16,319

They set the rules.

:

00:46:17,219 --> 00:46:18,869

And sometimes those rules are broken.

:

00:46:19,149 --> 00:46:21,629

This film does a really good

job of not breaking the rules.

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00:46:22,109 --> 00:46:23,909

It sets the rules and sticks by them.

:

00:46:24,029 --> 00:46:24,369

Yeah.

:

00:46:24,429 --> 00:46:26,919

But anyway, alright Okay, here we go.

:

00:46:27,319 --> 00:46:28,849

We have The Beats.

:

00:46:28,859 --> 00:46:29,659

The Beats.

:

00:46:30,059 --> 00:46:30,979

Opening image.

:

00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:31,959

Classroom.

:

00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:34,179

Son has a dishonest dad.

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00:46:36,229 --> 00:46:37,069

You'll be ready for the closing image.

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00:46:37,069 --> 00:46:39,989

Chris: That was a great, the first,

that was the opening scene, right?

:

00:46:40,149 --> 00:46:42,169

Jerome: By the way, the

opening scene is priceless.

:

00:46:42,179 --> 00:46:42,499

Yeah.

:

00:46:42,759 --> 00:46:43,219

It's great.

:

00:46:43,219 --> 00:46:46,359

The teacher's, it's, it's, what

does your dad do for a living?

:

00:46:46,379 --> 00:46:47,079

He's a liar.

:

00:46:47,089 --> 00:46:48,809

And he's like, he's a liar.

:

00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,509

And she's like, no, I'm

sure you don't mean that.

:

00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:53,649

He says, well, he goes to the

court and argues with the judge.

:

00:46:53,659 --> 00:46:55,829

She goes, oh, he's a lawyer.

:

00:46:55,969 --> 00:46:58,729

And the look on the kid's face

when he shrugs is kind of like,

:

00:46:59,419 --> 00:47:00,439

what's the fucking difference?

:

00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,944

What's the difference?

:

00:47:01,944 --> 00:47:02,446

Yeah.

:

00:47:02,446 --> 00:47:03,449

It's great.

:

00:47:03,449 --> 00:47:09,049

It's one of the best opening shots,

opening images of a comedy movie.

:

00:47:09,049 --> 00:47:09,760

It totally sets it up.

:

00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,829

Chris: Totally tees it up.

:

00:47:12,589 --> 00:47:13,539

Jerome: Theme stated!

:

00:47:14,129 --> 00:47:19,949

At the six minute mark, after Mom Audrey

tells Fletcher, that's Jim Carrey, Audrey

:

00:47:19,949 --> 00:47:22,489

is played by uh, Oh, what's her name?

:

00:47:22,669 --> 00:47:23,549

You got IMDB there.

:

00:47:23,549 --> 00:47:24,619

Mora, Mora Tierney?

:

00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:25,239

Mora Tierney.

:

00:47:25,879 --> 00:47:27,368

Chris: From uh, what, ER, right?

:

00:47:27,368 --> 00:47:28,625

Jerome: ER, and well, among other things.

:

00:47:28,625 --> 00:47:30,091

She's been in a ton of stuff.

:

00:47:30,091 --> 00:47:32,813

Chris: She's been in a ton of

stuff, but I mean, I was first

:

00:47:32,813 --> 00:47:34,070

introduced to her through ER, I

:

00:47:34,070 --> 00:47:34,279

think.

:

00:47:34,429 --> 00:47:35,349

Jerome: Yeah, yep, yep.

:

00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:38,629

After Mom Audrey tells Fletcher,

played by Jim Carrey, that her

:

00:47:38,629 --> 00:47:42,909

boyfriend Jerry, who's played by

Carrey Carrey Elwes, Carrey Elwes?

:

00:47:42,909 --> 00:47:43,479

Carrey Elwes?

:

00:47:43,529 --> 00:47:44,599

I always mispronounce his name.

:

00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:45,019

Elwes?

:

00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:47,069

From Princess Bride fame.

:

00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:47,649

Yes.

:

00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:50,889

Tells that her boyfriend Jerry

will be moving to Boston.

:

00:47:50,939 --> 00:47:54,029

She says, referring to her

son Max, Max will miss him.

:

00:47:54,539 --> 00:47:57,979

And to that, Fletcher's almost a little

disheveled, and he says, I'll be here.

:

00:47:58,849 --> 00:48:00,169

And she gives him a look.

:

00:48:00,299 --> 00:48:00,609

Right?

:

00:48:00,629 --> 00:48:02,199

Like, kinda like, Will you?

:

00:48:02,779 --> 00:48:03,279

You know what I mean?

:

00:48:03,709 --> 00:48:06,209

Like, she says all that with her

eyes, and then she just walks away.

:

00:48:06,739 --> 00:48:07,649

And he's a little miffed.

:

00:48:07,649 --> 00:48:09,169

He's like, come on Max, it's time to go.

:

00:48:09,179 --> 00:48:10,999

Like, that's gonna be his theme.

:

00:48:11,059 --> 00:48:11,339

Yeah.

:

00:48:11,379 --> 00:48:12,939

Is he really gonna be there for Max?

:

00:48:13,139 --> 00:48:13,449

Right.

:

00:48:13,509 --> 00:48:13,849

Right?

:

00:48:14,139 --> 00:48:19,379

And the emotional shifts of that

attempt proved to be way comical as

:

00:48:19,379 --> 00:48:23,339

the movie goes on because he does

really want to be with his son.

:

00:48:23,429 --> 00:48:23,649

Yeah.

:

00:48:23,689 --> 00:48:24,919

That can't be denied.

:

00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:30,319

But his pathological lying is

what gets in the way of that.

:

00:48:30,779 --> 00:48:32,589

Okay, so, B story.

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00:48:33,089 --> 00:48:37,339

Now, again, this one, kinda fuzzy,

although the B story normally

:

00:48:37,339 --> 00:48:40,239

comes in a half hour in, but we're

introduced to Greta very early.

:

00:48:40,449 --> 00:48:43,809

I named Greta, his

secretary, as the confidant.

:

00:48:43,809 --> 00:48:47,949

Remember, in, in In stories that

have magic, there's a confidant.

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00:48:47,989 --> 00:48:51,419

Somebody that ends up knowing what's

going on and can try to help them.

:

00:48:51,469 --> 00:48:51,759

Right.

:

00:48:51,799 --> 00:48:53,369

To achieve their spiritual goal.

:

00:48:53,399 --> 00:48:55,239

I believe that is the Secretary Greta.

:

00:48:56,249 --> 00:48:57,799

Now, she's introduced relatively early.

:

00:48:58,479 --> 00:49:00,649

But I believe that she is

the B Story, the confidant.

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00:49:00,779 --> 00:49:02,589

Chris: She's normally covering his ass.

:

00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:03,109

Jerome: Right.

:

00:49:03,459 --> 00:49:04,379

Inciting incident.

:

00:49:04,749 --> 00:49:09,359

WrestleMania are dashed when Fletcher

gets a big case dumped on him.

:

00:49:09,819 --> 00:49:12,679

This scene starts with

a barrage of four lies.

:

00:49:12,759 --> 00:49:13,429

This is important.

:

00:49:14,084 --> 00:49:22,214

Four lies, one, the office receptionist

June, by the way, Sherry Oteri

:

00:49:22,224 --> 00:49:23,964

in her first role in a movie.

:

00:49:24,014 --> 00:49:25,054

That was her first role?

:

00:49:25,124 --> 00:49:27,854

Sherry Oteri from SNL,

that's her first movie.

:

00:49:27,864 --> 00:49:28,524

Wow, okay.

:

00:49:28,584 --> 00:49:33,684

This was following two years of SNL,

so she started in SNL in what, 95,

:

00:49:33,694 --> 00:49:35,074

and this was her first movie role.

:

00:49:35,744 --> 00:49:40,914

So the office receptionist June with

her weird hair, two, the overweight guy.

:

00:49:41,784 --> 00:49:42,204

Three.

:

00:49:42,204 --> 00:49:46,404

The guy, he doesn't know his name, , and

four, the guy with the zit on his nose,

:

00:49:46,674 --> 00:49:47,754

So there's our four.

:

00:49:47,754 --> 00:49:49,074

Chris: It's more like a boil

:

00:49:51,114 --> 00:49:55,284

.

Jerome: He's like, I've had so much, I'm ready to pop . He's like, so yeah.

:

00:49:55,284 --> 00:49:57,954

And then what's best is after he

walks away, Jim Carey does that.

:

00:49:57,954 --> 00:49:58,674

He is, yeah.

:

00:49:58,734 --> 00:49:59,514

Is a shutter.

:

00:49:59,814 --> 00:50:00,564

He shutters.

:

00:50:01,974 --> 00:50:02,214

. Yeah.

:

00:50:02,484 --> 00:50:06,024

So four straight lies going

into the inciting incident.

:

00:50:06,024 --> 00:50:06,234

Right.

:

00:50:06,264 --> 00:50:06,594

Okay.

:

00:50:07,204 --> 00:50:08,464

The debate begins.

:

00:50:08,474 --> 00:50:11,284

Fletcher, not realizing that his

behavior is about to cause a major

:

00:50:11,284 --> 00:50:15,724

problem, continues his lying ways to

win over new client Samantha Cole.

:

00:50:16,134 --> 00:50:20,964

Which means if he if he debated at all

about what happened the night before,

:

00:50:21,344 --> 00:50:23,834

he chose not to change his ways, right?

:

00:50:24,244 --> 00:50:25,414

Again, we have a double bump.

:

00:50:25,415 --> 00:50:29,434

It's not just that he got the case dumped

on him and he disappointed his son.

:

00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:30,589

Right?

:

00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:34,079

That wasn't enough, because the next

morning, he acts like everything's fine.

:

00:50:34,089 --> 00:50:36,829

He has the gift that Greta

bought for him, by the way.

:

00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,039

He forgot his own son's fucking birthday.

:

00:50:39,439 --> 00:50:41,079

Greta has to buy the gift.

:

00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,669

You know, he gives the gift, and he

thinks everything's back to normal again.

:

00:50:44,749 --> 00:50:45,119

Right?

:

00:50:45,299 --> 00:50:48,259

He's got the case with Samantha

Cole, and everything's wonderful.

:

00:50:49,149 --> 00:50:52,819

And he goes to drop off

his son with the mom.

:

00:50:53,684 --> 00:50:57,114

Which by the way has another

funny scene where Jerry is all

:

00:50:57,324 --> 00:50:59,444

oh the mitt the baseball mitt.

:

00:50:59,484 --> 00:51:00,974

Oh, that's really cool We'll wrap it.

:

00:51:01,004 --> 00:51:01,474

We'll put it.

:

00:51:01,474 --> 00:51:02,314

We'll rub it with oil.

:

00:51:02,314 --> 00:51:03,464

We'll rub it in a rubber band.

:

00:51:03,464 --> 00:51:09,194

He goes great gift dad and Jim

Carrey goes Thanks, son Jerry is

:

00:51:09,204 --> 00:51:11,666

such a, oh man, I don't even know.

:

00:51:11,666 --> 00:51:12,278

Chris: He's a magoo.

:

00:51:12,278 --> 00:51:13,094

Jerome: He's a magoo, right.

:

00:51:13,094 --> 00:51:14,544

He even says that literally, a magoo.

:

00:51:15,704 --> 00:51:18,944

Anyway So, so, that's not enough.

:

00:51:18,944 --> 00:51:19,864

We need a double bump.

:

00:51:19,864 --> 00:51:20,864

Here comes the double bump.

:

00:51:21,424 --> 00:51:24,064

As the inciting incident wasn't

enough, we have a double bump when

:

00:51:24,064 --> 00:51:26,234

Fletcher misses Max's birthday party.

:

00:51:26,894 --> 00:51:31,854

This is the last straw for Max, who

makes a birthday wish that for just

:

00:51:31,854 --> 00:51:34,854

one day, Fletcher cannot tell a lie.

:

00:51:34,994 --> 00:51:35,254

Yep.

:

00:51:36,164 --> 00:51:37,634

So now we're in act two.

:

00:51:37,674 --> 00:51:39,974

We break into two almost immediately.

:

00:51:40,349 --> 00:51:44,179

Okay, now, I have a little

I love his first truth.

:

00:51:44,249 --> 00:51:45,739

Wait, wait, I have a treat for you.

:

00:51:45,899 --> 00:51:46,669

I have a treat for you.

:

00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:50,809

In my beats breakdown, several

times, let me see how many times.

:

00:51:51,149 --> 00:51:54,679

One, two, three, four, five,

six, seven, eight times!

:

00:51:55,429 --> 00:51:58,669

Eight times I wrote in green bold, shift.

:

00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:03,779

And that is to signify when

being forced to tell the truth.

:

00:52:03,819 --> 00:52:04,169

Yeah.

:

00:52:04,479 --> 00:52:05,689

Was actually a good thing.

:

00:52:06,779 --> 00:52:07,499

Okay, are you ready?

:

00:52:07,549 --> 00:52:08,549

Chris: Yeah, go for it.

:

00:52:08,609 --> 00:52:09,019

Alright.

:

00:52:09,249 --> 00:52:10,029

I can't wait.

:

00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:11,439

Jerome: Break into two.

:

00:52:11,819 --> 00:52:12,739

I've had better.

:

00:52:13,189 --> 00:52:17,779

His first, his first truth,

comes at the worst possible time.

:

00:52:17,789 --> 00:52:19,319

Chris: What'd she say,

was it good for you?

:

00:52:19,629 --> 00:52:19,899

Jerome: Yeah.

:

00:52:19,909 --> 00:52:20,689

Chris: I've had better.

:

00:52:20,729 --> 00:52:21,579

Jerome: I've had better.

:

00:52:22,259 --> 00:52:26,289

Chris: I love that sequence after that

too, because he wakes up the next morning,

:

00:52:26,329 --> 00:52:26,829

I've had better.

:

00:52:27,035 --> 00:52:29,767

Jerome: Yeah, but then when he's

brushing his teeth, he's laughing.

:

00:52:29,767 --> 00:52:31,133

He's laughing, I've had better.

:

00:52:31,133 --> 00:52:33,045

I've had better, like, what the fuck?

:

00:52:33,045 --> 00:52:36,224

And then when he's standing outside

the elevator, he laughs at him again!

:

00:52:37,114 --> 00:52:38,044

So anyway, Yeah,

:

00:52:38,044 --> 00:52:39,494

Chris: that one kept giving, man.

:

00:52:39,794 --> 00:52:43,844

Jerome: So before you say, well wait

a minute, every one of his forcing to

:

00:52:43,854 --> 00:52:47,254

tell the truth is a good thing, it's

not necessarily, because he gets into

:

00:52:47,254 --> 00:52:50,044

the elevator with the girl with the big

boobs, that doesn't turn out very well

:

00:52:50,044 --> 00:52:51,224

for him when he has to tell the truth.

:

00:52:52,084 --> 00:52:54,444

Chris: It made for a good outtake

though, at the end of the movie.

:

00:52:54,609 --> 00:52:55,489

Jerome: We're jumping ahead here.

:

00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:56,799

So I've had better.

:

00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:00,389

The wish which immediately comes

true catapults Fletcher into Act 2.

:

00:53:00,409 --> 00:53:03,479

We're now in the upside down

mirror flip version of Act 1

:

00:53:03,779 --> 00:53:05,689

where he's unable to tell a lie.

:

00:53:06,969 --> 00:53:08,869

Oh, he was able to tell

a lie whenever he needed.

:

00:53:08,869 --> 00:53:09,819

Now he has to tell the truth.

:

00:53:10,099 --> 00:53:10,839

Fun and games.

:

00:53:10,849 --> 00:53:12,429

These are your trailer scenes, right?

:

00:53:12,899 --> 00:53:13,759

Premise delivery.

:

00:53:13,759 --> 00:53:14,809

Why we go to see the movie.

:

00:53:14,829 --> 00:53:15,079

Yep.

:

00:53:15,649 --> 00:53:19,529

Trailer scenes and the promise of the

premise taking act two out for a spin

:

00:53:19,769 --> 00:53:24,049

He tells the truth to a girl about

the big boobs in the elevator a bum

:

00:53:24,049 --> 00:53:30,059

who wants his money And we revisit

the four lies from just a day earlier.

:

00:53:30,099 --> 00:53:32,819

Chris: Yes, right immediate payoff,

:

00:53:32,969 --> 00:53:35,894

Jerome: right He tells the

truth to Sherry O'Terry.

:

00:53:36,184 --> 00:53:37,754

Whatever it takes to focus off your head!

:

00:53:38,774 --> 00:53:39,724

Overweight man!

:

00:53:39,725 --> 00:53:41,764

Uh, What's he say?

:

00:53:41,764 --> 00:53:42,824

What's up, Fletcher?

:

00:53:43,224 --> 00:53:44,764

Just your cholesterol, fatty!

:

00:53:48,014 --> 00:53:49,504

The guy, he doesn't know his name.

:

00:53:49,734 --> 00:53:51,544

You're not important

enough for me to remember!

:

00:53:52,054 --> 00:53:53,154

And then of course, Zitman.

:

00:53:53,344 --> 00:53:55,504

Now, these are all shifts.

:

00:53:55,584 --> 00:53:57,574

I actually put, so actually

it's more than eight.

:

00:53:57,759 --> 00:53:59,429

If you, it's eight plus three more.

:

00:54:00,259 --> 00:54:03,289

Here's why I put these

as possible green shifts.

:

00:54:04,009 --> 00:54:07,249

Although the truth hurts and he's

mean to all four of these people,

:

00:54:09,289 --> 00:54:13,169

it's better to let people know

where you stand with them, right?

:

00:54:13,429 --> 00:54:15,739

In a way, the fat guy needed to hear that.

:

00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:18,209

You know, maybe he goes home

and gets on a treadmill.

:

00:54:18,209 --> 00:54:18,899

Who knows?

:

00:54:19,649 --> 00:54:21,879

Sure, it's a brutal way to tell

somebody they're overweight.

:

00:54:22,099 --> 00:54:23,799

He doesn't, it's not like he doesn't know.

:

00:54:24,484 --> 00:54:27,734

But maybe he's like, oh shit, if all

my co workers think that way, maybe I

:

00:54:27,734 --> 00:54:29,074

should do something about it, right?

:

00:54:29,724 --> 00:54:33,434

Sherry Oteri, maybe she fixes her hair

after that, who knows, I don't know.

:

00:54:33,784 --> 00:54:38,634

You know, I put those as positive

shifts because I think it's

:

00:54:38,634 --> 00:54:41,344

important not to lie to people.

:

00:54:42,539 --> 00:54:45,279

You know, the common one

that you get a lot is the guy

:

00:54:45,279 --> 00:54:46,279

that you don't know his name.

:

00:54:46,629 --> 00:54:49,380

How many times have you bumped into

the same person over and over and over?

:

00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:50,729

Chris: Hey, man.

:

00:54:50,779 --> 00:54:53,699

Jerome: They told you

their name four years ago.

:

00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:57,819

But fuck, man, you don't remember

it and you can't ask now.

:

00:54:58,249 --> 00:54:59,229

Now you can't ask.

:

00:54:59,529 --> 00:54:59,949

Right.

:

00:55:00,219 --> 00:55:00,539

Right?

:

00:55:00,729 --> 00:55:03,739

So it's like, how many times have

we been through that, you know?

:

00:55:03,789 --> 00:55:04,129

Yeah.

:

00:55:04,169 --> 00:55:08,679

When if you just, I mean, I had one of

those, I know we go off on tangents.

:

00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:11,369

I'm trying to keep this down

to a minimum amount of time.

:

00:55:11,579 --> 00:55:11,889

But.

:

00:55:12,984 --> 00:55:14,154

My girls are still in school.

:

00:55:14,244 --> 00:55:14,494

Yeah.

:

00:55:14,534 --> 00:55:15,194

Vivi and Val.

:

00:55:15,304 --> 00:55:16,924

And a lot of times I see their parents.

:

00:55:17,304 --> 00:55:20,324

And I meet their parents, and

I see them over and over again.

:

00:55:20,324 --> 00:55:22,944

Chris: Well, you're their parents,

you mean the school parents.

:

00:55:23,094 --> 00:55:25,574

Jerome: I mean, I mean the kids, yeah,

the kids that are in their class.

:

00:55:25,574 --> 00:55:26,284

Chris: Yeah, I know what you meant.

:

00:55:26,304 --> 00:55:26,514

Jerome: Right?

:

00:55:26,834 --> 00:55:27,344

Okay, thank you.

:

00:55:27,844 --> 00:55:28,824

I skipped a step.

:

00:55:28,984 --> 00:55:30,324

This shark a rita is really kicking in.

:

00:55:30,844 --> 00:55:34,134

Um, So The other kids parents,

I meet them all the time.

:

00:55:34,134 --> 00:55:36,104

We go to pick them up

at the same time, right?

:

00:55:36,314 --> 00:55:39,324

Some of them shop in my

store, and I'll see them.

:

00:55:39,394 --> 00:55:40,684

And it's so much like that!

:

00:55:40,934 --> 00:55:49,314

Hey, you And then, one girl, I actually

had to ask, no, I had to ask her,

:

00:55:49,324 --> 00:55:53,184

one of them, because Valerie and this

girl had become really good friends,

:

00:55:53,184 --> 00:55:54,564

and they want playdates and shit.

:

00:55:54,784 --> 00:55:57,674

So this girl comes into my store a lot

because she works right by my store.

:

00:55:57,904 --> 00:56:02,064

So I just had to ask her, I said, I had to

say, I go, What is your name, by the way?

:

00:56:02,134 --> 00:56:03,024

I don't think I've ever heard it.

:

00:56:03,024 --> 00:56:05,204

She said, Oh, it's Bree, and

I was like, Okay, I'm Jerome.

:

00:56:05,205 --> 00:56:08,754

So I nailed that one quick,

because I knew I saw it.

:

00:56:08,755 --> 00:56:10,524

I saw, I foresaw what was gonna happen.

:

00:56:10,864 --> 00:56:14,904

That I would know this person for three

years and never know her fucking name.

:

00:56:15,394 --> 00:56:20,574

So, so, So again, I, that's why I

wrote them all as green shifts because

:

00:56:20,574 --> 00:56:21,834

it is important to get the truth out.

:

00:56:21,874 --> 00:56:24,364

Chris: But yeah, Jim carrey's

response, you're not important

:

00:56:24,364 --> 00:56:25,434

enough to remember.

:

00:56:25,474 --> 00:56:25,504

Jerome: Right?

:

00:56:26,344 --> 00:56:26,874

Yeah, okay.

:

00:56:27,034 --> 00:56:30,434

So maybe I never would have I just

said that to somebody, a parent, right?

:

00:56:30,534 --> 00:56:33,084

A kid's parent, from my kid's classroom.

:

00:56:33,814 --> 00:56:38,664

Um, alright, so, now, oh wait, by the

way, after he gives all four of those

:

00:56:38,664 --> 00:56:43,764

truths, Greta, Greta says Fletcher,

and he goes, God's sakes, don't ask!

:

00:56:46,674 --> 00:56:49,374

Don't ask for, God's sakes, don't

ask, and he goes into his office.

:

00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:53,999

Chris: What a great

premise for a movie, man.

:

00:56:54,029 --> 00:56:54,319

Jerome: Oh, dude!

:

00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,779

And it nails it.

:

00:56:57,019 --> 00:57:00,409

So, we also have Fletcher's first

day in court representing Mrs.

:

00:57:00,409 --> 00:57:00,859

Cole.

:

00:57:01,269 --> 00:57:03,089

Intro to The Judge, right?

:

00:57:03,189 --> 00:57:05,289

Played by uh, Justin Bernard.

:

00:57:06,514 --> 00:57:09,824

And we have the famous test of

willpower with the blue pen,

:

00:57:09,834 --> 00:57:11,364

that's, that's after that test.

:

00:57:11,854 --> 00:57:15,484

He also tells a cop that pulls him

over about the parking tickets,

:

00:57:15,624 --> 00:57:16,904

I put that as a green shift.

:

00:57:17,364 --> 00:57:19,664

Gotta get that off your back,

man, that's something that's

:

00:57:19,914 --> 00:57:20,964

been sitting with him, right?

:

00:57:20,994 --> 00:57:22,944

Chris: After he's dealt

with it, he's free.

:

00:57:23,184 --> 00:57:24,094

Jerome: Right, right.

:

00:57:24,104 --> 00:57:25,424

It's a freeing experience.

:

00:57:25,424 --> 00:57:30,154

So that's one that you would lie about,

but it, telling the truth is helpful.

:

00:57:30,374 --> 00:57:30,794

Okay?

:

00:57:31,304 --> 00:57:33,004

Audrey helps him get his car out of hock.

:

00:57:33,014 --> 00:57:36,614

He tells the he tells off the parking

garage guy, which is pretty funny.

:

00:57:36,824 --> 00:57:38,664

Because he's like, you scratched my car!

:

00:57:38,904 --> 00:57:40,624

And the guy's like, that was there.

:

00:57:40,664 --> 00:57:42,884

And he's all, you liar!

:

00:57:43,494 --> 00:57:45,934

It's like him calling

somebody else a liar.

:

00:57:46,144 --> 00:57:47,574

Like, how great is that, right?

:

00:57:48,514 --> 00:57:51,474

Chris: I love his explanation

for what he's gonna do about it.

:

00:57:51,504 --> 00:57:52,684

Jerome: Yeah, what are

you gonna do about it?

:

00:57:53,204 --> 00:57:54,554

He's all, nothing!

:

00:57:56,214 --> 00:57:58,714

Because I'll just go to the small claims

court, you'll just stick me in the

:

00:57:58,714 --> 00:58:00,034

end anyway, and blah blah blah blah.

:

00:58:00,035 --> 00:58:01,694

Chris: Yeah, take it up the tailpipe!

:

00:58:01,694 --> 00:58:03,624

Jerome: Yeah, take it up the tailpipe!

:

00:58:03,864 --> 00:58:05,644

And the guy goes, you've been

here before, haven't you?

:

00:58:06,824 --> 00:58:06,994

Right.

:

00:58:09,734 --> 00:58:10,794

So many great lines.

:

00:58:11,134 --> 00:58:12,824

I feel this is unfair to Legally Blonde.

:

00:58:12,824 --> 00:58:15,514

We didn't laugh this much while

we talked about Legally Blonde.

:

00:58:15,914 --> 00:58:18,194

But when you're dealing

with a Jim Carrey movie, man

:

00:58:18,234 --> 00:58:19,864

Chris: I'll put my cards

on the table right now.

:

00:58:19,904 --> 00:58:21,214

It's a funnier movie.

:

00:58:21,304 --> 00:58:22,624

I think it's a funnier movie.

:

00:58:22,644 --> 00:58:23,104

Jerome: Which one?

:

00:58:23,554 --> 00:58:24,344

Chris: Liar, liar.

:

00:58:24,424 --> 00:58:25,107

Jerome: Oh, absolutely.

:

00:58:25,107 --> 00:58:25,548

Absolutely.

:

00:58:25,548 --> 00:58:29,244

Chris: But, I mean, I don't want

to take away from, I mean, I think

:

00:58:29,254 --> 00:58:32,364

Legally Blonde is a great movie,

but this is a funnier movie.

:

00:58:32,374 --> 00:58:37,034

Jerome: But, I mean, again, and again,

we're only at, we're only approaching

:

00:58:37,034 --> 00:58:41,414

the midpoint scene, but remember what I

talked about, Legally Blonde was the 22nd.

:

00:58:42,084 --> 00:58:44,744

Highest grossing film

domestically of that year.

:

00:58:44,794 --> 00:58:46,114

Yeah, this was number three.

:

00:58:46,144 --> 00:58:49,524

Yeah, like there's a reason right

Jim Carrey Yeah, well, it's just

:

00:58:49,524 --> 00:58:53,044

on a different level and the

movie is just a ten times funnier

:

00:58:53,054 --> 00:58:56,564

Chris: Well, that's what I mean because

jim Carrey's leading and probably

:

00:58:56,564 --> 00:59:01,454

writing half the stuff in it in the

final product Yeah, I mean crap.

:

00:59:01,455 --> 00:59:05,234

Jerome: Yeah Okay, so we

get to the midpoint scene.

:

00:59:05,234 --> 00:59:09,014

I actually wrote this quote

as the midpoint scene.

:

00:59:09,014 --> 00:59:14,934

I'm a bad father Hmm

So, why is that a shift?

:

00:59:15,344 --> 00:59:16,424

Because he stops, right?

:

00:59:16,434 --> 00:59:17,964

Right after he says that, he realizes

:

00:59:18,769 --> 00:59:19,699

Chris: I'm a bad father.

:

00:59:19,769 --> 00:59:20,669

Jerome: I'm a bad father.

:

00:59:20,719 --> 00:59:23,589

Yeah, like he realizes he

just told the truth, right?

:

00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:23,879

Right.

:

00:59:24,629 --> 00:59:25,709

Chris: So yeah, it was powerful.

:

00:59:25,909 --> 00:59:26,419

It was good

:

00:59:26,759 --> 00:59:30,569

Jerome: Now there's a two scene false

victory here Fletcher finally finds out

:

00:59:30,569 --> 00:59:34,339

what the curse is and he finds out it's

his son's birthday wish Right, right.

:

00:59:34,359 --> 00:59:36,939

So that's your that's sort

of a tangible goal, right?

:

00:59:36,939 --> 00:59:37,849

Because the beginning

:

00:59:37,859 --> 00:59:39,749

Chris: yeah figure out

how to fix this, right?

:

00:59:39,769 --> 00:59:40,419

Jerome: Well, yeah.

:

00:59:40,449 --> 00:59:42,759

Well, the first thing is why

is this happening, right?

:

00:59:42,769 --> 00:59:46,874

Like his tangible goal would be What the

hell is happening and how do I fix it?

:

00:59:47,084 --> 00:59:48,454

At that point he achieves that.

:

00:59:48,484 --> 00:59:50,264

Oh my god, my son made a birthday wish.

:

00:59:50,504 --> 00:59:52,014

Well, I'll just have to fix that, right?

:

00:59:53,114 --> 00:59:55,714

So he feels it's a victory

because now he knows what it

:

00:59:55,714 --> 00:59:56,794

is and how it can be stopped.

:

00:59:57,034 --> 01:00:00,344

But the twin scene is where

he goes to Max's school and

:

01:00:00,344 --> 01:00:01,904

tries to get him to un wish it.

:

01:00:02,294 --> 01:00:05,294

Which is what Blake Snyder

would call a wrong way goal.

:

01:00:05,504 --> 01:00:07,854

So you get this a lot in these

movies with magic, right?

:

01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:11,909

Again, I don't want to tease too much

about the February episode, but I just

:

01:00:11,909 --> 01:00:15,299

watched that movie and I was thinking

about wrong way goals the entire time.

:

01:00:15,499 --> 01:00:18,919

But anyway it's the wrong

way to try to fix a problem.

:

01:00:19,989 --> 01:00:21,529

That's what the wrong way goal is.

:

01:00:21,779 --> 01:00:23,319

He tries to get his son to unwish it.

:

01:00:23,669 --> 01:00:24,199

And he won't.

:

01:00:24,489 --> 01:00:27,369

And not only does he Oh,

by the way, it's immediate.

:

01:00:27,549 --> 01:00:29,959

Bad guy's closing in right

after the midpoint scene.

:

01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:30,309

Right.

:

01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:34,969

Because the Unwish fails miserably

and immediately because not only does

:

01:00:34,969 --> 01:00:39,299

he get slapped by a what I'm assuming

is a teacher on the playground.

:

01:00:39,789 --> 01:00:41,279

He, he says, let me try this out.

:

01:00:41,279 --> 01:00:43,019

And he goes up and says

something, obviously he says

:

01:00:43,019 --> 01:00:44,499

something very derogatory.

:

01:00:44,529 --> 01:00:44,719

Yeah.

:

01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:45,289

Just slaps him.

:

01:00:45,299 --> 01:00:47,379

Chris: It was either a teacher

or probably like a mom that

:

01:00:47,379 --> 01:00:48,399

was volunteering or something.

:

01:00:48,409 --> 01:00:50,039

Jerome: Yeah, like a

volunteer mom or something.

:

01:00:50,614 --> 01:00:56,564

But he's slapped even harder by

Max when Max tells him you're the

:

01:00:56,784 --> 01:00:58,054

only one that makes me feel bad.

:

01:00:58,774 --> 01:00:59,074

Right?

:

01:00:59,094 --> 01:01:03,894

Like that's the same as the

I'm a bad father moment, right?

:

01:01:04,194 --> 01:01:06,974

And the moment at the beginning

when Audrey says Max don't miss

:

01:01:07,004 --> 01:01:08,274

him and he says I'll be here.

:

01:01:08,484 --> 01:01:11,934

Like these are moments where

he's realizing like, fuck I'm

:

01:01:11,934 --> 01:01:13,439

really letting my son down.

:

01:01:13,669 --> 01:01:13,849

Yeah.

:

01:01:13,849 --> 01:01:14,279

You know?

:

01:01:14,889 --> 01:01:16,139

So that's bad guys closing in.

:

01:01:16,179 --> 01:01:17,499

We have a few more to add.

:

01:01:17,809 --> 01:01:19,919

Things continue to spiral badly.

:

01:01:20,089 --> 01:01:25,129

We get back to the office and he

confides in confidant Greta his secret.

:

01:01:26,339 --> 01:01:30,569

She tests him on his lies and he tells

her the truth so she quits, right?

:

01:01:30,839 --> 01:01:32,009

Another great segment.

:

01:01:32,169 --> 01:01:35,659

Now, I know you're thinking, how can

she be the confidant if she quits?

:

01:01:35,659 --> 01:01:36,879

Well, you know where it's

going to end up, right?

:

01:01:37,609 --> 01:01:41,149

So, she quits and then there's

the boardroom scene where

:

01:01:41,149 --> 01:01:44,609

Miranda tries to ambush him and

he uses it to his advantage.

:

01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:46,109

Green shift, right?

:

01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:48,009

Telling the truth is a good thing.

:

01:01:49,319 --> 01:01:49,999

Chris: Makes Mr.

:

01:01:49,999 --> 01:01:52,149

Allen laugh, instead of getting fired.

:

01:01:52,219 --> 01:01:55,509

Jerome: Right, instead of getting

fired, he's tearing up the room.

:

01:01:55,689 --> 01:01:58,969

One of my favorite moments of

that entire scene, by the way.

:

01:01:59,019 --> 01:02:02,339

And by the way, I laugh

out loud in that scene.

:

01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:06,339

Every fucking time I

watch it, without fail.

:

01:02:06,369 --> 01:02:08,719

It doesn't matter how many times I've

seen it, I laugh out loud every time.

:

01:02:08,959 --> 01:02:12,809

And one of the best parts is where

there's a moment of silence, like they

:

01:02:12,809 --> 01:02:14,189

don't know how the boss is gonna take it.

:

01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:14,609

Right.

:

01:02:15,038 --> 01:02:17,399

And the boss starts laughing,

and the first thing the boss says

:

01:02:17,399 --> 01:02:18,944

when he laughs is, Do Simmons.

:

01:02:18,945 --> 01:02:21,384

And he looks at Simmons and

he goes, Simmons is old.

:

01:02:21,385 --> 01:02:24,374

It's like, like, that's his first insult.

:

01:02:24,374 --> 01:02:26,364

That's his first insult.

:

01:02:26,624 --> 01:02:27,894

Simmons is old.

:

01:02:29,594 --> 01:02:31,704

He should have been out of the game

years ago, but he doesn't want to stay

:

01:02:31,704 --> 01:02:32,944

at home because he can't stand his wife.

:

01:02:34,724 --> 01:02:37,480

And then he goes around the room,

and here's another dream truth.

:

01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,484

Chris: And then the climax of that

scene is when he points at the

:

01:02:39,484 --> 01:02:40,544

woman that brought him in there.

:

01:02:40,544 --> 01:02:40,944

Jerome: And says, Slut!

:

01:02:41,804 --> 01:02:42,094

Right.

:

01:02:42,504 --> 01:02:43,114

Exactly.

:

01:02:43,794 --> 01:02:45,024

He's telling the truth.

:

01:02:45,054 --> 01:02:45,824

Isn't that ironic?

:

01:02:46,014 --> 01:02:47,064

He's telling the truth.

:

01:02:47,684 --> 01:02:49,804

He points to her and says slut.

:

01:02:49,814 --> 01:02:51,384

It's not just an insult folks.

:

01:02:51,804 --> 01:02:57,604

He's telling the truth all right, so

courtroom scene he needs a continuance,

:

01:02:57,604 --> 01:03:01,404

but he can't get one He tells the truth

about needing to use the bathroom, right?

:

01:03:01,764 --> 01:03:05,044

And that's, that's a green shift,

because it helps him get a continuance,

:

01:03:05,074 --> 01:03:06,024

at least a little bit of one.

:

01:03:06,024 --> 01:03:08,074

He gets to go to the bathroom,

because he tells the judge, right,

:

01:03:08,104 --> 01:03:11,524

I hear holding your urine can help

cause disease cancer or something.

:

01:03:11,524 --> 01:03:12,634

And the guy's like, is that true?

:

01:03:12,874 --> 01:03:14,464

Well, in that case, we better cause it.

:

01:03:14,464 --> 01:03:17,564

Chris: It was, what got his attention

was, was something about affecting,

:

01:03:17,644 --> 01:03:19,724

like, sexual performance or something.

:

01:03:19,724 --> 01:03:21,084

He's like, well, I

better take a break then.

:

01:03:21,094 --> 01:03:22,163

Jerome: Yeah, let's take a break then.

:

01:03:22,424 --> 01:03:24,913

Right, so, so, the green shift, it worked.

:

01:03:24,913 --> 01:03:25,864

Telling the truth worked.

:

01:03:26,554 --> 01:03:27,064

But, it causes the

:

01:03:27,064 --> 01:03:27,604

Chris: Is it true?

:

01:03:27,684 --> 01:03:28,404

It must be.

:

01:03:29,094 --> 01:03:31,404

Jerome: It causes his bath

Right, that's another great one.

:

01:03:31,834 --> 01:03:32,514

Is that true?

:

01:03:32,534 --> 01:03:33,264

It must be!

:

01:03:33,454 --> 01:03:37,054

Right, so, but that directly

causes his bathroom beat up scene,

:

01:03:37,054 --> 01:03:38,694

which is another wrong way goal.

:

01:03:39,124 --> 01:03:42,154

It's, it's, it's the wrong way

to try to solve your problem.

:

01:03:42,154 --> 01:03:43,744

Chris: What the hell are you doing?

:

01:03:43,934 --> 01:03:45,884

Jerome: I'm kicking my ass!

:

01:03:47,424 --> 01:03:47,724

All right.

:

01:03:48,254 --> 01:03:52,124

More bad guys closing in as he

truthfully tells the judge that he can

:

01:03:52,214 --> 01:03:54,504

go on despite his bathroom injuries.

:

01:03:55,014 --> 01:03:56,084

And he meets Mr.

:

01:03:56,084 --> 01:04:00,034

Falk on the front steps and realizes

he can't even ask dishonest questions.

:

01:04:00,874 --> 01:04:06,244

Perhaps the biggest example of the

green shift is where, when we're

:

01:04:06,244 --> 01:04:07,464

telling the truth is helpful.

:

01:04:07,604 --> 01:04:13,694

He wins Samantha's case by uh,

getting her to admit that she lied.

:

01:04:14,038 --> 01:04:15,109

Which is ironic, by the way.

:

01:04:15,409 --> 01:04:19,729

Lied on her driver's license in order

to get married, thus nullifying the

:

01:04:19,729 --> 01:04:21,509

prenup and awarding her the money.

:

01:04:21,689 --> 01:04:22,199

Right?

:

01:04:22,749 --> 01:04:24,739

That's all the bad guys closing in.

:

01:04:25,009 --> 01:04:28,169

I know it seems like a victory at

the end, but it's really not, because

:

01:04:28,339 --> 01:04:30,559

immediately after that is the all is lost.

:

01:04:30,829 --> 01:04:32,279

Chris: Right, he realizes how

:

01:04:32,299 --> 01:04:33,699

Jerome: Right after winning the case.

:

01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:34,909

Chris: Doomed he is, yeah.

:

01:04:34,909 --> 01:04:36,749

Jerome: Yeah, he hits

rock bottom when Mrs.

:

01:04:36,749 --> 01:04:38,569

Cole now wants full custody.

:

01:04:39,009 --> 01:04:41,979

He even said, But you

said he was a good father.

:

01:04:42,059 --> 01:04:44,399

Chris: Actually, I would

argue he hit rock bottom.

:

01:04:45,234 --> 01:04:47,264

When his boss shook his hand.

:

01:04:47,794 --> 01:04:48,634

Jerome: Oh wait, we're not there yet.

:

01:04:49,304 --> 01:04:51,068

This is all the same scene.

:

01:04:51,068 --> 01:04:53,344

Yeah, it's all the same scene.

:

01:04:53,724 --> 01:04:59,004

But, but, but, what's important

is she goes, he says, you

:

01:04:59,004 --> 01:05:00,214

said he was a good father.

:

01:05:00,274 --> 01:05:00,574

Right?

:

01:05:00,594 --> 01:05:01,934

About the Mr.

:

01:05:01,934 --> 01:05:02,234

Cole.

:

01:05:02,654 --> 01:05:04,714

And she goes, who cares, I'm

gonna hit him where it hurts.

:

01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:08,509

If we get full custody, I get

an extra, what was it, $4,

:

01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:09,669

000, $10, 000 a month in pay.

:

01:05:09,759 --> 01:05:12,299

And he goes, you just won $11, 000, 000!

:

01:05:12,299 --> 01:05:12,569

Right.

:

01:05:13,089 --> 01:05:13,538

But anyway.

:

01:05:13,639 --> 01:05:13,829

Yep.

:

01:05:13,889 --> 01:05:15,849

Okay, so in that same scene, yes.

:

01:05:16,189 --> 01:05:21,209

He realizes that the lust for winning

the case tore kids from their father.

:

01:05:21,369 --> 01:05:21,499

Yeah.

:

01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:22,889

A good father, right?

:

01:05:23,509 --> 01:05:24,349

Which he is not.

:

01:05:25,279 --> 01:05:27,859

Actually, I actually have what

you're talking about, the handshake.

:

01:05:27,879 --> 01:05:29,249

I put that as the dark night of the soul.

:

01:05:29,249 --> 01:05:30,269

It's the debate part.

:

01:05:30,509 --> 01:05:30,739

Yeah.

:

01:05:30,749 --> 01:05:33,779

Because he realizes he fucked

up, he's at rock bottom.

:

01:05:34,009 --> 01:05:34,379

Right?

:

01:05:34,659 --> 01:05:35,889

But now there's that debate.

:

01:05:35,919 --> 01:05:36,929

What do I do next?

:

01:05:36,939 --> 01:05:38,839

And this is what helps him

push him over the edge.

:

01:05:39,299 --> 01:05:42,059

Fletcher is appalled at his

boss belief that kids, quote

:

01:05:42,059 --> 01:05:43,809

unquote, give you leverage.

:

01:05:43,859 --> 01:05:44,349

Right.

:

01:05:44,429 --> 01:05:45,419

In a divorce case.

:

01:05:45,419 --> 01:05:49,619

He shuns his handshake and openly admits

he did the wrong thing, which likely will

:

01:05:49,649 --> 01:05:52,059

cost him his partnership, if not his job.

:

01:05:52,389 --> 01:05:53,599

Here comes a green shift.

:

01:05:53,919 --> 01:05:55,369

He proceeds to tell off the judge.

:

01:05:55,399 --> 01:05:55,759

Now.

:

01:05:56,614 --> 01:05:57,824

Why is that a green shift?

:

01:05:57,984 --> 01:06:01,404

Well, actually, no, I'm sorry, the

green shift is telling off the boss.

:

01:06:01,564 --> 01:06:01,864

Yeah.

:

01:06:01,894 --> 01:06:02,224

Right?

:

01:06:02,364 --> 01:06:02,864

Yeah, yeah.

:

01:06:02,874 --> 01:06:04,834

Because he doesn't want to

work for him anyway, not if

:

01:06:04,834 --> 01:06:05,913

he's gonna be like that, right?

:

01:06:05,913 --> 01:06:06,374

Right.

:

01:06:06,484 --> 01:06:10,544

But then he tells off the

judge in addition, and that's

:

01:06:10,544 --> 01:06:12,234

your break into three, right?

:

01:06:12,234 --> 01:06:15,974

By telling off the judge, he lands

himself in contempt in effect, he

:

01:06:15,974 --> 01:06:19,944

won't be able to see Max before he

leaves, thus making him a liar again.

:

01:06:20,424 --> 01:06:24,044

And as they're hauling him off to

jail, he's yelling, I'm Jose Canseco!

:

01:06:24,045 --> 01:06:26,704

I'm Jose Canseco!

:

01:06:26,704 --> 01:06:29,024

All right, we're in act three.

:

01:06:29,324 --> 01:06:30,534

Five point finale.

:

01:06:30,534 --> 01:06:30,984

Are you ready?

:

01:06:30,984 --> 01:06:31,614

I'm ready.

:

01:06:31,704 --> 01:06:32,354

Here we go.

:

01:06:32,934 --> 01:06:36,744

Gathering the team, A and B stories

collide as Greta hears about his

:

01:06:36,744 --> 01:06:38,374

honesty and bails him out of jail.

:

01:06:38,724 --> 01:06:40,094

The confident comes through.

:

01:06:40,538 --> 01:06:42,719

And what does Jim Carrey

say standing on the steps?

:

01:06:42,889 --> 01:06:44,929

You know, this truth

telling stuff's pretty cool.

:

01:06:45,219 --> 01:06:45,829

Yeah, right?

:

01:06:45,939 --> 01:06:46,239

Right?

:

01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:46,649

There you go.

:

01:06:47,189 --> 01:06:48,759

Alright, execution of the plan.

:

01:06:48,769 --> 01:06:51,119

Fletcher goes to the airport

to stop them from leaving.

:

01:06:51,399 --> 01:06:52,549

High tower surprise.

:

01:06:52,709 --> 01:06:55,029

The flight is already closed up

and the plane is heading out.

:

01:06:55,038 --> 01:06:55,759

He missed them.

:

01:06:56,239 --> 01:06:57,149

Dig down deep.

:

01:06:57,434 --> 01:06:59,134

He's gotta find a way to stop the plane.

:

01:06:59,714 --> 01:07:04,484

So, he gets on the runway, and

takes the runway stairs, and he's

:

01:07:04,504 --> 01:07:06,374

driving it out to the runway.

:

01:07:06,384 --> 01:07:06,824

In the most

:

01:07:06,824 --> 01:07:08,714

ridiculous, funniest way possible.

:

01:07:08,714 --> 01:07:09,163

Most

:

01:07:09,184 --> 01:07:14,544

ridiculous, nonsensical thing,

and those stairs, mind you, are

:

01:07:14,544 --> 01:07:16,479

as Fast as the plane is going.

:

01:07:19,009 --> 01:07:22,159

. I thought it was kind of funny that the

guy's fixing the stairs as he takes off.

:

01:07:22,189 --> 01:07:22,429

Yeah.

:

01:07:22,459 --> 01:07:24,439

Like what was he installing

A new fucking engine?

:

01:07:24,439 --> 01:07:28,129

Because that thing is taken off

and it's going leg with leg to

:

01:07:28,129 --> 01:07:29,538

leg with the fucking airplane.

:

01:07:29,544 --> 01:07:31,759

I like how Jim Carrey is

like, you did a great job.

:

01:07:31,759 --> 01:07:32,749

Yeah, did a great job.

:

01:07:33,499 --> 01:07:34,759

Execution of the new plan.

:

01:07:34,759 --> 01:07:37,788

After hijacking the stairs, he runs

down the plane and gets him to stop

:

01:07:37,788 --> 01:07:40,544

by throwing his shoe at the at.

:

01:07:42,639 --> 01:07:46,029

He stopped, the plane

stops, he stops, he crashes.

:

01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:51,159

And of course, it leads us to the climax,

while laying there with two broken legs.

:

01:07:51,369 --> 01:07:53,859

Chris: Didn't he say the good

news is I broke two legs,

:

01:07:53,859 --> 01:07:55,259

they can't take me to jail.

:

01:07:55,288 --> 01:07:57,809

Jerome: I broke both my legs,

they can't take me to jail.

:

01:07:58,699 --> 01:08:01,019

So while laying there with

broken legs, he's truthful to Max

:

01:08:01,019 --> 01:08:03,989

about letting him know that he

has learned his lesson, right?

:

01:08:04,009 --> 01:08:05,189

He learned to tell the truth.

:

01:08:07,094 --> 01:08:09,494

By the way, this is a little

little trivia too as well.

:

01:08:10,444 --> 01:08:13,984

Jim Carrey played a character called

Fire Marshal Bill when he was on the

:

01:08:14,004 --> 01:08:15,994

sketch comedy show In Living Color.

:

01:08:16,004 --> 01:08:16,344

Yeah.

:

01:08:16,874 --> 01:08:17,974

He's in that scene.

:

01:08:18,533 --> 01:08:19,453

I don't know if you know that.

:

01:08:19,694 --> 01:08:25,014

When the little boy Says to his or when

the, the mom and Jerry show up with

:

01:08:25,014 --> 01:08:28,144

the little boy and she says, that's my

husband, that's my husband, you know,

:

01:08:28,163 --> 01:08:29,384

cause the cops trying to hold him back.

:

01:08:29,514 --> 01:08:29,754

Yeah.

:

01:08:29,754 --> 01:08:30,964

Oh, yeah, you can't come in here yet.

:

01:08:31,004 --> 01:08:32,064

And she's like, that's my husband.

:

01:08:32,104 --> 01:08:36,794

In the background is Jim Carrey dressed

as Fire Marshal Bill on his radio.

:

01:08:36,984 --> 01:08:37,724

On his radio.

:

01:08:37,724 --> 01:08:38,584

I missed that.

:

01:08:38,714 --> 01:08:39,584

I gotta go look it up.

:

01:08:39,604 --> 01:08:40,974

Just YouTube it, it's hilarious.

:

01:08:40,984 --> 01:08:41,844

Oh my god, that's great.

:

01:08:41,844 --> 01:08:44,904

But anyway, so he makes an appearance

in the background of that scene.

:

01:08:45,084 --> 01:08:47,634

Chris: I'll have to put the link

to that YouTube in the show notes.

:

01:08:49,288 --> 01:08:51,669

Jerome: Now, he sees that

he's past the 24 hours.

:

01:08:52,219 --> 01:08:53,889

Of, of the truth telling window.

:

01:08:54,099 --> 01:08:56,078

But that's important because

he wanted to be honest.

:

01:08:56,078 --> 01:08:57,818

He wanted to show that

he was telling the truth.

:

01:08:58,259 --> 01:08:59,599

He achieves his spiritual goal.

:

01:09:00,118 --> 01:09:00,959

Resolution.

:

01:09:01,059 --> 01:09:04,509

Audrey and Jerry split, and Audrey

and Max are not gonna go to Boston.

:

01:09:04,839 --> 01:09:05,868

The closing image.

:

01:09:06,689 --> 01:09:10,908

A year later, and after a birthday candle

kissed between the parents, Max is happy.

:

01:09:10,929 --> 01:09:12,939

He now has an honest father.

:

01:09:12,940 --> 01:09:16,379

Chris: And, assumably, a reunited family.

:

01:09:17,379 --> 01:09:19,559

Jerome: Oh yeah, I think it eludes the

fact that they're getting back together.

:

01:09:19,599 --> 01:09:19,919

Yeah.

:

01:09:20,734 --> 01:09:22,283

Now, couple of funny parts.

:

01:09:22,834 --> 01:09:23,214

Chris: Couple?

:

01:09:24,834 --> 01:09:27,794

Jerome: In addition to all the funny

shit we said, there are little things

:

01:09:27,794 --> 01:09:30,684

that I thought were funny like,

Like when he says, at the beginning,

:

01:09:30,684 --> 01:09:34,163

when Jim Carrey says, Oh, I didn't

think after our marriage you'd have

:

01:09:34,163 --> 01:09:35,693

enough energy to give it another go.

:

01:09:35,693 --> 01:09:38,024

And she goes, well you forget, when

we were married I wasn't having

:

01:09:38,024 --> 01:09:39,254

sex nearly as much as you were.

:

01:09:39,334 --> 01:09:40,544

Chris: Yeah, burn!

:

01:09:40,984 --> 01:09:41,984

Jerome: And he's all, ouch!

:

01:09:43,663 --> 01:09:45,014

The ref takes a point away!

:

01:09:46,084 --> 01:09:46,924

That was a good line.

:

01:09:47,174 --> 01:09:49,644

But yeah, I mean there's so many,

so many throughout the film.

:

01:09:49,823 --> 01:09:53,634

When Greta's telling him off and

tells the story about By the way,

:

01:09:53,634 --> 01:09:54,764

that's trivia as well, I think.

:

01:09:54,764 --> 01:09:56,794

I think the producers got that story.

:

01:09:56,804 --> 01:09:57,684

That really happened.

:

01:09:57,764 --> 01:09:58,894

Oh, about the lawyer?

:

01:09:59,644 --> 01:10:03,064

A burglar falls through somebody's

skylight or something and cuts themselves

:

01:10:03,064 --> 01:10:05,424

and they sued the person and won.

:

01:10:05,914 --> 01:10:08,644

And she goes he won 7, 000.

:

01:10:08,644 --> 01:10:09,684

Now is that fair?

:

01:10:09,684 --> 01:10:10,414

And he goes, no.

:

01:10:10,679 --> 01:10:11,519

I would've gotten them ten!

:

01:10:13,789 --> 01:10:13,829

Right.

:

01:10:15,729 --> 01:10:18,068

So, a lot of great lines in this movie.

:

01:10:18,509 --> 01:10:20,949

Um, Alright, trivia.

:

01:10:21,339 --> 01:10:21,719

You ready?

:

01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:24,929

At the beginning, he runs into

two people on the front stairs.

:

01:10:24,939 --> 01:10:28,869

The first one is Christopher

Darden, famous from the OJ trial.

:

01:10:29,459 --> 01:10:32,504

And Darden says how'd it

go in there, Fletcher?

:

01:10:32,504 --> 01:10:35,864

And he says, just another victory

for the wrongfully accused.

:

01:10:35,964 --> 01:10:36,554

Right.

:

01:10:36,634 --> 01:10:38,464

And Darton says, yeah, right.

:

01:10:39,504 --> 01:10:39,784

Okay?

:

01:10:40,154 --> 01:10:40,924

We all know what that is, eh?

:

01:10:41,193 --> 01:10:41,394

Jeez.

:

01:10:41,594 --> 01:10:44,474

The other person he sees on the

stairs is an actor named Randall

:

01:10:44,504 --> 01:10:48,174

Tex Cobb, who he's the guy that

says, hey, you want your coat back?

:

01:10:48,174 --> 01:10:49,164

Or you want your jacket back?

:

01:10:49,184 --> 01:10:50,474

And he says, no, you'll probably need it.

:

01:10:51,074 --> 01:10:52,004

Here's a couple of things here.

:

01:10:52,024 --> 01:10:56,284

There's a deleted scene in the beginning

of the movie where he gets that guy off.

:

01:10:56,294 --> 01:10:58,344

Like, there's a court scene

where he actually gets him off.

:

01:10:58,384 --> 01:10:58,734

Okay.

:

01:10:59,164 --> 01:11:02,004

He's the actor that is in

the beginning of Ace Ventura.

:

01:11:02,494 --> 01:11:02,943

Oh, really?

:

01:11:02,943 --> 01:11:05,693

That he delivers the broken

package to at the very beginning.

:

01:11:06,594 --> 01:11:06,984

Right?

:

01:11:07,394 --> 01:11:08,724

And he's trying to kidnap the dog.

:

01:11:08,804 --> 01:11:11,374

And then when he's trying to get away

and the guy comes after him with the bat.

:

01:11:11,384 --> 01:11:12,364

That's the same actor.

:

01:11:12,654 --> 01:11:12,744

Okay.

:

01:11:12,754 --> 01:11:18,834

But anyway, what's even more funny about

that is it, this is still a funny part.

:

01:11:19,474 --> 01:11:22,074

But it holds more weight if they

had kept that deleted scene in.

:

01:11:22,554 --> 01:11:25,884

He's the guy on the phone, where

later in the movie, Jim Carrey goes,

:

01:11:26,134 --> 01:11:27,754

Stop breaking the law, asshole!

:

01:11:28,744 --> 01:11:29,054

That's the guy!

:

01:11:29,074 --> 01:11:30,134

Oh, yeah.

:

01:11:30,135 --> 01:11:31,484

Because he's in trouble again.

:

01:11:31,484 --> 01:11:31,994

Okay.

:

01:11:32,094 --> 01:11:33,574

Just as he said he would be.

:

01:11:33,654 --> 01:11:34,134

Yeah.

:

01:11:36,164 --> 01:11:37,254

Which is another funny part.

:

01:11:37,414 --> 01:11:38,774

He wants your legal advice.

:

01:11:39,074 --> 01:11:41,174

Stop breaking the law, asshole!

:

01:11:41,324 --> 01:11:43,044

Which, he's telling the truth!

:

01:11:43,045 --> 01:11:54,068

Not just to stop breaking

the law, but truth!

:

01:11:54,679 --> 01:11:54,909

Yes.

:

01:11:56,259 --> 01:11:58,079

He's telling the truth that

that guy is an asshole!

:

01:12:01,869 --> 01:12:02,559

Alright, sorry.

:

01:12:03,119 --> 01:12:03,869

That's great.

:

01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:06,429

Okay, couple other interesting trivia.

:

01:12:06,429 --> 01:12:08,639

Jim Carrey turned down the role of Dr.

:

01:12:08,649 --> 01:12:11,109

Evil in Austin Powers in

order to do this film.

:

01:12:11,359 --> 01:12:15,664

Coincidentally, Mike Myers Mike Myers

was offered Liar Liar and turned it

:

01:12:15,664 --> 01:12:17,514

down in order to make Austin Powers.

:

01:12:17,534 --> 01:12:17,984

Chris: What?

:

01:12:18,594 --> 01:12:19,104

Yes.

:

01:12:19,214 --> 01:12:20,204

Wow.

:

01:12:20,264 --> 01:12:22,144

Could you imagine the flip on that?

:

01:12:22,214 --> 01:12:22,524

Yeah.

:

01:12:22,524 --> 01:12:23,454

I can't.

:

01:12:23,654 --> 01:12:24,544

Jerome: Yeah, that's crazy.

:

01:12:24,554 --> 01:12:27,074

Chris: It would have been two

completely different movies.

:

01:12:27,284 --> 01:12:27,524

Yeah.

:

01:12:27,574 --> 01:12:31,519

Because they would have both put

their own Spins and, you know,

:

01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,499

their own improv, probably, right?

:

01:12:33,779 --> 01:12:35,599

Jerome: And the fact that Mike

Myers ended up playing Dr.

:

01:12:35,599 --> 01:12:37,189

Evil himself, right?

:

01:12:37,279 --> 01:12:38,579

When he couldn't get Jim Carrey.

:

01:12:39,068 --> 01:12:39,759

That's amazing.

:

01:12:40,089 --> 01:12:41,159

Yeah, that's, that's interesting.

:

01:12:41,568 --> 01:12:45,009

So so the film is dedicated to Jason

Bernard, who played the judge, who

:

01:12:45,029 --> 01:12:48,159

sadly died of a heart attack shortly

after the film was done shooting.

:

01:12:48,409 --> 01:12:49,979

Bernard got his big break.

:

01:12:50,119 --> 01:12:50,969

You would know this.

:

01:12:51,019 --> 01:12:52,389

I know you've known that judge, right?

:

01:12:52,389 --> 01:12:53,129

You've seen him before.

:

01:12:53,129 --> 01:12:53,809

Yeah, what was he in?

:

01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:56,469

He got his big break in a recurring show.

:

01:12:56,759 --> 01:12:59,359

A recurring television

miniseries, V, back in the 80s.

:

01:12:59,379 --> 01:12:59,959

Chris: Oh yeah!

:

01:13:00,369 --> 01:13:01,739

Oh my god, I love that show.

:

01:13:02,269 --> 01:13:05,519

Jerome: He also famously played Sandra

Bullock's boss in While You Were Sleeping.

:

01:13:05,549 --> 01:13:06,469

Okay, yep.

:

01:13:07,039 --> 01:13:07,519

Okay.

:

01:13:07,699 --> 01:13:08,439

That's all I got.

:

01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:09,229

What are your thoughts?

:

01:13:09,909 --> 01:13:10,859

Chris: I mean, come on.

:

01:13:11,429 --> 01:13:12,379

Where do I start?

:

01:13:12,379 --> 01:13:14,239

I love this movie.

:

01:13:14,299 --> 01:13:15,529

I'm, you know.

:

01:13:15,889 --> 01:13:19,619

So, one of the characters that I remember,

like so many of these characters I

:

01:13:19,629 --> 01:13:24,029

remember from other things, you know,

obviously we talked about Jerry, you

:

01:13:24,029 --> 01:13:28,818

know, and Princess Bride, but Dana

Appleton, who is the attorney at the

:

01:13:28,818 --> 01:13:34,059

end of the movie the opposing attorney

she, her name is swoozie Kurtz.

:

01:13:34,139 --> 01:13:35,119

Jerome: Swoozie Kurtz.

:

01:13:35,119 --> 01:13:36,989

She, she's, she's known, man.

:

01:13:36,989 --> 01:13:37,809

She's done a lot of shit.

:

01:13:37,809 --> 01:13:42,379

Chris: Well, it's funny cause I

recognized her from one episode of Lost.

:

01:13:42,964 --> 01:13:43,384

Really?

:

01:13:43,394 --> 01:13:45,424

Yeah, she was in one episode of Lost.

:

01:13:45,644 --> 01:13:52,534

She played uh, John Locke's mom in

Lost and it was like a flashback

:

01:13:52,534 --> 01:13:57,514

scene and, but it was a great, it, I

think her character and, and like John

:

01:13:57,514 --> 01:14:04,094

Locke's story arc hinged so much on

who she was and, and and that, that how

:

01:14:04,094 --> 01:14:05,824

that whole, how his life played out.

:

01:14:05,824 --> 01:14:08,449

But I just remembered her and it

was, you know, it was a great, yeah.

:

01:14:08,559 --> 01:14:11,879

Performance she she gave in

lost but but yeah, you're right.

:

01:14:11,889 --> 01:14:13,229

She's been in a ton of stuff.

:

01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:16,209

So yeah, it was just a great cast, man

:

01:14:16,359 --> 01:14:17,189

Jerome: I remember her.

:

01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:20,299

I want to say the first time I saw

her and again, she'd been around

:

01:14:20,299 --> 01:14:23,219

forever But i'm I was young at

the time, you know what I mean?

:

01:14:23,219 --> 01:14:30,229

o we're talking I want to say:

Had I was 18 years old and there was an

:

01:14:30,279 --> 01:14:37,489

hbo movie called and the band played on

which was about how kind of aids Spread?

:

01:14:37,489 --> 01:14:38,568

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

01:14:38,570 --> 01:14:41,389

It was based on a book by Randy

Schiltz, I think I saw that.

:

01:14:41,509 --> 01:14:42,739

It loaded with stars.

:

01:14:42,739 --> 01:14:43,049

Yeah.

:

01:14:43,068 --> 01:14:44,209

She was one of the people.

:

01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:47,109

She has a huge, she has a huge impact.

:

01:14:47,109 --> 01:14:48,229

I wouldn't say she has a huge role.

:

01:14:48,318 --> 01:14:49,329

She's in one scene.

:

01:14:49,429 --> 01:14:49,689

Right.

:

01:14:49,699 --> 01:14:52,619

But like you said, like with

Lost, it's an impactful scene.

:

01:14:52,679 --> 01:14:56,639

Chris: Well, and, and Lost came

out several years after this, so I

:

01:14:56,639 --> 01:15:00,619

just, re watching it, I remembered

she was in Lost, you know, so.

:

01:15:00,620 --> 01:15:03,549

Jerome: And she, and, and that's

one of those, she, in her scene in

:

01:15:03,549 --> 01:15:08,134

that movie, She has the line that

they would show in trailers for that

:

01:15:08,134 --> 01:15:09,844

movie, because it's so impactful.

:

01:15:10,384 --> 01:15:13,044

She's one that received

AIDS in a blood transfusion.

:

01:15:13,044 --> 01:15:13,854

That's her character.

:

01:15:13,904 --> 01:15:14,564

Oh, wow.

:

01:15:14,664 --> 01:15:19,124

In her scene, she says, almost looking

right into the camera, Are you telling

:

01:15:19,124 --> 01:15:22,364

me they knew they were giving AIDS

to people and continued to do it?

:

01:15:22,504 --> 01:15:22,714

Wow.

:

01:15:22,734 --> 01:15:27,284

So that was because the, the blood bank

was refusing to do testing or anything.

:

01:15:27,514 --> 01:15:31,809

So, that, you know, that, again, that's

like, Like you said, for Lost, she's

:

01:15:31,809 --> 01:15:35,539

in one scene of that movie, but it's

an impactful scene, and it's a line

:

01:15:35,539 --> 01:15:37,139

of dialogue they show in the trailer.

:

01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:40,979

Chris: I loved her outtake where

she called Jim Carrey a over actor.

:

01:15:41,899 --> 01:15:45,009

Jerome: But if you listen,

while everyone's laughing, she

:

01:15:45,209 --> 01:15:46,899

says, Tom, Tom made me do that.

:

01:15:46,929 --> 01:15:47,699

Tom, the director.

:

01:15:47,700 --> 01:15:48,355

Tom did that.

:

01:15:48,355 --> 01:15:49,859

She's like, he put me up to it.

:

01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:51,039

He put me up to it.

:

01:15:51,039 --> 01:15:51,399

That was great.

:

01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:53,369

So, so, I mean, again.

:

01:15:53,809 --> 01:15:55,369

They love this director, right?

:

01:15:55,499 --> 01:15:59,269

Guys like that, and I could totally

see him pulling Swoozie Kurtz aside and

:

01:15:59,269 --> 01:16:02,318

saying, Hey, when he starts doing his

back and forth, call him an over actor.

:

01:16:05,649 --> 01:16:05,959

Chris: Yeah.

:

01:16:06,829 --> 01:16:07,989

No, good stuff, man.

:

01:16:08,009 --> 01:16:09,519

This was a fun episode.

:

01:16:09,519 --> 01:16:11,529

I enjoyed doing a couple comedies.

:

01:16:12,574 --> 01:16:15,134

Jerome: I have to break into one

of my lightsabers before we do

:

01:16:15,154 --> 01:16:18,364

Six Degrees because I've been

doing all of the Sharkarita.

:

01:16:18,644 --> 01:16:20,964

Chris: Yeah, I've been getting liquored

up while you took the show, man.

:

01:16:21,104 --> 01:16:22,354

I love this job.

:

01:16:24,294 --> 01:16:26,443

Jerome: But I've been doing so much

of the Sharkarita, I didn't get to it.

:

01:16:26,454 --> 01:16:26,854

So here we go.

:

01:16:26,864 --> 01:16:27,324

Are you ready?

:

01:16:27,984 --> 01:16:29,314

This is in honor of Six Degrees.

:

01:16:30,544 --> 01:16:31,744

Oh yeah, okay.

:

01:16:32,044 --> 01:16:37,414

Chris: So, because we were delayed,

I don't have the names I gave you.

:

01:16:37,443 --> 01:16:40,384

I gave I know who I know

the one was the kid, right?

:

01:16:41,004 --> 01:16:41,034

Yes.

:

01:16:41,044 --> 01:16:45,754

In Liar Liar, so you're gonna have

to tell me, who did I give you?

:

01:16:46,284 --> 01:16:46,914

I can't remember the

:

01:16:47,193 --> 01:16:48,584

Jerome: I could just make

anybody up at this point.

:

01:16:48,594 --> 01:16:52,289

No, there's a So Justin

Cooper does play the kid.

:

01:16:52,449 --> 01:16:55,009

Chris: I remember there was an older

actor and a younger actor, right?

:

01:16:55,009 --> 01:16:55,399

Jerome: There is.

:

01:16:55,689 --> 01:16:59,849

The other actor was James Reed,

who plays Ella Wood's dad.

:

01:16:59,879 --> 01:17:00,209

Right.

:

01:17:00,209 --> 01:17:05,094

Who plays Reese Witherspoon's

father in Legally Blonde.

:

01:17:05,364 --> 01:17:09,244

Familiar I'm sure by now I'm six degrees,

but you might not be familiar so much with

:

01:17:09,244 --> 01:17:13,804

our rules now Our rules are I can't use

either of the films that were that were

:

01:17:13,804 --> 01:17:17,634

using to discuss today Yeah, yeah So I

have to pick two different ones to connect

:

01:17:17,674 --> 01:17:22,754

Ella Woods's father in legally blonde to

Justin Cooper who plays Max In Liar Liar.

:

01:17:23,104 --> 01:17:23,344

Yep.

:

01:17:23,744 --> 01:17:24,234

Side note!

:

01:17:24,364 --> 01:17:28,014

Chris: I went that way to you know,

I like to try to make it hard, not

:

01:17:28,014 --> 01:17:33,184

to stump you, but because we want

to know if it is possible to connect

:

01:17:33,193 --> 01:17:35,144

any two actors within six degrees.

:

01:17:35,164 --> 01:17:38,244

And the harder you make it, the

more interesting it is, I think.

:

01:17:38,614 --> 01:17:39,434

Jerome: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

01:17:39,714 --> 01:17:42,094

So, a couple side notes

here before I tell you.

:

01:17:42,769 --> 01:17:44,318

They're both on General Hospital.

:

01:17:44,849 --> 01:17:47,029

Now, at, at different times though.

:

01:17:47,148 --> 01:17:48,789

They weren't, they never worked together.

:

01:17:48,789 --> 01:17:50,519

But they both had stints

on General Hospital.

:

01:17:50,519 --> 01:17:52,839

Chris: But they both worked probably

with other actors that were.

:

01:17:52,839 --> 01:17:54,279

But, but we don't use TV shows.

:

01:17:54,279 --> 01:17:55,529

Jerome: But we don't use TV shows.

:

01:17:55,529 --> 01:17:56,359

Right, right, right.

:

01:17:56,359 --> 01:18:00,599

Now, and if I could use

Liar Liar, it's in two.

:

01:18:01,869 --> 01:18:06,969

Because James Reid was:

Jason Bernard who's in Liar Liar.

:

01:18:06,969 --> 01:18:09,318

So if I could have used Liar

Liar, it would have been in two.

:

01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,849

But, But I still got it in three.

:

01:18:12,568 --> 01:18:16,818

All right, James Reed is in Eight

Men Out, the:

:

01:18:16,818 --> 01:18:19,209

the Chicago White Sox scandal.

:

01:18:19,469 --> 01:18:19,919

Eight Men Out.

:

01:18:21,134 --> 01:18:26,414

With Richard Edson, who I

know you know who he is.

:

01:18:26,894 --> 01:18:29,184

So you remember this isn't

one of the movies, but do you

:

01:18:29,184 --> 01:18:30,523

remember Ferris Bueller's Day Off?

:

01:18:30,574 --> 01:18:31,034

Yeah.

:

01:18:31,534 --> 01:18:34,634

Where they take the, the

Ferrari to the parking garage?

:

01:18:34,635 --> 01:18:35,564

Yes.

:

01:18:35,564 --> 01:18:36,744

And he says, do you speak English?

:

01:18:36,744 --> 01:18:38,693

And the guy goes, what

country do you think this is?

:

01:18:39,394 --> 01:18:40,404

That's Richard Edson.

:

01:18:40,754 --> 01:18:41,943

So you know his face.

:

01:18:41,964 --> 01:18:43,424

Cause he's actually

been in a lot of movies.

:

01:18:43,614 --> 01:18:44,554

He's been in a shitload of movies.

:

01:18:45,104 --> 01:18:46,584

So that's, that's him.

:

01:18:46,594 --> 01:18:47,804

He's Richard, that's Richard Edson.

:

01:18:48,443 --> 01:18:49,874

So but he was in Platoon.

:

01:18:50,344 --> 01:18:50,934

He was implicated.

:

01:18:50,934 --> 01:18:52,504

But anyway, so that shows you his range.

:

01:18:52,504 --> 01:18:53,224

He's all over the place.

:

01:18:53,434 --> 01:18:57,634

So Richard Edson was also in

a:

:

01:18:58,784 --> 01:19:00,814

I want to say with

Pauly Shore as the lead.

:

01:19:00,984 --> 01:19:01,454

Okay.

:

01:19:02,023 --> 01:19:05,854

With Brian Doyle Murray, who was

in Dennis the Menace Strikes Back.

:

01:19:06,344 --> 01:19:10,744

Oh no, Dennis the Menace Strikes

Again,:

:

01:19:11,084 --> 01:19:12,364

So that's three connections.

:

01:19:12,384 --> 01:19:15,824

Eight men out, jury duty, and

Dennis the Menace Strikes Again.

:

01:19:15,894 --> 01:19:18,443

Chris: I'm gonna throw a flag on the play.

:

01:19:19,459 --> 01:19:20,689

I'm gonna throw a flag.

:

01:19:22,019 --> 01:19:23,599

Hold on, let's look it up.

:

01:19:24,559 --> 01:19:26,289

I'm looking up Dennis the Menace.

:

01:19:27,129 --> 01:19:28,049

Strikes again.

:

01:19:29,139 --> 01:19:30,039

Take a look at it on

:

01:19:30,049 --> 01:19:30,479

IMDb.

:

01:19:32,619 --> 01:19:33,999

It wasn't on the big screen.

:

01:19:34,809 --> 01:19:36,879

Jerome: Oh, we've done, we've

done shit like that before.

:

01:19:36,898 --> 01:19:38,389

We've done straight to video movies.

:

01:19:38,389 --> 01:19:39,789

Chris: This is straight to video.

:

01:19:39,789 --> 01:19:40,598

I thought it had to be

:

01:19:40,598 --> 01:19:41,553

Jerome: We've done straight

to video movies before.

:

01:19:41,553 --> 01:19:43,739

Chris: This is the

Silver Screen Happy Hour.

:

01:19:44,219 --> 01:19:47,099

Jerome: When you you fucking prick.

:

01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:50,659

You, you bastard.

:

01:19:50,669 --> 01:19:55,454

Now listen, we We have done straight

to video before when you have

:

01:19:55,454 --> 01:19:57,764

given me names that, you know,

:

01:19:58,124 --> 01:20:01,023

Chris: I thought you were going to go to

the Magnificent, no, that was a TV series.

:

01:20:01,025 --> 01:20:03,124

Jerome: You can't be

moving the goalposts here.

:

01:20:03,634 --> 01:20:06,834

Chris: This kid was only

in TV and a couple movies.

:

01:20:06,884 --> 01:20:08,014

Jerome: That's what I'm saying.

:

01:20:08,023 --> 01:20:10,634

So you gotta give me this

straight to video movie.

:

01:20:11,354 --> 01:20:15,014

It's still a feature length

film that required film cameras,

:

01:20:15,294 --> 01:20:17,154

film actors, a director.

:

01:20:17,294 --> 01:20:19,224

It's still a film set, you ass.

:

01:20:19,629 --> 01:20:22,068

Chris: Okay, well, I'll give

it to you with an asterisk.

:

01:20:23,829 --> 01:20:23,929

Jerome: Fuck.

:

01:20:24,299 --> 01:20:28,506

I'm the Houston Astros all of a sudden.

:

01:20:28,506 --> 01:20:29,859

Unbelievable.

:

01:20:31,739 --> 01:20:32,318

You see?

:

01:20:32,318 --> 01:20:33,599

You hear how he does me?

:

01:20:33,609 --> 01:20:34,879

He does me wrong, people.

:

01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:37,099

Anyway.

:

01:20:37,109 --> 01:20:37,679

Chris: I'm looking.

:

01:20:37,689 --> 01:20:41,099

There's only, man, Adventures of Ragtime.

:

01:20:41,109 --> 01:20:41,859

He did that.

:

01:20:41,859 --> 01:20:44,719

That must have been a feature

leak film on the big screen.

:

01:20:44,818 --> 01:20:46,859

Because it doesn't say straight to video.

:

01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:49,449

And then Liar Liar.

:

01:20:49,469 --> 01:20:51,829

Those are the only two

movies I think he did.

:

01:20:52,239 --> 01:20:52,679

Wait a minute.

:

01:20:52,699 --> 01:20:53,318

See y'all.

:

01:20:54,934 --> 01:20:55,214

Yeah?

:

01:20:55,684 --> 01:20:56,124

That's it.

:

01:20:56,184 --> 01:20:59,484

He was on an episode of

Full House, episode of ER.

:

01:21:01,023 --> 01:21:01,534

Huh.

:

01:21:02,044 --> 01:21:04,224

Now, I did read, like, a bit of trivia.

:

01:21:04,224 --> 01:21:07,714

This kid went on to become,

I think he's a Forts Forts.

:

01:21:08,224 --> 01:21:11,734

Man, a couple shots of

larceny going to my head.

:

01:21:12,494 --> 01:21:15,004

I think he's a Fox Sports commentator.

:

01:21:15,739 --> 01:21:16,449

I think I read that somewhere.

:

01:21:16,459 --> 01:21:17,159

Jerome: Justin Cooper?

:

01:21:17,209 --> 01:21:17,619

Chris: Yeah.

:

01:21:17,859 --> 01:21:18,989

Jerome: Yeah, I think I saw that too.

:

01:21:19,749 --> 01:21:20,318

Chris: Interesting.

:

01:21:20,669 --> 01:21:20,879

Yeah.

:

01:21:21,619 --> 01:21:23,129

Well, good, good job, man.

:

01:21:23,979 --> 01:21:24,549

This was fun.

:

01:21:25,309 --> 01:21:26,519

So much fun, man.

:

01:21:26,859 --> 01:21:29,599

We gotta do comedies again,

I enjoy mixing it up.

:

01:21:29,709 --> 01:21:32,789

We gotta do, a couple of

these a year, maybe, where we

:

01:21:32,789 --> 01:21:34,289

throw some good comedies in.

:

01:21:34,409 --> 01:21:37,709

Jerome: Yeah, we've had some, we've

had some heavy themed movies, man.

:

01:21:37,709 --> 01:21:39,689

Chris: Yeah, the World War, movies, man.

:

01:21:39,699 --> 01:21:40,519

It's like, uh.

:

01:21:40,779 --> 01:21:41,229

yeah.

:

01:21:41,249 --> 01:21:41,624

They're good.

:

01:21:41,624 --> 01:21:41,879

They're good.

:

01:21:41,879 --> 01:21:43,299

Jerome: So, ironically.

:

01:21:43,999 --> 01:21:47,489

A dark episode like Silence of the

Lambs is the one you almost died on

:

01:21:47,499 --> 01:21:50,879

from laughter, so sometimes we can

make light of just about anything.

:

01:21:50,879 --> 01:21:52,119

Chris: Yeah, 100%.

:

01:21:52,719 --> 01:21:53,029

Um.

:

01:21:53,739 --> 01:21:53,879

100%.

:

01:21:54,109 --> 01:21:58,499

I would like to still consider this

for a future episode, maybe another

:

01:21:58,509 --> 01:22:04,229

Jim Carrey movie, cause I think Jim

Carrey got a lot of inspiration.

:

01:22:04,404 --> 01:22:05,834

From Jerry Lewis.

:

01:22:05,904 --> 01:22:06,334

Sure.

:

01:22:06,364 --> 01:22:10,734

And I could imagine doing maybe an

old Jerry Lewis movie and pairing

:

01:22:10,734 --> 01:22:12,104

up with the Jim Carrey movie.

:

01:22:12,104 --> 01:22:16,654

Cause I mean the physical comedy that

Jerry Lewis brought to the screen, man.

:

01:22:17,114 --> 01:22:20,914

And a lot of people today don't

know they never seen those movies.

:

01:22:20,924 --> 01:22:23,424

A lot of kids probably

never saw Jerry Lewis movie.

:

01:22:23,834 --> 01:22:27,174

And yeah, it would be fun

to do a matchup like that.

:

01:22:27,184 --> 01:22:28,734

Jerry Lewis and Jim carrey.

:

01:22:29,284 --> 01:22:32,304

Jerome: So that reminds me, you know,

I almost forgot about the other trivia

:

01:22:32,714 --> 01:22:37,224

was that Jim Carrey who is quoted as

saying That it was one of the most

:

01:22:37,224 --> 01:22:40,443

exhausting movies he's ever made that

every time he would go home every

:

01:22:40,443 --> 01:22:44,693

night completely drained completely

exhausted Because they would do so many

:

01:22:44,693 --> 01:22:51,273

different takes of everything And that

I can't remember the number that the

:

01:22:51,273 --> 01:22:57,279

number but I want to say they burned

they burned more footage than Titanic.

:

01:22:57,359 --> 01:22:57,999

Chris: Oh my god.

:

01:22:58,339 --> 01:23:01,429

Jerome: And it just came out in

the same year, I want to say.

:

01:23:01,429 --> 01:23:04,409

That they, they, because

just, you know, unused.

:

01:23:04,689 --> 01:23:06,169

Titanic used theirs.

:

01:23:06,509 --> 01:23:10,389

But like, Liar Liar went through

more footage that was unused.

:

01:23:11,324 --> 01:23:13,193

Chris: I would love to see

some of those outtakes.

:

01:23:13,604 --> 01:23:15,664

Jerome: Yeah, I mean,

could you just imagine?

:

01:23:15,684 --> 01:23:18,454

And I remember people saying

on the set of The Office that

:

01:23:18,574 --> 01:23:19,773

Steve Carell is the same way.

:

01:23:20,244 --> 01:23:23,054

That, you know, what you see in

an episode of The Office took

:

01:23:23,064 --> 01:23:24,414

about 20 takes to get there.

:

01:23:24,464 --> 01:23:24,773

Yeah.

:

01:23:24,824 --> 01:23:27,234

And the other 19 were no less funny.

:

01:23:27,374 --> 01:23:28,334

Chris: Well, yeah, funny.

:

01:23:28,514 --> 01:23:32,574

I mean, have you watched the

new Office episodes on Peacock?

:

01:23:33,084 --> 01:23:34,634

Jerome: No, they have new office episodes.

:

01:23:34,874 --> 01:23:35,184

Chris: Yeah.

:

01:23:35,184 --> 01:23:42,693

So we exhausted, we watched the office

a million times on, I think Netflix

:

01:23:42,714 --> 01:23:45,454

when it was on and then Peacock got it.

:

01:23:45,523 --> 01:23:50,884

So to make people come back and watch it

with commercials, cause we don't pay for.

:

01:23:51,669 --> 01:23:52,009

Right.

:

01:23:52,009 --> 01:23:53,479

We get the commercials on Peacock.

:

01:23:53,480 --> 01:23:53,648

Yeah,

:

01:23:53,648 --> 01:23:54,689

Peacock gives you commercials.

:

01:23:54,869 --> 01:23:56,689

So does Freevie.

:

01:23:56,689 --> 01:23:57,379

So, in order to

:

01:23:57,379 --> 01:24:03,129

watch it, they, I mean, they got us to

come back because there's a lot of footage

:

01:24:03,148 --> 01:24:05,209

that were never in the original episodes.

:

01:24:05,659 --> 01:24:11,829

Wow, they put a lot of the outtakes

in back in so I'm watching it And

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I'm like and all of a sudden I'm bust

out laughing cuz I'm hearing stuff.

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I've never heard before.

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It's hilarious Yeah, yeah, you should

do you should pull it up and watch some

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Jerome: Ironically Jim Carrey

makes an appearance on that show

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Chris: when

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Jerome: did you know that

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Chris: when?

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I don't remember

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01:24:30,609 --> 01:24:33,529

Jerome: He's the Finger Lakes guy.

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01:24:33,989 --> 01:24:36,289

So near, I want to say it was

when they were trying to find

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01:24:36,289 --> 01:24:38,369

the new, the new branch manager.

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01:24:38,684 --> 01:24:40,674

It had to have been one of the

final episodes before Dwight

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01:24:40,693 --> 01:24:42,124

finally gets his shot being Dwight.

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And they start interviewing

all these weird people.

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01:24:44,454 --> 01:24:46,484

Jim Carrey is one of the

people they interview.

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01:24:46,824 --> 01:24:49,384

And all he keeps talking about is

how he's from the Finger Lakes.

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01:24:49,864 --> 01:24:51,264

Chris: I don't remember that part.

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01:24:51,634 --> 01:24:54,144

I remember when they were

interviewing all the different,

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01:24:54,204 --> 01:24:55,784

like it was a bunch of comedians.

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01:24:56,204 --> 01:24:56,224

Yeah.

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01:24:56,234 --> 01:24:57,144

That got interviewed.

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01:24:57,204 --> 01:24:57,734

It was great.

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01:24:57,934 --> 01:24:59,394

But I don't remember Jim Carrey.

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01:24:59,549 --> 01:25:02,379

Jerome: YouTube, The Office,

Jim Carrey, Finger Lakes.

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01:25:02,409 --> 01:25:04,889

And you can see his, his

very small part in it.

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01:25:05,029 --> 01:25:05,318

Alright.

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01:25:05,379 --> 01:25:05,979

But but yeah.

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01:25:05,989 --> 01:25:06,389

Wow.

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01:25:06,398 --> 01:25:08,939

So, everything goes full circle

with comedy and Jim Carrey.

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Alright, so looking ahead,

next month, February.

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01:25:13,469 --> 01:25:15,709

I'm assuming people are

listening while we're in January.

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01:25:15,809 --> 01:25:16,068

Yep.

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01:25:16,139 --> 01:25:19,969

Next month, February, is

our Valentine's Day special.

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01:25:20,564 --> 01:25:26,714

Where we pick a couple of romance films

that have to do with bending of time.

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01:25:26,773 --> 01:25:28,324

Yes, time travel, yep.

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01:25:28,504 --> 01:25:34,814

Two films are about time with Rachel

McAdams and Domhnall Gleeson and the other

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01:25:34,814 --> 01:25:40,104

one is what was it, Somewhere in Time

with Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour?

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01:25:40,104 --> 01:25:41,454

Jane Seymour.

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01:25:41,454 --> 01:25:42,604

That sounds right.

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01:25:43,074 --> 01:25:44,554

Yeah, so again.

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01:25:44,564 --> 01:25:45,773

We're just throwing this

out there right now.

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01:25:45,773 --> 01:25:48,564

We don't have any specs in front

of us So if we're getting the names

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01:25:48,564 --> 01:25:53,074

wrong, sorry But anyway, that's our

that's on our agenda for next month.

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01:25:53,324 --> 01:25:59,454

I've already begun The work on it

and some of it is already pissed

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01:25:59,454 --> 01:26:00,724

me off, but we'll get to that.

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01:26:00,814 --> 01:26:03,364

Chris: I can't wait I just can't wait.

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01:26:03,364 --> 01:26:03,704

That's all I'm gonna say.

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01:26:04,729 --> 01:26:05,769

Jerome: Keep drinking and keep watching.

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01:26:05,799 --> 01:26:07,359

Keep drinking, keep watching uh,

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go support your local

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cinema.

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Born and raised in Metro Detroit, Michigan. Graduate of Columbia College Chicago with a degree in Film/Screenwriting. Have lived in California since 2001. I enjoy screenwriting, script consulting and film analysis.
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