Episode 2

2024 Oscar Nominations & Lions Update!

Oscar Nominations 2024: Discussing Snubs, Predictions, and Unexpected Surprises

In this lively episode, the hosts discuss the much-anticipated 2024 Oscar nominations. They delve deep into the surprising snubs, particularly the absence of Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie from 'Barbie' in the nominations list. The hosts express their disagreement with these oversights, and theorize that political factors and lack of popularity might have put their chances on the backfoot. They also speculate about the potential winners in various categories. In a surprising twist, the hosts end the episode with a heartfelt conversation about their favorite sports team - the Detroit Lions. The episode is a mixed bag of film, culture, and sports commentary with a dash of humor.


00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter

00:00 Discussion on Oscar Nominations 2024

00:23 Preparation for the Show

00:35 Family Visits and Personal Stories

00:56 The Barbie Drink and Oscar Predictions

02:07 Oscar Nominations: The Process and History

04:54 The Barbie Movie: Nominations and Controversies

05:21 The Academy's Love for Ryan Gosling

10:07 The Snubbing of Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie

21:14 The Best Actor Race and the Absence of Leonardo DiCaprio

24:48 The Importance of the Writing Categories

26:31 Discussing Oscar Nominations and Predictions

26:49 Deep Dive into Spotlight's Oscar Win

28:04 A Light-hearted Interlude: Drinks and Banter

28:23 Analyzing the Politics of Oscar Wins

29:32 Debating the Merits of Barbie Movie

30:46 Planning Future Movie Reviews

31:02 Discussing Potential Movie Pairings for Reviews

41:31 A Tangent into Sports: Detroit Lions Discussion

48:32 Wrapping Up: Final Thoughts and Sign-Off


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Transcript
Chris:

Welcome to this special Oscar nominations 2024.

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Dude, my phone blew up this morning.

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Um, I'm in a group chat with my

daughters and I sent you a video.

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Did you get to watch that video?

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I sent a screenshot recording of

me going through the messages.

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And

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Jerome: people were pissed.

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Yeah.

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We have a hot one today, folks.

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Uh, before we get on it, though, let me,

um, I don't have anything special today.

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I'm just using my, my

regular lightsabers today.

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So let's just crack this open.

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This is the last night mom and

dad are in town visiting me.

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Surprise,

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Chris: you get a few minutes to

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Jerome: record.

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Yeah, they allowed me to have

this little moment to speak.

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Uh, we're doing Outback later tonight.

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Oh, nice.

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I

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Chris: love that they get to go

out a couple times a year usually.

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Jerome: Yeah, they come out

here twice a year they come out.

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Chris: Love it, love it.

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So, um, I was like frantic,

like, talking to Jessie and

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like, so, what's a Barbie drink?

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Cause we're doing Oscars and we're

definitely gonna talk about Barbie.

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Yes we are.

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So, she's like, well, sorry,

that's the ice going in the glass.

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She goes, well, first of all, she,

she directed me to the White Claws.

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Cause, well, yeah, most

white girls like White Claws.

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Yeah.

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And Barbie, the original

Barbie was a white girl.

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Jerome: Yeah, that was, that is a

total barbie drink, a White Claw.

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Chris: That's what I was going

to do, but then I looked in the

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refrigerator and she's like,

Oh, I didn't like this kombucha.

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It's called, uh, what is it?

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Uh, Synergy Pure Love Blood

Orange Hibiscus and Rose.

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Nice.

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Jerome: And I'm like,

Oh, it's not a vodka.

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Chris: That's a barbie drink.

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Yeah, it is.

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There you go.

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So that's what I'm doing.

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If she didn't, now get that though.

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If she didn't like it.

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You think I'm gonna like it?

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It's true.

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I mean, I like, uh, I do like

kombucha, but Here goes the vodka.

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Alright, so where do you want to start?

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I mean, obviously the big

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Jerome: ones.

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So we can, uh, let's talk first

about, um, By the way, I love today.

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I love today.

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Now, for those of you that don't know, The

Academy Awards are, uh, The nominations.

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Huh?

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I had to pause for that.

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Yeah, you are definitely, like, you

should be on poolside in your bikini.

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In your two piece.

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We're getting a picture of this.

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Yeah, you definitely need to

be on the poolside in your

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two piece bikini right now.

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Trying to work on your tan.

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That's exactly what that drink looks like.

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So, um 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

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So there was 10.

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Okay.

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So, for those of you, again, that don't

know, so the Oscar nominations always

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come out on a Tuesday in February,

or rather, what is this, January?

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Uh, late January, early February,

I think is the latest I've seen it.

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And it, um, So that gives the Academy

a couple months to vote on these

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nominations, and they're always

released, they're announced at 5.

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30 in the morning LA time, which

I always thought was crazy.

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Now, if you think, and that's like 8.

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30.

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Yeah, that way

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Chris: it makes the morning

primed, uh, morning shows.

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That's right.

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That's why

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Jerome: they do it.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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So the morning, so like E!

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Entertainment and all that shit,

we'll have something to talk about.

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I always thought, now if you think

it's crazy that they have them

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at 530 in the morning LA time in

LA, you would be even shocked.

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You probably wouldn't be

shocked at this point.

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What I've always wanted to do If I ever

was like, like, you know, had made a film

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and it was a possibility, I wanted to

pull an all night rager with friends and

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be up drinking until 5 30 in the morning.

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And then when we're all half in

the bag or they're all probably

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passed out, except me, I'd be like,

all right, guys, turn the TV on.

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Here it comes.

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And they're all Everybody's

passed out, and I'm like, it's 5.

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30, let's get those nominations!

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Just to see that I didn't get

nominated, and then I could just

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turn the TV off and go to bed.

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Um, but, so, also, we talked

about this, I think we mentioned

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this on a previous podcast.

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That after 2008, uh, the Academy changed

the rules to where you no longer, uh, have

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to have just 5 nominees for Best Picture.

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They expanded it to up to 10.

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I mean, and, and, most of the time

you'll get like 8 or 9, but the last

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few years they've filled out the card.

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There's been a full 10 and I just

looked and again, there's a full

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boat of 10 films this year as well.

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Um.

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So, let's start with the

elephant in the room.

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Let's just, uh, let's just

address it and talk about it,

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because we have to talk about it.

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We need to talk about it.

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Not we have to, we need to.

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Barbie.

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Now, Barbie, I have not seen yet,

but from what everyone I've talked to

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Chris: I've seen it.

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It was a fantastic movie.

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It was a fantastic script.

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Now, first talk about what

it did get nominated for.

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Jerome: Okay, so I've got,

I've got Best Picture.

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Best supporting actor, which my

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Chris: daughter said a lot to

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Jerome: say about that.

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Yeah, best supporting

actor, uh, Ryan Gosling.

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Now, before we take on the head on,

obvious, misogynistic, uh, discrediting

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of the Academy of Motion Pictures

Arts and Sciences, um, you have to

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realize, too, before we get into

it, The Academy loves Ryan Gosling.

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Let's just accept that right now.

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Everyone knows.

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Everyone Who doesn't love Ryan Gosling?

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No, but I mean, not in a way

like, uh, like, Oh, Schwarzenegger

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movies always make money.

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Like, they like him personally.

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He's a personable guy.

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He's, uh, there's never As far as I

know, there's never been to work with.

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Everybody that works with him

says he's a hell of a, he's a

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nice guy, he's a hell of a guy.

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Um, he's got the face that sells tickets.

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Uh, he was perfect pick for Ken.

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Let's, and let's address

that for a second.

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Everyone that's blasting

him getting nominated.

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He was, I don't know if I, if you

were to say they were going to make

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a Barbie movie, who should be Ken?

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I would have said Ryan Gosling

before you finished the sentence.

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So, you know, so talk

about perfect casting.

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Um, so, but, but aside from perfect

casting, he's got the face and everybody,

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you know, he's really great to work with.

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Um, he, he's a star right now, you know?

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So, so It makes sense that the Academy

gave him a nomination, and I don't

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think anybody would be shitting

on it if it didn't dump the two

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nominations it should have gotten,

and we'll get to that in a second.

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Right.

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So Ryan Gosling's kind of like

I'm glad we're going there.

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Yeah, I think, I think Ryan Gosling's

getting kind of the shit end of the stick

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right now because the other two didn't

get nominated, and because the other two

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didn't, he's sort of getting some maybe

unnecessary backlash and criticism, uh,

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when in reality, uh, you know If a film

is going to get a bunch of nominations

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and Ryan Gosling happens to be in it,

guess what, he's going to get one of them.

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Uh, but anyway, so I've got,

I've got, um, Adapted screenplay.

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Now, you would have heard outrage,

uh, more outrage than you're already

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getting if they had kept Greta

Gerwig out of the writing category.

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That would have been, uh, a flat out, we

do not like you, we don't want you here.

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Right.

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So she was named on that?

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She's nominated for Best

Adapted Screenplay, yes.

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Good, yes.

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And, and Barbie was also nominated

for Production Design, Costume Design.

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Sure.

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Did, did not get a

Cinematography nomination.

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It did not get an Editing nomination.

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And these are important, because Uh,

to be in serious contention for Best

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Picture, you almost always have either an

editing or a cinematography nomination.

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And, a lot of times, whoever wins

editing, oddly enough, wins Best Picture.

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Uh, it's just the way it always plays out.

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Barbie also got Knocked out of

makeup and hairstyling which again.

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I haven't seen it.

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I've only seen trailers, but I'm

surprised That it would be left out.

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That would have been a natural

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Chris: nom.

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I mean an obvious

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Jerome: nomination to me It's

it's it's a creative category.

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I guess they're all creative

categories It's the Academy Awards,

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but I mean it's something you

know what I mean like costumes and

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production design hair and makeup

to me is on the same level as Right.

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Production, design, and,

and, uh, and costumes, right?

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So, if you're nominated in those other

two, and you get left out of makeup and,

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and hair, that, that seems odd to me.

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Um, of course it didn't get anything,

well, I don't want to say of course,

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I haven't seen it, but I wouldn't

peg it as a film that would get a

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sound nomination, or a visual effects

nomination, didn't get any of those,

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uh, did not get original score, uh, and

obviously, the short films documentary,

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it's not, it's not eligible for.

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It did get nominated, and I'm so glad.

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Mom can tell you, she was sitting

at the kitchen table today, and I'm

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going through the nominations, and,

and I saw it, and I was like, YES!

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Barbie did snag a Best Original

Song nomination for Billie

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Eilish's What Was I Made For.

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Yeah, that song was amazing.

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It's such a great, and again, I didn't

even know when I stumbled across that

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song that it had any connection to Barbie.

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I didn't know it was from the movie.

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No, yeah.

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I, I stumbled upon it, um, I

wanna say, uh, Billy performed

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it on Saturday Night Live.

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And that was the first I, uh, I was

like, wow, this is a really cool song.

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This is kind of deep, you know?

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And then I looked it up and I was

like, oh, it's from Barbie, which

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makes it even grayer because if you

read the lyrics, it's totally as if

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Barbie's singing the song, right?

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Like, she's writing it from

Barbie's point of view.

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Um, so I was so glad to see

that that got nominated.

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And it did get, obviously,

nominated for Best Picture.

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So, for a film to get Production Design,

Costume Design, uh, I think those

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are the only two technical awards.

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And then the, and then the Uh, Best

Song, and then two fairly big ones,

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Best Supporting Actor and Best Picture.

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Most films, that's a

successful day at the office.

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Right.

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Right.

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Okay?

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But, it has to be called out that

the Academy's disrespect to Greta

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Gerwig is just I mean, again, and

Margot Robbie as well, but, but

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when you Ugh, how can I say this?

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She not getting nominated in a

category already filled with women.

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You know what I mean?

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Is, is less disgraceful because she

just got beat out by other women.

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Sure.

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But to leave Greta Gerwig out

of Best Director and fill it

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with a bunch of dudes Dude,

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Chris: when I saw the movie,

so it's put together so well,

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it's, it's directed very well.

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I mean, you don't get the, you

don't get what we got without

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her directing this movie.

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Yes.

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I don't know.

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And it was, I mean, the

finances, the financials alone

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tell, it kind of hit a chord.

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People liked it.

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I mean, I don't know.

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Jerome: So I mean.

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Where, where I'm conflicted,

where I'm conflicted is, who's

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my favorite director of all time?

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Chris: Um,

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Jerome: Scorsese.

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Yes.

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He got nominated.

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Yes.

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For Killers of the Flower Moon.

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Very old white man.

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So, um, Where I'm conflicted is I know

that some of the criticism is gonna be How

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do you give Scorsese another nomination?

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with his entire career body of work.

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He doesn't need another nomination.

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Just so that you can, you

know, leave out Greta Gerwig.

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Um, I would like to think

that he was getting in anyway.

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Because Killers of the Flower Moon was

one of the Oscar favorites this year.

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Um, and that maybe some

of these other ones.

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Now I have not seen The Zone of Interest.

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Jonathan Glazer is

nominated for Best Director.

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I have not seen Poor Things,

but the trailer looks amazing.

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The trailer looks amazing for Poor Things.

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That is definitely on my list.

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Um I'm not even gonna attempt this one.

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Alright, fine, I'll attempt it.

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Yorgos Lanthimos.

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I might have nailed that.

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Uh, director for Poor

Things got nominated.

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Of course, Christopher

Nolan for Oppenheimer.

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Let's not forget, folks, I've been talking

about Oppenheimer since last summer.

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So, I knew this film was gonna get

a bunch of nominations, and you knew

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Christopher Nolan was gonna be included.

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Again, Killers of the Flower

Moon, Scorsese, and then Anatomy

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of a Fall, which I have not

seen, but I saw it has a hmm.

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So, is this another film?

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You know, the Academy could

have just been like, man, wait a

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minute, is that another female?

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Maybe I was wrong, I said in

the category filled with males.

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Justine Triette?

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Do we have a female Best Director nominee?

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Now we have to look this up.

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Because I had never, I hadn't seen the

film, so I didn't know much about it.

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Anatomy of the Fall?

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Um, alright, let's take a look.

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Not that it excuses it.

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Not that, because, you know, we

don't, what we don't want is the

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perception that, Well, the female,

uh, was included, so we're okay.

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Because we hit our quota of one

female director in the bunch.

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Uh, we obviously don't want to say that.

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But I, I do want to correct myself

if I was wrong when I said that.

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Dead.

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She got left out of a

category filled with males.

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Yeah.

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Let's, yeah.

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You were wrong.

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I was wrong.

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She's his female.

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Uh, yes.

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Uh, wow.

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She's younger than me.

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Born in 78.

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Justine, is it Tette?

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Tette.

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So she directed this film

called Anatomy of a Fall.

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Again, I've, I haven't seen it.

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Um, I will see it.

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I, I always try to see all the

films that are for best picture,

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so I'm gonna see all of these.

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Um, it, it's, I guess it's, it's good

to know that the Academy is not just.

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You know, trying to do their

old men run the world shit.

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And women don't get to be nominated.

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Uh, so they did nominate a

female in the directing category.

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That makes it even tougher now.

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Uh, because where do you put Greta?

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Right?

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Is Barbie better directed?

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Jerome: right?

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Yes, for best director, maximum is five.

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And if you look at that

list, where do you put Greta?

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Chris: Well, I haven't seen all

these movies, so I can't even say.

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Jerome: Correct.

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I can't really either.

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Um, because I haven't

seen them all as well.

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Um, but just looking at the list,

right, you know Oppenheimer is

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going to be nominated for director.

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Um, again, I haven't seen Zone of

Interest or Poor Things, though,

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like I said, Poor Things looks good.

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Chris: So we're going to have to do

a follow up to the Oscars after we've

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seen everything, but we just wanted

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Jerome: to talk about this.

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And here's the funny thing, here's

the funny thing, I haven't even

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seen Barbie, and I'm on my soapbox

fighting for Greta Gerwig right now.

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Because that's how much I love her.

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Her movies are awesome.

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I love her as a writer, I love her

as a director, um, Well, I have

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Chris: seen it and I was shocked, so.

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Jerome: Yeah, so, I mean, so, I guess

when we see these films, when I see poor

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things, I already saw Oppenheimer, um, but

when I see Zone of Interest and Anatomy

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of a Fall, uh, maybe I can better decide?

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If Greta truly did get snubbed.

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I don't, right now it seems like

the sentiment is she got snubbed.

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The internet's blowing up,

everybody's blowing up.

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Chris: movie,

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Jerome: so.

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I mean, and that could be it,

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Chris: you know.

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why people are upset, so.

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Jerome: How, how can you have, but

then again, we're not the Grammys.

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People, forget about this, right?

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I mean, Beyonce has got how many Grammys?

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Right?

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Like, it's not, the Oscars

are not a popularity contest.

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It's not what made the most money.

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It isn't.

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I'm sorry to say, it's not

what made the most money.

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That's why you get movies like

Coda that win Best Picture and

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Parasite and people are like, I've

never even heard of that film!

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You know why?

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Because the Oscars honor Art.

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Yep.

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And they picked the best film of the year.

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Whether it made $200 million

or $2, they don't give a shit.

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It's what's the best film of the year.

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So yeah, Barbie was the most

popular film of the year.

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Made a shitload of money.

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Um, I have, but again,

I haven't seen it yet.

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I'm sitting here arguing for Greta Gerwig,

just because I think she's awesome.

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Um, but it was, I gotta say, it

was the first thing I noticed.

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Before you even showed me your text.

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Yeah.

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Or your, your message about the hate

that's going on the internet right now.

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Before I even saw any of that, I

looked at the list and was like,

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Where the fuck is, where's Greta?

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Like, that was the first thing

I thought, where's Greta in

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their best director category?

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Right.

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And then, and then to see Margot

got left off best actress.

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In a way, well no, I said, I realize I'm

contradicting myself, I said it wasn't

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as bad because at least she's in a

category filled with other women, right?

382

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Yeah, yeah.

383

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She wasn't, she wasn't snubbed

because she's a woman, right?

384

:

Um, but, having said that, uh, when you

do talk about the most popular film of

385

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the year, You have the lea What the fuck

are you doing with your backgrounds?

386

:

You guys can't see this

because he's, he's, we're on

387

:

I was trying to distract you.

388

:

The video, but he's like, playing

with these backgrounds, like he's

389

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got like some, I don't know, what

was that, South Park or something?

390

:

Like, I don't know what that one was.

391

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My

392

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Chris: god.

393

:

I had the palm tree because

I'm wearing Honolulu

394

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Jerome: blue.

395

:

We'll get to the lines in a minute.

396

:

Right now is Oscar time.

397

:

Let's talk about the Oscars.

398

:

Um, so when you see this list of

best actresses, first of all, again,

399

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very few movies of these I've seen.

400

:

Um, Emma Stone in Poor Things, I did

see, like I said, I saw the trailer.

401

:

It looked cool.

402

:

Maestro is Bradley Cooper's big

film, and I love Carey Mulligan.

403

:

You know who Carey Mulligan is.

404

:

What was my fa One of my

favorite shows that we did.

405

:

Right?

406

:

Promising Young Woman, where

we talked about Thelma and

407

:

Louise in Promising Young Woman.

408

:

Right, right, right.

409

:

Yeah, Carrie Mulligan was the Best Actress

nominee from Promising Young Woman.

410

:

Oh, right, right.

411

:

So, I love her.

412

:

I love her, too.

413

:

Um, but again, I gotta

see Anatomy of the Fall.

414

:

I haven't seen all these films.

415

:

I gotta know, did Margot

truly get snubbed?

416

:

I don't know.

417

:

Well, we got some homework to do, so We

got a lot of homework to do before we

418

:

truly say, because I will say First gut

reaction, it seems like snubs to me.

419

:

Um, but when you look at this

list and you say, Well shit man,

420

:

I gotta see some of these films.

421

:

We might be blown away.

422

:

This might be five knockout performances.

423

:

It could be.

424

:

It

425

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Chris: could be.

426

:

So, one of my kids said, They hope Ryan

Gosling gets up there and accepts it.

427

:

On the, like, Woman of the Year when

it was, uh, on the Parks and Rec.

428

:

Yeah.

429

:

Do you remember that?

430

:

Wasn't it Pawnee Woman of the

Year or something, and when

431

:

Ron Swanson won the award?

432

:

So.

433

:

Jerome: Now, let's move

to that real quick.

434

:

Let's go to Best Supporting

Actor, because, uh, same

435

:

collection of, of films here.

436

:

Flower, Killers of the

Flower Moon, De Niro.

437

:

He's in his 80s.

438

:

Another nomination.

439

:

Mm hmm.

440

:

Oppenheimer.

441

:

Robert Downey Jr.

442

:

Now that could be a popular pick.

443

:

Right?

444

:

Which, by the way, if you haven't

seen Oppenheimer, anyone that hasn't

445

:

seen it yet, Robert Downey Jr.

446

:

is amazing in this.

447

:

He is really good.

448

:

He is not, uh, Iron Man Avengers guy.

449

:

You know?

450

:

Excuse me.

451

:

Um, Mark Ruffalo.

452

:

Again, crowd favorite.

453

:

Sterling K.

454

:

Brown for American fiction.

455

:

I have not seen American fiction

yet either, but I saw the trailer.

456

:

I can't

457

:

Chris: wait to see that.

458

:

So I just, I just saw the trailer

today and I shared it with people

459

:

Jerome: at work.

460

:

It's hilarious.

461

:

And it looks hilarious.

462

:

It looks hilarious.

463

:

So I gotta see that Trump, right?

464

:

And I love Sterling K.

465

:

Chris: Brown's a great actor,

so I've seen him in a few

466

:

Jerome: different TV shows.

467

:

He did that mini miniseries, the

OJ Simpson miniseries, right?

468

:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

469

:

On on FX or E or whatever it was.

470

:

fx, I think.

471

:

Yep.

472

:

Um, where he played Darden, right?

473

:

He played Darden on that long miniseries.

474

:

Yep, he was fantastic in that.

475

:

And then, uh, to see Jeffrey Wright got

included, of course, for Best Actor.

476

:

I'm happy for him too, man.

477

:

I can't wait to see American Fiction.

478

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There's so many movies

I can't wait to see.

479

:

And I usually, like, throughout the year,

I'm always like, Yeah, I gotta see that.

480

:

Yeah, I gotta see that.

481

:

Yeah, I gotta see that.

482

:

And then today comes.

483

:

I know.

484

:

And now I'm like, I

got a month and a half.

485

:

And I gotta see all of this shit.

486

:

You know what I mean?

487

:

So, what do you do?

488

:

Do you end

489

:

Chris: up just buying them?

490

:

Cause sometimes you can't get them.

491

:

Jerome: You know what the funny thing is?

492

:

Back in the old days,

I went to the movies.

493

:

And when I was living in

Chicago, which was What do

494

:

Chris: I always say?

495

:

Support your local cinema and you don't?

496

:

That's right.

497

:

Jerome: Okay.

498

:

Number one, fuck off.

499

:

Number two Nobody supports

cinema more than I do.

500

:

And number three, it's so easy now with

streaming, everything is right there.

501

:

And, uh, I can knock all of these out.

502

:

gotta go to

503

:

Chris: the bathroom in a

three and a half hour movie.

504

:

Jerome: I could knock two

of these out in a night with

505

:

streaming, you know what I mean?

506

:

But yeah, back in the day

when it, uh, early days of L.

507

:

A.

508

:

and when I was living in

Chicago, there would be theaters

509

:

that played Oscar movies.

510

:

Like, even if it wasn't,

you know what I mean?

511

:

Like, uh, let me just pick one

of these, uh, smaller films.

512

:

Um, you know, I think The Holdovers

is actually already on DVD.

513

:

I saw it when I was at

Target the other day.

514

:

And I remember thinking, Oh,

that's that Paul Giamatti movie.

515

:

That looks pretty good.

516

:

And now I see it got a

shitload of nominations.

517

:

So, I should have bought the damn thing.

518

:

He's another guy,

519

:

Chris: man.

520

:

He's one of my all time favorite actors.

521

:

He's up there.

522

:

I like him.

523

:

Jerome: And this might be his year.

524

:

This might be his year, because

if you look at that race, let's

525

:

move to best actor for a moment.

526

:

And you've got him in the holdovers,

you've got, uh, Coleman Domingo in

527

:

Rustin, Cillian Murphy was amazing

in Oppenheimer, he might be the

528

:

frontrunner right now, just today.

529

:

Um, Jeffrey Wright in American

Fiction, happy for him, and

530

:

Bradley Cooper from Maestro.

531

:

I've been hearing a lot of people

say this is Bradley Cooper's year.

532

:

Ah, I don't, I don't know that.

533

:

Um, Well, I,

534

:

Chris: I sent you the trailer for

Maestro and, uh, I mean, just the

535

:

clips that they put in the trailer.

536

:

Obviously, I put the best in the trailer,

but he, he, it looks like he's, he's

537

:

made, done an amazing performance.

538

:

So, but yeah, I, I said we

should pair that one up with

539

:

like Amadeus or something.

540

:

Ooh.

541

:

Jerome: That'd be a good pairing.

542

:

pairings that I sent you?

543

:

You didn't like any, you didn't

respond to any of my pairings.

544

:

Well,

545

:

Chris: you sent them to

me, I was probably working

546

:

Jerome: or whatever.

547

:

I sent you a bunch of possible pairings

and you responded with nothing.

548

:

And I felt like the guy

from the Tiger King.

549

:

I called for help twice and not a fuck

you, what do you need, or nothing.

550

:

Anyway, alright, so.

551

:

So look at, again, so the

best actor race is packed.

552

:

Um, no Leo.

553

:

No Leo, and that's kind of big, you know,

because When we get into this Margo was

554

:

snubbed and Greta was snubbed, but then

you see Justine gets nominated for Best

555

:

Director Leo is left out of Best Actor.

556

:

You kind of say to yourself, maybe

it's not about snubbing Maybe they

557

:

really just went with the best and

Leo didn't make the cut this year.

558

:

Maybe his performance just wasn't

the best I can't say Greta truly got

559

:

snubbed until I see the other films.

560

:

Um, my, my belief is that she got snubbed.

561

:

I think the Academy disrespects

her because I think she's

562

:

got four nominations now?

563

:

She's got no Oscars.

564

:

Like, it's, I don't know man.

565

:

It's, it's, I think she's amazing and

she should definitely have a gold by now.

566

:

Um, I don't know, maybe she

wins Best Adapted Screenplay.

567

:

You know, because when people,

that's the other thing that happens.

568

:

When people see this.

569

:

And now it's time to actually vote on it.

570

:

You might get enough people in

Hollywood going this is bullshit.

571

:

She should have been included We are

giving her best adapted screenplay,

572

:

you know like it or not Spike Lee won

best adapted screenplay finally got

573

:

his oscar Remember that a few years

ago when he finally got his you know

574

:

that the academy voters were like dude.

575

:

It's time.

576

:

It's time He's due.

577

:

Spike Lee's been around forever.

578

:

He's been nominated a bunch of times.

579

:

Sure, he's, he could be polarizing

with his opinions or politics, but

580

:

he's, that was the, that was one of

the best films of the year that year.

581

:

He was definitely deserving

of, of best adapted screenplay.

582

:

Maybe they give it to Greta this

year as sort of a, you deserve

583

:

this because we fucked you over

by not giving you best director.

584

:

So I don't know, maybe she

does walk away with the gold.

585

:

She's definitely deserving of it.

586

:

She should definitely

have an Oscar by now.

587

:

Um, I don't know, I'm just

scrolling through this list here.

588

:

And, and, the good news is it doesn't

look like I have a lot of work to do.

589

:

It's like, it's like most of

these nominations are spread

590

:

out around five movies.

591

:

Like if I just see, like, five movies,

I'm gonna have almost all of these

592

:

categories, uh, pretty much cleaned up.

593

:

So yeah, I got a lot of work to

do before, uh, the end of March.

594

:

Uh, I don't know which category

you want to go to next.

595

:

Let's go to the writing categories.

596

:

I love when I ask you a question

and then I answer it myself.

597

:

Let's see here.

598

:

Makes my job easier.

599

:

It's just me monopolizing

the, the, the microphone here.

600

:

Um Where is it?

601

:

Okay, so, uh, obviously I have

a special place in my heart for

602

:

the writing categories, right?

603

:

Um, I'm always big on the,

the screenplay awards.

604

:

Um, so Adaptive Screenplay, you got

American Fiction, Barbie, Oppenheimer,

605

:

Poor Things, Zone of Interest.

606

:

Again, we see just a few of

these films and we'll have

607

:

knocked out that entire category.

608

:

Original Screenplay, Anatomy

of Fall, Holdovers, Maestro,

609

:

uh, May, December, Past Lives.

610

:

Being that everybody I know is

talking about both the Holdovers and

611

:

Maestro, maybe Bradley Cooper gets

his Oscar in the writing category.

612

:

Hmm.

613

:

That is a possibility.

614

:

Yeah, cause,

615

:

Chris: and,

616

:

Jerome: he, did he write it?

617

:

Yeah, he's the writer.

618

:

He's one of them.

619

:

Cause he directed it too, right?

620

:

Yeah, I think he, he, he's a co

writer, I don't know, let's look it up.

621

:

Co writer, I know he directed

it, and obviously Star.

622

:

I could see

623

:

Chris: them getting makeup

and hairstyling too.

624

:

Cause did you see the various

versions of the Maestro?

625

:

Yes.

626

:

The younger version, the older version.

627

:

And it's all Bradley Cooper.

628

:

And they look frickin

629

:

Jerome: amazing.

630

:

So he wrote it with Josh Singer.

631

:

Um, uh, Josh Singer is, uh,

some of his previous credits.

632

:

He was a Oh my god, he's

got some really good ones.

633

:

Aside from 22 episodes of The

West Wing, he also has Spotlight,

634

:

The Post, First Man, Who is this?

635

:

This is Josh Singer, the one who wrote,

uh, Maestro with, with Bradley Cooper.

636

:

So, Bradley Cooper's obviously a

smart dude, because he got this dude

637

:

to write the screenplay with him.

638

:

Now, I don't know whose

original story it was.

639

:

It might have been Cooper's.

640

:

He could have gone to him and said, look,

I got this great idea, uh, to do a biopic.

641

:

Um I need your help, though.

642

:

You know what I mean?

643

:

Yeah.

644

:

Um, Nothin wrong with that.

645

:

Nothin wrong with that.

646

:

If you want to be the best, hire the best.

647

:

So, um, yeah.

648

:

So, man, that's, that's Bradley Cooper

could get his, uh, hang on a second.

649

:

Let me go back again and see if

Josh won for any of those films.

650

:

I know he was up for Spotlight.

651

:

He did, won one Oscar.

652

:

Let me guess, Spotlight.

653

:

Uh, yep.

654

:

So he won the Oscar.

655

:

Rest of the original

screenplay for Spotlight.

656

:

Um, well, God, what an amazing film.

657

:

Now that's the one that

moms refuse to watch.

658

:

Um, but I showed her a clip last night.

659

:

I showed her Mark Ruffalo's Oscar clip.

660

:

Yeah.

661

:

You know, from that movie.

662

:

It's time, Robbie!

663

:

You know, the big, you know, the,

the, the, you know, the kind of, the

664

:

kind of scene where when the movie's

going, you just see at the bottom,

665

:

it's flashing, like, Oscar clip.

666

:

Oscar clip.

667

:

You know?

668

:

So I showed mom that last night and she's

like, maybe I will watch it, you know?

669

:

So, who knows?

670

:

But uh, so he won for that.

671

:

So, okay, so Josh Singer has an

Oscar, um, does that keep that

672

:

from winning that category?

673

:

I don't know.

674

:

Or they say, Bradley Cooper, we loved

you, but we think somebody else, like we,

675

:

Giamatti's turn for best actor, right?

676

:

He's been He's been

overlooked so many times.

677

:

It's time for Paul

Giamatti to get his Oscar.

678

:

So we're not going to give you best actor,

but maybe we'll give you best screenplay.

679

:

You know, I know I'm contradicting

myself a little bit when I say the

680

:

Oscars are not like the Grammys.

681

:

They don't do popularity awards.

682

:

They give the best.

683

:

Whoever the best performance is.

684

:

Hang on, my brother is gonna pour

straight vodka into this glass.

685

:

This barbie drink is pretty good.

686

:

Sounds like that gray goose is pissing.

687

:

That is a big Sam's Club

bottle of gray goose.

688

:

We sell that at CVS, by the way.

689

:

Oh really?

690

:

The big one?

691

:

The big one.

692

:

So, um, I know like I was saying,

it's not about popularity, it's

693

:

whoever, it's who the best film

is, who deserves it the most.

694

:

But there is a level of politics,

I'm not gonna deny that.

695

:

You know, Al Pacino wins Best Actor

for Son of a Woman not because he

696

:

was the Best Performance of the Year.

697

:

It's because he got out of SOMEHOW!

698

:

Somehow, on God's green earth, he

got out of the decade of the 70s

699

:

without a single fuckin Oscar.

700

:

That is an atrocious That,

that doesn't make sense.

701

:

So, so that's, you know, so that's

why he wins for Son of a Woman.

702

:

We see this shit all the time.

703

:

Politics plays a part, right?

704

:

Denzel wins for Training Day.

705

:

That's not his best performance.

706

:

It's certainly not the best

performance of the year.

707

:

But he didn't get it for Malcolm X,

and he didn't get it for the hurricane.

708

:

So, you know what I mean?

709

:

So there are, there are

some politics at play here.

710

:

Um So I gotta say, if they're gonna

give Bradley Cooper an Oscar this year,

711

:

it might be in the writing category.

712

:

They did the same thing with

Tarantino, with Pulp Fiction.

713

:

They were like, uh, we don't, uh, you're

not Best Director or Best Picture, yet.

714

:

Uh, but we'll give you a screenplay.

715

:

You know?

716

:

Maybe.

717

:

I could see that happening.

718

:

Could be one of those.

719

:

Could be one of those.

720

:

Uh, but yeah, thumbing through

this list, I still can't believe,

721

:

um You know, you know there's

going to be a counter argument.

722

:

There's always the first day of

huge backlash, and then in like four

723

:

days from now Somebody's gonna write

an article saying, Folks, Barbie

724

:

might not just have been that good.

725

:

And then everyone's gonna

go, Berserker, right?

726

:

They're gonna lose their minds.

727

:

But then you're gonna get more

people agreeing with that.

728

:

Saying, yeah, let's call it what it is.

729

:

It's good, but it's not

up here with these movies.

730

:

You know, so who knows?

731

:

I don't know.

732

:

You're going to get a backlash,

you're going to get, uh, you're

733

:

going to get backlash and then

the backlash for the backlash.

734

:

And then

735

:

Chris: Which is going to fuel

every bit of media that it probably

736

:

Jerome: deserves.

737

:

Which, let's be honest, that's

only good for the Academy, it's

738

:

only good for movies, right?

739

:

Because now, now it's going to

force people to see the movie

740

:

if they hadn't already, right?

741

:

Maybe.

742

:

Maybe.

743

:

Chris: I think some people made up

their mind that they didn't want to

744

:

see Barbie because it's something they

heard on a Reddit thread or something.

745

:

Jerome: I heard somebody

call it a woke film.

746

:

I don't even know if they

know what that means.

747

:

I know.

748

:

It's dumb.

749

:

So, the way people throw that word

around now and it has no meaning

750

:

to what they think it means.

751

:

We're probably

752

:

Chris: going to cover Barbie, so I'll

cover that when we do that one, that

753

:

Jerome: episode.

754

:

Yeah, we are definitely, yes.

755

:

Folks, folks, I will tell you,

Barbie is on our docket for:

756

:

We just don't know what yet to

pair it with, because it seems

757

:

like an un pairable movie.

758

:

We don't know.

759

:

I mean, we could

760

:

Chris: do a special episode.

761

:

We've done

762

:

Jerome: before, so.

763

:

We have done one before.

764

:

Um, but, uh, so I sent my

brother a couple of, Combos.

765

:

A couple of pairing possibilities.

766

:

Oscar Films paired with other Oscar

Films and he responded with silence.

767

:

So I'm going to ask you folks, why don't

you send us an email or post on our

768

:

page if you want to see any of these.

769

:

By the way, I'm going to cancel

the last one because the Iron

770

:

Claw got zero nominations.

771

:

Wow.

772

:

I don't know if it didn't make,

uh, if it wasn't eligible.

773

:

Like, did it not make the criteria

cut as far as when it was released?

774

:

I don't know.

775

:

Or it just got snubbed.

776

:

It got completely snubbed.

777

:

I thought that, um, the dude that played

the Texas Tornado, Kerry Von Eric,

778

:

uh, the guy from, uh, Uh, Shameless.

779

:

Uh, what's his name?

780

:

Uh, Jeffrey, Jeffrey,

uh, Jeremy, Jeremy White?

781

:

Jeremy Allen White?

782

:

Is that it?

783

:

Did I screw that up?

784

:

I thought for sure, people were talking

about him getting nominated for Best

785

:

Supporting Actor for The Iron Claw.

786

:

Uh, cause he was really good.

787

:

But, uh, it didn't happen.

788

:

So I don't know.

789

:

Let me see.

790

:

I have to look it up cause I don't want to

be I don't want to screw this guy's name.

791

:

Jeremy Allen White.

792

:

Isn't that what I said?

793

:

Wasn't my final version?

794

:

I went through several versions,

Jeremy, but I got you on the last one.

795

:

Alright, so.

796

:

Here were some, uh, I'll start

with that last one since we're

797

:

probably not going to do it now

that Iron Claw didn't get nominated.

798

:

I thought Iron Claw vs.

799

:

Raging Bull.

800

:

Right?

801

:

Now if the Iron Claw had gotten a bunch of

nominations, that would be two films about

802

:

like, life inside and outside of the ring.

803

:

And how your profession

affects your personal life.

804

:

Mm hmm.

805

:

And how tragic both of those stories are.

806

:

Now, The Raging Bull is more centered on

one person, and, and, uh, The Iron Claw

807

:

was more based on a family of brothers.

808

:

Um, but they really seem to be

parallel to me, and I thought

809

:

that would be a great matchup.

810

:

But now The Iron Claw

didn't get nominated.

811

:

We can still do it, but, you know, for

Oscar time, we like to do Oscar movies.

812

:

Then I thought, Killers

of the Flower Moon vs.

813

:

Dances with Wolves.

814

:

What do you think about that?

815

:

This is about, like, the white man

forcing the natives right off their land.

816

:

Eh, that'd be a good pairing.

817

:

I haven't seen Dances with Wolves.

818

:

That's like 24 hours of movie

watching right there though.

819

:

I know, man.

820

:

God.

821

:

Chris: No doubt.

822

:

Yeah, because Dances with Wolves is three

823

:

Jerome: hours, isn't it?

824

:

That's like, yeah, three plus.

825

:

So it's like, man, if you get,

especially if you get the director's gut.

826

:

Oh my god.

827

:

So, uh, yeah, we, I mean, that

would be a long beat sheet.

828

:

That's a full shift of work.

829

:

That would be a beat

sheet from hell, dude.

830

:

That would be, Blake Snyder would

be rolling over in his grave.

831

:

Rest in peace, God love you.

832

:

Um, and he'd be like, dude, the beat sheet

for those two movies must be amazing.

833

:

Chris: Honestly, maybe some of these,

I mean, that's a really long movie.

834

:

Maybe we give that its own episode.

835

:

Jerome: I don't know.

836

:

Movies, uh, both of them.

837

:

Oh, you mean if we

838

:

Chris: just did another

special Oscar episode.

839

:

Jerome: Um, and then.

840

:

Oppenheimer versus the social

network, which I thought was

841

:

another really good pairing.

842

:

Social network was an Oscar

darling and it's two films about

843

:

real people who changed the world

with a polarizing invention.

844

:

I think we could argue that the atomic

bomb and Facebook, Facebook and the atomic

845

:

bomb are two polarizing inventions, right?

846

:

Um, that have changed the world.

847

:

They both have changed the world.

848

:

You can't argue that.

849

:

That's true.

850

:

And they're not biopics where we hear

about their upbringing and how they died.

851

:

It's just about their invention.

852

:

It's important to know

these are not biographies.

853

:

Oppenheimer and Social Network

are films about their invention.

854

:

And they're invention only.

855

:

So, um, so I thought that

was a really good pairing.

856

:

So, you know, anyone

that's listening, write us.

857

:

Let us know also what you think.

858

:

A good pairing for Barbie would be.

859

:

I, now again, I hadn't seen it.

860

:

But just knowing that it's sort of a

satire, and it seems to be not really

861

:

for kids, it seems to actually have adult

humor involved, and it has deep meaning.

862

:

This is all I'm getting from the trailer,

by the way, from what people have said.

863

:

I thought Josie and the Pussycats.

864

:

Because that was a fun movie from, I

s, early:

865

:

I have no idea what you're talking about.

866

:

So it was, I, I want to say it was

either a cartoon or a comic strip

867

:

that they adapted into a movie.

868

:

And people thought the same

thing that they do about Barbie.

869

:

Oh, this is going to be for kids.

870

:

But it wasn't.

871

:

It was like, it was totally

about, uh, the media and how

872

:

the media manipulates people.

873

:

And it was a satire.

874

:

Yeah, yeah.

875

:

Uh, which was filled with

a lot of adult themes.

876

:

Which was, I never would have

saw it in a million years.

877

:

But the girl I was dating at the

time loved it and made me watch it.

878

:

And I actually enjoyed it.

879

:

I was like, this is

actually kind of funny.

880

:

This is like ripping on, uh,

pop culture of our time, how we

881

:

treat celebrities and superstars.

882

:

Right.

883

:

And it kind of was, again, a satire

on, on, uh, uh, popular, you know,

884

:

uh, just the, the generation that

we live in today's youth and how

885

:

easily manipulated people can be.

886

:

I've never seen it.

887

:

Um,

888

:

Chris: what's it called again?

889

:

I'm going to look it

890

:

Jerome: up.

891

:

Josie and the Pussycats.

892

:

There's probably people

listening who go, What the fuck?

893

:

He's gone off the deep end on this one.

894

:

Uh, yeah, there it is.

895

:

2001.

896

:

Okay, so 2001 and it's starring Rachel

Leigh Cook, Tara Reid, Rosario Dawson.

897

:

Um, a couple other people of the

time, Alan Cumming, when I say of the

898

:

time, they were huge at that time.

899

:

Uh, Parker Posey, Carson Daly's in it

playing him, he has a satire where he

900

:

makes fun of himself on his own show.

901

:

So like, all this kind of stuff.

902

:

Chris: I totally missed, this

was off of my radar for sure.

903

:

Yeah,

904

:

Jerome: it's uh, yeah it's about a

girl group, it's about a girl group.

905

:

But again, I don't know what it

was originally based off of, it

906

:

was a comic strip or a cartoon.

907

:

Let me go to the writing

categories and see.

908

:

Five writers, oh my gosh, but,

but, but it could have been,

909

:

yeah, okay, so it says character.

910

:

So three of them were characters.

911

:

Only two people wrote the screenplay.

912

:

But so these characters, I don't

know, I guess we'd have to Google it.

913

:

What was Josie and the

Pussycats originally?

914

:

Uh, oh, it looks like an animated TV show.

915

:

It was an animated TV show.

916

:

Oh, yeah.

917

:

Oh, from 1970.

918

:

Yeah,

919

:

Chris: on IMDb, I just, it's

right there under the movie.

920

:

Oh, is it?

921

:

Yeah, an IMDb.

922

:

Oh, okay.

923

:

Under more like this.

924

:

Jerome: So, it was a

TV series from the 70s.

925

:

Wow.

926

:

So, that's what it originally was.

927

:

Okay.

928

:

So, when I, you know, again.

929

:

When I was asked to see, uh, it from the

girl I was dating at the time, I remember

930

:

thinking, this, why would I want to,

this looks like a movie for little girls.

931

:

This is like a movie

for like 10 year olds.

932

:

Not that I was dating a little girl.

933

:

Let's, let's clarify that.

934

:

Right?

935

:

Clarify that.

936

:

I was dating an adult woman, but

it didn't look like a movie for me.

937

:

But then when I watched

it, I was blown away.

938

:

I was like, this is

actually kind of funny.

939

:

This is a satire.

940

:

This makes fun of today's youth.

941

:

Right?

942

:

And how easily manipulated people are.

943

:

So when I heard that Barbie was

kind of a satire of, you know,

944

:

our culture, I immediately thought

that would be a good pairing.

945

:

So, I don't know, watch the trailer

on YouTube and tell me what you think.

946

:

Yeah, well, and you watch Barbie.

947

:

Yes, and you guys, and you guys,

anyone that's listening, if you think

948

:

there's a better film that would be a

good pairing for Barbie, let us know.

949

:

Because we definitely are doing Barbie.

950

:

I don't care.

951

:

We're gonna do Barbie.

952

:

We're gonna do a show on Barbie.

953

:

And I would like to pair it with

something, but if we have to do a

954

:

solo show, we'll do a solo show.

955

:

The only other thing I can say is that,

um, we did fill out the full boat.

956

:

Again, a full ten for Best Picture, which

means there's some work to do for me.

957

:

But oddly enough, it's all the films

we talked about that are got these now.

958

:

Zone of Interest, Poor Things,

Oppenheimer, Maestro, Killers of

959

:

the Flower Moon, The Holdovers.

960

:

Barbie, Anatomy of a

Fall, American Fiction.

961

:

The only other one that's in there

that doesn't seem to be nominated for

962

:

hardly anything else is this Past Lives,

which I don't know what that is either.

963

:

But it doesn't seem to

have that I can see.

964

:

Any other nominations.

965

:

So I don't even know what it's about.

966

:

It's another one I haven't

seen, but it got the 10th spot.

967

:

Yeah.

968

:

Um, uh, just looking it up real quick.

969

:

Past lives, uh, so what is this?

970

:

This looks like, um,

is this a foreign film?

971

:

No.

972

:

Nora and Haesung, uh, two deeply connected

childhood friends, are r r rested apart?

973

:

Rested apart?

974

:

After Nora's family

emigrates from South Korea.

975

:

20 years later, they are reunited

for one fateful week as they

976

:

confront notions of love and destiny.

977

:

Interesting.

978

:

I might check this out.

979

:

Hour and 45 minutes, PG 13, 2023.

980

:

Looks like a quick view.

981

:

It was nominated for For two Oscars.

982

:

So aside from Best Picture, the

only other nomination it got

983

:

is Best Original Screenplay.

984

:

So Celine Song, uh, wrote the

film and she also directed it.

985

:

She is not one of the producers, so

she didn't get a producing nomination.

986

:

But, those are the only two Oscars it got.

987

:

So, again, let me preface

this by saying this is by no

988

:

means an insult to past lives.

989

:

But did you have to fill out the full ten?

990

:

Like, couldn't you have the other

nine I mentioned are loaded in

991

:

the other categories, right?

992

:

All of them.

993

:

Loaded.

994

:

Past Lives gets two nominations.

995

:

One of them's for screenplay,

one of them's best picture.

996

:

I don't know.

997

:

Again, I just preface this, but I'm

not trying to be insulting, but if

998

:

you were gonna leave a film out, uh,

like, did they just do ten because

999

:

they felt, well, we could do up to ten.

:

00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:36,150

Let's just do ten.

:

00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:36,940

Right.

:

00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:37,910

You know what I mean?

:

00:40:38,210 --> 00:40:39,110

Like, I don't know.

:

00:40:40,060 --> 00:40:44,290

Maybe I'm being a dick, but if that was

me if that was me, I, I guess on one

:

00:40:44,290 --> 00:40:46,830

hand I'd be happy I got nominated, but

the other hand I'd be like I'm gonna

:

00:40:46,830 --> 00:40:48,080

sit home and watch this from my couch.

:

00:40:48,350 --> 00:40:49,410

I got no shot.

:

00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:51,709

I got no shot to win Best Picture here.

:

00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:52,119

You know what I mean?

:

00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:53,680

Like, what the fuck?

:

00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:56,610

There's, there's literally I

have no path to glory on this.

:

00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,410

I'm gonna sit home, watch it

on my couch, and get drunk.

:

00:40:59,440 --> 00:40:59,920

Chris: Bullshit.

:

00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:00,770

You would be there

:

00:41:01,149 --> 00:41:01,609

Jerome: 100%.

:

00:41:01,649 --> 00:41:03,180

I know I'm a fucking liar.

:

00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:05,710

I would be so, I would be dressed up.

:

00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:09,660

I, I would, I would be dressed

up in one of the tuxes that the

:

00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:11,079

guys wear in Dumb and Dumber.

:

00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:12,750

That, uh, Jim Carrey.

:

00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:13,340

Except you have a

:

00:41:13,340 --> 00:41:14,990

Chris: Honolulu Blue Lions

:

00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:15,430

Jerome: tie.

:

00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,940

Yeah, well mine would be Jim

Carrey's blue, uh, tuxedo.

:

00:41:19,319 --> 00:41:21,170

But it would be Honolulu

Blue for the Lions.

:

00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:24,800

So, before we close out, we

are gonna, uh, Let's transition

:

00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,050

real quick off of past lives.

:

00:41:26,050 --> 00:41:27,010

No offense, past lives.

:

00:41:27,010 --> 00:41:27,580

I'm just saying.

:

00:41:27,580 --> 00:41:28,330

Two nominations.

:

00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,180

I don't know.

:

00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,350

Um, but anyway.

:

00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:32,830

Um, the Lions.

:

00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,280

Yeah.

:

00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,370

We have to talk about the

Detroit Lions real quick.

:

00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:39,049

At the time, my brother's gonna put

this up, hopefully before Sunday, right?

:

00:41:39,070 --> 00:41:40,710

This is going up, like, today or tomorrow.

:

00:41:41,370 --> 00:41:42,170

Yeah, it should go up

:

00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:42,610

Chris: pretty quick.

:

00:41:42,610 --> 00:41:43,840

I'm gonna do very little editing.

:

00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:47,220

Jerome: So, as we speak right now,

the Detroit Lions have done something

:

00:41:47,220 --> 00:41:51,399

they have not done since:

that was win a playoff game, and now

:

00:41:51,399 --> 00:41:53,939

they're going to the NFC title game.

:

00:41:53,970 --> 00:41:54,620

Yes.

:

00:41:56,909 --> 00:42:00,560

Where we are going to face the

number one seed, San Francisco 49ers.

:

00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,690

We are not favored at all.

:

00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:03,070

No.

:

00:42:03,070 --> 00:42:04,650

The 49ers are favored by seven.

:

00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:05,900

Not favored at all.

:

00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:07,840

Which is a, that's a touchdown.

:

00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,220

That's a lot of points in the FC title.

:

00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:09,740

I will say,

:

00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,750

Chris: I will say we have a much better

team than the last time we met them.

:

00:42:14,530 --> 00:42:15,090

Jerome: Absolutely.

:

00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:16,269

Absolutely.

:

00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:18,950

It was then, but then again, so do they.

:

00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:27,110

So do they, they are picked by

many to win the whole thing.

:

00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:29,350

Um, but so, okay.

:

00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:29,970

So what?

:

00:42:30,010 --> 00:42:32,470

Green Bay almost knocked

them off last week.

:

00:42:32,610 --> 00:42:32,840

Yep.

:

00:42:33,090 --> 00:42:34,410

So maybe they're a little shaky.

:

00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,699

Chris: And I gotta tell you, man,

this, this coach, he's inspired

:

00:42:38,699 --> 00:42:41,269

a whole city, a whole region.

:

00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:44,180

I mean, every Lions fan

everywhere loves this guy.

:

00:42:44,770 --> 00:42:45,070

Absolutely.

:

00:42:45,310 --> 00:42:48,299

He's, and most importantly,

he's inspired the players.

:

00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:49,590

They trust him.

:

00:42:49,630 --> 00:42:50,950

That's, that's the most important thing.

:

00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:53,160

They're 100 percent bought into his plan.

:

00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:55,060

And it's, it's palpable.

:

00:42:55,110 --> 00:42:58,310

It's like watching, watching

them feed off each other.

:

00:42:58,310 --> 00:42:59,139

It's amazing.

:

00:42:59,230 --> 00:42:59,550

Absolutely.

:

00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,389

Jerome: These guys, these guys

would run through a brick wall for

:

00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:03,750

this coach if you asked them to.

:

00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:07,159

When I hear him talk, I told

my buddy Mark Hughes this.

:

00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000

I said, when this guy talks

in the postgame locker room, I

:

00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,604

want to go out and fight him.

:

00:43:10,605 --> 00:43:16,905

Fight a tree, like he just gets you fired

:

00:43:16,935 --> 00:43:17,155

Chris: up.

:

00:43:17,235 --> 00:43:18,725

You know what I did today?

:

00:43:18,725 --> 00:43:21,814

I've been trying to, you know, you

know, I've been trying to work out

:

00:43:21,814 --> 00:43:25,435

and stuff and I go on and off at the

treadmill and, you know, it's typical,

:

00:43:25,755 --> 00:43:29,445

but, uh, when I get in a groove, I

usually find something to help me along,

:

00:43:29,455 --> 00:43:31,985

you know, today I found my new thing.

:

00:43:31,995 --> 00:43:36,285

So my new thing is to watch the

recap of last Sunday's game.

:

00:43:36,325 --> 00:43:39,124

It's the recap video where

it's like 20 minutes long.

:

00:43:39,350 --> 00:43:40,400

Yeah, it skips out all the commercials and

:

00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:40,789

Jerome: shit.

:

00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:44,140

Chris: Oh my god, so I'm on

the treadmill just freakin

:

00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:45,710

Jerome: killin it, like, yeah!

:

00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:49,720

You look down and this whole

time you've been jogging at 8.

:

00:43:49,899 --> 00:43:52,249

0 instead of your regular 4.

:

00:43:52,250 --> 00:43:52,279

0.

:

00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:52,479

No,

:

00:43:52,479 --> 00:43:53,400

Chris: it's great, man.

:

00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:54,789

It's just a lot of fun.

:

00:43:55,075 --> 00:43:58,705

Jerome: So, yeah, um, yeah, so,

uh, I know we're mixing movies with

:

00:43:58,705 --> 00:44:00,485

sports here, but we are from Detroit.

:

00:44:00,525 --> 00:44:05,305

Chris: We're alienating a lot of our

audience that, you know, if, well, at this

:

00:44:05,315 --> 00:44:08,715

point, you gotta be from San Francisco to

not to be rooting for the Lions, right?

:

00:44:08,715 --> 00:44:09,484

Maybe Green Bay.

:

00:44:09,845 --> 00:44:12,575

Jerome: Well, no, no, no, no, no,

no, I saw, I was just gonna tell you.

:

00:44:13,045 --> 00:44:16,785

Um, I saw this map, this voting

map, not really a voting map.

:

00:44:16,785 --> 00:44:18,520

A cheering, popular cheering map, yeah.

:

00:44:18,525 --> 00:44:18,675

Yeah.

:

00:44:18,675 --> 00:44:19,335

On the internet.

:

00:44:19,635 --> 00:44:22,845

And it had, uh, the state

of California was in red.

:

00:44:22,935 --> 00:44:23,355

Yeah.

:

00:44:23,355 --> 00:44:23,356

Yeah.

:

00:44:23,535 --> 00:44:27,285

And the entire rest of the

country was in blue . And

:

00:44:27,285 --> 00:44:29,115

they're like, this is everybody.

:

00:44:29,115 --> 00:44:32,000

If you live in California,

particularly San Francisco area,

:

00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:33,765

you're rooting for the Niners.

:

00:44:33,975 --> 00:44:36,735

Literally every other state

is rooting for the lions.

:

00:44:36,835 --> 00:44:39,785

So, uh, it's great that we

finally have a fan base.

:

00:44:39,785 --> 00:44:41,645

We finally have, well,

we always had a fan base.

:

00:44:41,645 --> 00:44:45,434

We've always had a great fan base, but

those were diehard fans like us, right?

:

00:44:45,434 --> 00:44:47,615

We finally have people from like Utah.

:

00:44:47,635 --> 00:44:49,055

They're like, yeah, go lions.

:

00:44:49,055 --> 00:44:49,554

You know what I mean?

:

00:44:49,575 --> 00:44:51,645

Like people that never gave a shit before.

:

00:44:51,655 --> 00:44:52,765

I told this to dad.

:

00:44:53,175 --> 00:44:55,859

I ran in to get beer at the Save Mart.

:

00:44:56,220 --> 00:44:56,500

Yeah.

:

00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:58,240

And I was wearing my Lions hat.

:

00:44:58,790 --> 00:45:02,700

And, uh, because I work in the store close

to that store, I know all the cashiers.

:

00:45:03,110 --> 00:45:06,059

So I get in there and I start talking to

the cashier and I'm like, Hey, I was like,

:

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hey, did you watch the game yesterday?

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The Lions won, we're going

to the NFC title game.

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Four people in line.

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Complete strangers.

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We're all, I'm so happy for you guys!

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I watched that game!

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Go Lions!

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I hope they win the whole thing!

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And I'm like, I don't even

fucking know these people.

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And that's great.

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So we're finally, uh, we're

finally getting some recognition.

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It's nice to see.

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It's a really good feeling.

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And I hope we just don't, I know

the players aren't, but I don't want

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to just be happy with where we got.

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Like, I think that we can win this week.

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It's difficult.

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We would need a lot of breaks to

go our way and we have to play

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practically flawless football.

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Dude, if we can win

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Chris: this week, we can win in Vegas.

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Jerome: See, normally, I would

agree with you, because a lot of

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times, it's the game before the game

that's the bigger battle, right?

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Like, like Michigan, uh, for

those of you who don't, we

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just said we're from Michigan.

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Michigan won the national title

this year in college football.

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And the game before the game

was the more important one.

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Beating Alabama in overtime to get to the

championship game was far more important.

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We, I mean, we handled it.

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Well,

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Chris: it's kind of like the Red Wings

back in the day when it was Playing

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the Colorado Avalanche to go to

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Jerome: the Stanley Cup.

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Absolutely.

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Whoever won that was going

to win the whole thing.

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So it was like our toughest

battle was always the Avalanche

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in the conference finals.

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We saw it with Miracle

on Ice back in:

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The Team USA had to get by the Russians.

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That was the semifinal game.

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Yeah.

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That wasn't even the finals.

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Nobody talks about the finals!

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Nobody gives a shit about I

don't even know who we beat.

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Was it Finland or something?

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Nobody even knows.

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Like, nobody cares.

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The fact that we beat the

Russians in the semifinal.

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So, normally I would agree with you.

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Yes, we get by San Fran.

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We could win the whole thing.

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But, the two teams waiting for us on the

other side are also pretty big badasses.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, we are We are seriously

the fourth ranked out of the four left.

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Yeah, 100%.

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So, it's an uphill battle no matter what.

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Chris: I tell ya, every game,

it seems like Campbell has had

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him more and more dialed in.

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It's been, this is the perfect

time of the season to turn it on.

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And we would have been

going into this probably 14.

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Right?

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14 wins.

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We went in, what did we go in, 13?

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Um,

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Jerome: the record.

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We were, we were 12 5 was the,

our regular season record.

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Chris: Oh, what am I thinking?

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Oh, I'm talking, I'm adding the other wins

from the playoffs now, for the season.

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Oh,

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Jerome: yes.

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Yeah, so now it's, it's 14 now, 14.

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Yeah, so we would,

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Chris: we would have 15 if it

wasn't for that, uh, missed call.

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Jerome: We're not going to

talk about the Dallas game.

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Let's not

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Chris: talk about the Dallas game.

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I know, we beat them, we

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00:47:37,210 --> 00:47:39,160

Jerome: beat them, and We beat

them, we know it, they know it.

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They

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Chris: know it.

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And then they're

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00:47:40,985 --> 00:47:42,145

Jerome: lost, they lost, so.

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00:47:42,305 --> 00:47:47,145

Yeah, but, yeah, so, I mean, I don't

know, I heard somebody on the radios

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today say, you only have to win by one.

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You just have to win.

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00:47:49,834 --> 00:47:50,155

Why are we, we

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00:47:50,155 --> 00:47:51,724

Chris: totally turned this

into a sports podcast.

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00:47:51,975 --> 00:47:52,965

We did, we did.

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00:47:52,965 --> 00:47:56,154

Jerome: We should, we should, we

should title this Oscar nominations.

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Football recap.

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00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,280

But seriously, you only have to wait.

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00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,030

What did the guy say?

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00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,960

He said you just have to

have one more point than

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Chris: your opponent.

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And you know what?

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I'm going to leave all this

in because, you know what?

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If you love our show,

you're going to love us.

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We love lions.

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It's part

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00:48:12,068 --> 00:48:12,949

Jerome: of the package.

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The lions deserve it.

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They deserve us talking about them.

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They deserve us talking about

them on an Oscar nomination show.

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00:48:18,330 --> 00:48:20,079

Chris: Right?

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So, all right.

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00:48:20,579 --> 00:48:24,629

I hope we get to, I hope we get to

look back and, uh, and, and say, oh

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00:48:24,629 --> 00:48:28,313

man, I don't know I can't believe

they won it all, and here we were.

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00:48:28,313 --> 00:48:29,280

We had no idea.

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00:48:30,610 --> 00:48:30,900

Jerome: Exactly.

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Alright, let's land the plane.

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00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:35,840

Chris: Well, it's 5 o'clock somewhere.

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00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,119

No, it's not.

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00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:37,270

It's ridiculous.

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00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:40,119

Oh, it's happy hour somewhere.

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00:48:40,750 --> 00:48:40,940

No.

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Jerome: Oh.

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Keep watching and keep drinking.

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Keep

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Chris: watching, keep drinking.

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Go support your local cinemas.

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Born and raised in Metro Detroit, Michigan. Graduate of Columbia College Chicago with a degree in Film/Screenwriting. Have lived in California since 2001. I enjoy screenwriting, script consulting and film analysis.
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