Episode 11

Behind the Scenes: 2023 Review

Year-End Podcast Episode: Reflecting on Film Analysis in 2023 and Looking Ahead to 2024

In this sprawling year-end episode of the Silver Screen Happy Hour podcast, Chris and Jerome review their past shows, exploring the cinematic analysis they've undertaken throughout 2023. They acknowledge a learning curve in learning to edit video and audio, citing the progression from experimenting with video to being able to release a monthly episode. They reminisce about some of their favorite episodes such as Ethan Hawke Day, Union Solidarity, and the episode featuring Walk the Line & Elvis, and Silence of the Midsommar.

They also speak candidly about personal triumphs and challenges experienced during the year, including welcoming a new grandchild! In terms of future plans, the hosts look forward to producing more content in 2024, with a focus on films relating to events and holidays, and intend to cover potential Oscar-winning films during the awards season. They also encourage listener interaction and feedback.

00:06 Introduction and Welcome

00:19 Looking Back at 2023 and Ahead to 2024

00:28 Thanking Supporters and Reflecting on the Journey

00:46 Reminiscing About the First Episodes

01:28 The Star Wars Era

02:02 Reflecting on 2023 and the Growth of the Show

02:54 Celebrating Personal Milestones

03:16 Looking Ahead to Future Episodes

04:40 Deep Dive into Ethan Hawke Day

07:54 Exploring the Themes of Walk the Elvis

10:33 Discussing Union Solidarity in Norma Rae and Hoffa

18:01 Analyzing Silence of the Midsommar

23:06 Listener Response and Interaction

24:18 Veterans Day Special: All Quiet on the Thin Red Line

26:23 Creating AI Art for Veterans Day

26:59 Instagram's Content Moderation Dilemma

28:13 The Impact of AI on Content Creation and Distribution

28:23 Guest Appearance on 'Lights, Camera, Rant' Podcast

33:59 Reflections on Personal Challenges and the Future of the Podcast

45:42 Appreciation for Listener Engagement and Future Plans

47:15 Fun Behind-the-Scenes Stories from Past Episodes


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Transcript
Jerome:

Welcome to the Silver Screen Happy Hour Year End Year

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Ahead New Year's Extravaganza.

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Where we're going to take a look back.

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Just making shit up.

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I'm just spit balling right now.

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We're going to take a look back

at:

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and all of our greatest hits.

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Chris: So I wanted to, first of all, just.

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Thanks some people.

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Um, I want to thank you for sticking

with me on this because it's been a

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learning curve and, and me working full

time and trying to learn how to edit

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video and audio, mostly audio, because

we have just experimented with video.

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Um, but it's been fun.

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And, and this year has been exciting for

cause we started kind of what:

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we, We recorded our first episodes, the

very first episode was so, the audio

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was so crap we had to throw it away.

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Sadly.

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I wish I still had it because I'd like

to, because I've learned some things

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and I might have been able to repair

some of it, but that one's gone.

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We should probably redo that one

because it was a good, good episode.

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Uh, for our first one especially, but

yeah, so:

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we posted three that we recorded in

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And then we proceeded to do, we finished

out:

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Uh, which included our . A

bulk of:

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Jerome: Yeah.

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That was . That was a large

part of our entire podcast for

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that entire year was Star Wars.

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So we did, we did a two-parter on.

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Episode one alone, right?

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Just the 45th anniversary of A New Hope.

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And that took two episodes.

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And I guess

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Chris: since we never did a year in

review before, we're doing, we're

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doing a, uh, a, what, a series review?

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So it's basically a show review, because

we've never done this before, so.

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Jerome: I was actually just

going to focus on:

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Chris: Yeah, I was just trying to get

us up to:

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So the exciting part about 2023, we

started recording early in the year.

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And by May, we had several in the

bank and, and I was beginning to start

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releasing them because I was trying to

just stay ahead of the curve when it

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comes to editing and an editing schedule.

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And we managed to get from,

from May on, we managed to

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get at least one out a month.

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And so I'm pretty proud of that.

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Um, starting with Ethan Hawk Day in May.

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We

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Jerome: actually did better than that.

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We have total 10 episodes.

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I mean, some of them are two parters.

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So we we recorded all at

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Chris: once.

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Well, we only have nine out right now.

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There's another one coming in

December So yeah, we'll have ten by

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the end of December and then this

will go out first week of January.

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I'm thinking so It's

we're recording this on.

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What is it?

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December 5th.

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So December 5th and Yeah,

and in other news, I became a

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grandpa again today, so this

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Jerome: is Again.

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Again, folks.

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Number three, so His third

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Chris: grandchild.

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Yeah, it's a big day, so

we had this thing planned.

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We were going to spend a couple hours

behind the microphones today, do another

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episode, but we had to crunch that down.

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We're, we're, we have my grandson for

the night today, and I cannot leave

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my precious wife alone with that boy

too much longer, so we're going to do

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a short year review episode that we'll

put out in January, and in the next

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week or so, we're going to finally get

that, that first episode for January

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recorded, so, but that's the look ahead.

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Let's, let's talk about 2023 right now.

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Yeah, before we get, before I'm,

hold on, I am excited though.

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I didn't want to just breeze

over the fact that my son and

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daughter in law had a baby today.

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Yes!

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Congratulations!

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Congratulations Josh and Elyse.

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The

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Jerome: Wegan clan continues to

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Chris: grow.

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Yeah, so happy.

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June, Christina entered the world

today and she is such a precious baby.

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So yes, very, very excited.

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Already a full head of hair.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, she's beautiful.

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So anyway, so looking at

looking at the past year.

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So yeah, we did.

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I think starting in October, we managed

to put up to a month because silence

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of the midsummer was such a big show,

we ended up splitting it into two.

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Um, looking back, let me just

read the name, the titles of

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all the shows we did this year.

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And then I just want to, like, get

your thoughts on some of them because

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there's things that just jump out

to me when I look at these titles.

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So

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Jerome: don't, don't just

read them off all at once.

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Let's stop after each one.

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Alright, let's do that.

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So let's start episode one.

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Yep.

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Ethan Hawke Day, so what's funny

about this is that's, that might be

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my favorite episode that we've done.

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Um, I don't know, The Sound of the Lambs

midsummer one's pretty good too, but I

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really, what I really loved about Ethan

Hawke Day was, uh, for the purposes

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of what we talk about in this show.

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Right?

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Like the script structure, script

analysis, uh, for those that know who

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Blake Snyder is, we follow a lot of

the, the, what's called the save the

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cat beat sheets, um, you know, the,

the certain beats of, you know, your

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theme stated, your break into two,

your midpoint scene, all is lost, all

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these things, and that's, you know,

it's a good indicator of how well a

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script is if your character development

follows along, um, on these beats.

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Again, every screenwriting Teacher,

uh, kind of has their own thing.

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You know, some are big premise guys.

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They're like, you know, if it's a movie

about vampires, we need to see vampires.

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You know, it's all about

the promise of the premise.

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Me.

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I'm a goals guy.

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I love to see a character go through

their emotional shifts on their journey

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to, uh, to their spiritual goal,

which is the big payoff at the end.

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Um, up until this year started, we were,

uh, Uh, my favorite episode was probably

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the Promising Young Thelma, where we did

Promising Young Woman Thelma and Louise.

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Because Thelma and Louise is a

perfect example of emotional shifts.

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What I loved about Ethan Hawke

Day was Dead Poets Society and

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Training Day were two perfect

examples of a character's growth.

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And the funny thing is, the character

growth was the supporting role guy.

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Right, right.

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And that was the whole

hook of that episode.

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Yeah, the

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Chris: leads, the, the, the, the

leads, uh, as far as the studios

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were concerned, didn't really

have an arc where they learned

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Jerome: something.

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Yeah.

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They didn't learn a damn thing!

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They're pretty much the

same person at the end.

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Now, people will argue, well,

Denzel learned a very tragic lesson.

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Well, yeah, he found out.

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Yeah, yeah, he's, again, I think we

said it on the episode, he's the human

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version of fuck around and find out.

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You know?

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So that's, you know, but that's

not really a lesson, and if it is,

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he only had seconds to learn it.

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Um, so, um, but Ethan Hawke's character

in both Training Day and Dead Poets

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Society, that's your character arc.

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That's the one that grows in both films.

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Um, alright, so what was episode two?

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Well,

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Chris: before we move on, we didn't

talk about our drinks, we always do

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this on our shows, so I had something

else planned for the other show we

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were gonna do, I put that aside so

I can talk about that next time.

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Um, it's, it's the holiday

season, um, I like whiskey.

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I don't like sweet things very much,

but I got me some Fireball because

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it's, you know, it's the holidays.

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It's cinnamon.

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It's good.

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It makes you warm and, and good inside.

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Jerome: So aside from my, uh, beer

backups, cause I always have my lightsaber

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backups, I'm kicking the day off with

a little throwback to our Jaws episode.

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I made myself another Sharkarita.

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We'll get to the Jaws episode as we

continue on this, uh, year end review.

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Um, but it's also, uh,

kind of pertinent to.

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Uh, the show that we'll be

doing coming up in a week or so.

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Chris: anyway.

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Alright, so the next one we did

is, uh, that released June 28th.

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Uh, Walk the Elvis, where we talked about

Walk the Line from:

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2022, that fireball took my breath

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Jerome: away.

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Now this was, this was fun

because I hadn't seen Elvis yet.

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It was streaming, it had just come out

in theaters and then it was streaming.

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Uh, and Walk the Line, I only saw

like one time when it first came out.

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So I was very, very raw

on both of these, um.

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And,

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Chris: uh, And I was the

opposite with Walk the Line.

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We bought the DVD after it came out

and I watched it a million times.

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I loved that movie.

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I think it's a great, I mean

everything about it, the screenplay,

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the writing, the acting, the music.

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I mean, oh my gosh, the real, you know.

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Jerome: This is, um, was

this our first biopics?

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It might have been our first

time we did, at least the first

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time we did musical biopics.

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We might have done, well we did Hoffa.

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Oh wait, we haven't done Hoffa yet.

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No, that's part of the season.

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That was after, right.

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So this might have been our first biopics.

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And, you know, from a writing

point of view, that has its

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own unique challenges, right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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When you're trying to adapt

a true story or a real life

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person, how much can you make up?

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How much can you dramatize?

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But ultimately, how do you get

that hook in there with the

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beats that make it interesting?

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Uh, Walk the Line, I thought,

was, had a fantastic script.

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Had problems with Elvis,

for obvious reasons.

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If you don't know what we're talking

about, go back and listen to that episode.

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We're not going to rehash

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Chris: that right now, but yeah.

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But,

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Jerome: um, one of the things, I

was just talking to somebody about

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this the other day, about Walk the

Lines, All is Lost, and then they

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have the Dark Knight of the Soul.

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Where they, it's kind of a debate on

how they're going to get into Act 3.

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And it's so perfect in Walk the Line.

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Because he hits rock bottom with

the drugs, and nobody is, everybody

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pretty much abandons him, except June.

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She's the only one that takes care

of him, and right as he's recovering,

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and he's thinking to himself, This

is the dark night of the soul part,

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where he doesn't know what to do

with his life now going forward.

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He's even thinking about quitting.

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He finally looks into all the mail

he's been getting, all the fan mail,

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and it's all from guys in prison.

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And that was the light that went off.

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You know, about Who didn't mute their

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Chris: phone?

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Jerome: Me, sorry.

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Talk about rookie move.

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Rookie move, amateur mistake.

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Um, you know, that was

his jump into Act 3.

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Was like, that was his, you

know, that was his thing then.

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It was his calling.

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Was that his place was, would be

to reach out to guys in prison.

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And give them hope.

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You know, um, so yeah,

that was a, a great one.

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Chris: So the next one we released

July 17th was the Hugamins.

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Uh, where we talked about Hugo from

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Um, it's funny because that's one

I remember, uh, I was shocked that

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you had never seen Hugo before.

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Jerome: Talk about a

slip through the cracks.

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I mean, two monster filmmakers.

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We got Spielberg that did Fablemans, which

is kind of, uh, uh, an autobiography,

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basically, of his, of his life.

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Right.

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And then, Hugo, directed by my favorite

director of all time, Martin Scorsese.

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And it's not just that Scorsese

released a movie that somehow I missed.

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This movie was up for Oscars.

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Yeah.

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It had, like, 11 Oscar

nominations, something like that.

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Like, this is the kind

of, and I'm an Oscar guy.

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I watch the Oscars every year.

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Really?

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How the fuck this movie got by

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Chris: me, I don't know.

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Were you like in a blackout in 2011?

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I think

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Jerome: I was drunk.

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I think, I think that

whole year I was drunk.

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And I don't, this is before I got

married, by the way, so, uh, I

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don't remember 2011 all that much.

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So, I'm thinking this was

in a heavy, sedated state.

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Oh no.

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And, uh, I don't even remember much about

that Oscar season except for somehow

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Hugo, uh, just went right over me.

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I don't, I don't know how I missed it,

but it was fun to watch it for the first

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time for this, uh, for our podcast.

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Yeah, because it reminded me

about not just how much I love

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Scorsese, how much he loves movies.

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My god, is that a, is that a love

letter to filmmaking or what?

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You know, they both are.

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Actually, Fableman's is too.

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So that's the other great

thing, is these two films are

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not just by iconic filmmakers.

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They're, they're love letters to cinema.

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Mm hmm.

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You know, and if you love movies, and

you love those two guys, Spielberg

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and Scorsese, check out our podcast.

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Yeah.

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I was gonna say watch their

movies, but no, no, no.

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Check out our podcast.

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That's

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Chris: even better.

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I remember editing, uh, the Hughlamans,

and I remember texting you saying, Oh

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my gosh, this is like What did I say?

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This is like a must listen if you're a,

uh, a potential, an aspiring filmmaker

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or screenwriter, because the things

you covered in there, I mean, it was,

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it was a great episode, but like I

was going over it, hearing it again,

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and I'm like, oh yeah, this is solid,

solid stuff for the aspiring filmmaker.

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Jerome: Yes.

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And then we moved on

to my birthday present.

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August 7th.

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A podcast that was

released on my birthday.

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Chris: Did we even mention

that it was your birthday?

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On that show?

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I don't remember.

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No,

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Jerome: no, because we

recorded it well ahead of time.

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Oh, that's right.

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I

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Chris: released it on your birthday.

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Yeah, we released it on my birthday.

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So, everything, everywhere, all at once.

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Jerome: Yes, and we wrote it

like that in the podcast list

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with a period after each one.

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Because when Harrison Ford presented

the award for best picture, that's

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pretty much how he read the card.

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Yeah.

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When he said, and the

Oscar goes to Everything.

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Everywhere.

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All.

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At.

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Chris: even halfway, not even, by

the time he got to the second word.

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Jerome: everyone was already freaking

out and clapping and coming up to the

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Chris: stage.

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There's one thing I wanted to mention

about this episode that, um, I'm sad

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to say, I, we recorded an update to

that episode that never got published.

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We never, I never put it out.

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I never got around to it.

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I was busy.

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It was summertime.

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Um.

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There was something we put in

there, a question to the audience.

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Um, because we, I heard something

at the, in the end credits, some

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whispers, some things that kinda,

were kinda interesting, kinda weird.

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Cause I went to the song on Spotify

and couldn't hear the whispers.

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I went to the song on YouTube, couldn't

hear those whispers and the talking

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that was going on during the credits.

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So, we wanted to know the answer.

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And actually I got an answer cause

I emailed, um, the What was it?

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It was the PR company that was doing

PR for the, uh, Sunlux, was the

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band that did the music, uh, for

Everything Everywhere All at Once.

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And someone got back to me, and actually,

they, they talked to one of the artists,

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the lead artist that composed the music

and stuff, and they told me that, that

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the whispers and everything was going on.

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They actually did that sort of as

an, as an Easter egg to the fans who

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stayed in the theater at the very end.

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It was kind of cool.

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So they, they, um, had, and, and I

guess the whispers and the talking,

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depending on where you were sitting in

the theater, you would hear parts of it

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more clearly than others because they'd

be coming out of different speakers.

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So that was kind of, kind of cool.

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And I guess all the words and

all the, things that were being

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whispered and spoken was stuff

from a specific scene in the movie.

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I think it was the bagel scene.

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And uh, yeah, so it was just really cool

that we got that answer directly from the

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artist who was up for an Academy Award.

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So that was fun.

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I'm sad we didn't get it on the

update episode, but I'm doing it now.

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I'm updating everyone now.

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Jerome: He's friggin amateurs.

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They can't even put my shit on.

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Chris: Well, it would have been different

if I would have gotten like a voicemail

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from him because then we could have

just put his voice on the podcast,

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but so yeah, that was, that was fun.

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So the next, the next one, um,

it was actually very timely for,

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for me, um, because I think we

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Jerome: chose it because of, yeah,

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Chris: yeah, we did.

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We, we saw the calendar,

what was coming up.

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Uh, contract wise with the UAW, uh, the

Writer's Strike had been going on already,

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the Screen Actors Guild has been on,

had been on strike for some time, and

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so we decided we wanted to do something

surrounding labor, the labor movement,

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union, and actually, I mean, HOFA was

more of a He was a, uh, uh, union boss,

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and Norma Rae, we went with Norma Rae,

so we just called that episode Union

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Solidarity, and, uh, we just called it

Norma Rae and Hoffa Script Analysis.

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So what, what are your thoughts

from that, uh, that episode?

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Jerome: Um, again, we had problems with

both, but mostly Norma Rae's, uh, Uh,

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script in the first half, uh, drags, it's

very slow, it really doesn't pick up until

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about the midpoint scene and then for

the rest of the film it really picks up.

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Uh, great performances though, it's

still iconic the moment when, uh,

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Sally Fields stands on the table and

holds up the sign that says Union.

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Um, Hoffa, same thing, but I think if

I remember correctly, we kind of boiled

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down Hoffa's problems to editing.

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It wasn't so much the script.

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It seemed like things were cut

out of order, like if they had

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just shifted a few scenes around.

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Yeah.

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Yeah,

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Chris: you actually said something in

there where, uh, if there's an aspiring,

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uh, film editor listening, you'll

want to go back and listen to that one

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because you actually rearranged Hoffa

in a way that I thought, oh my gosh.

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That would be frickin brilliant.

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Jerome: It would have been better, right?

381

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Oh, it would have been way better.

382

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I think I missed my

calling as a filmmaker.

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Chris: So, anyway, but that was, yeah,

you had some good insights to that one.

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And

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Jerome: then, and then the

ending, remember, we wanted

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to change the ending, too.

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Yeah.

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With the mirror thing.

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Yeah.

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That should have been Jimmy,

not DeVito's character.

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Yeah.

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It should have been Jack.

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You know.

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But, uh, but yeah.

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He was directing it, so of

course it had to be about him.

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Yeah, of course.

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:

Danny, it's always about him.

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Um, but yeah, so that was a fun one, too.

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And I want to say Um, that our next

episode, we actually recorded before that,

400

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and we planned on releasing that one.

401

:

Yes.

402

:

But when the union thing

happened, with the strikes, we

403

:

were like, no, let's bump that.

404

:

Yep.

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:

Uh, which worked out because it

became our Veterans Day special.

406

:

Um, No, not

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Chris: the next one.

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The next one, Nope, the next one

was Silence of the Midsommar.

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:

Oh, that's right.

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So we, we always planned on doing Silence

of the Midsommar in October for Halloween.

411

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For

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Jerome: Halloween, right.

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But I want to say, we recorded.

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The veterans day one

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Chris: way early.

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Yeah, that one was sat on the shelf

because we wanted we realized we wanted

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to release it for veterans day It was

just timely for veterans day, right?

418

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So but let's get into the silence

of the midsummer because I don't

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want to breeze over this one That

420

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Jerome: became a two parter.

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We released the first part on Friday

the 13th in October Yes, and the

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second part on Halloween night.

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So that was a great two parter

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Chris: So I'm gonna

confess something here.

425

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I didn't, I didn't mention it at the

time, so it's even more fun now to

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go back and listen to it, to realize

that at a certain point, I almost die,

427

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and then, and for the remainder of

the show, the audience now will know.

428

:

That I sat through the remainder

of the show with wet pants.

429

:

Jerome: How much did you actually piss?

430

:

I, I pissed my damn pants, man.

431

:

I didn't know that you went You

totally made me lose control.

432

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I didn't know you went full fire hose.

433

:

I thought you just had some dribbles.

434

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I, I thought you had See?

435

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And, and folks, we already mentioned this

is his third grandchild he had today, so

436

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Chris: These are things that I have

to worry about now, apparently.

437

:

He's

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Jerome: now gotta wear,

he's now gotta wear diapers.

439

:

He's gotta wear Depends

when he does the show.

440

:

Depends will

441

:

Chris: be a must have for

recording a podcast with your ass.

442

:

So,

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Jerome: that was actually when we

did the Silence of the Lambs part.

444

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So we started with Midsommar, I

think, when we did the two parter.

445

:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

446

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Chris: So it's in the

part two that I lost it.

447

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Jerome: Right, right.

448

:

And Midsommar.

449

:

You had some fun at

Midsommar, too, though.

450

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Chris: I loved Midsommar, and so I think

I thoroughly enjoyed recording that part,

451

:

the first part, and it was just, we went

so long on Midsommar we decided, okay, we

452

:

gotta, we gotta just keep going and then

make, release this as two episodes, so.

453

:

Jerome: And keep in mind folks,

we understand that the, the

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The proper term is Midsommar.

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:

Midsommar.

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Uh, we know that's the

right way to say it.

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We just made a vow that we

would never say it like that.

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:

I don't know why.

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Chris: The funny thing is, I think on

the episode we cr you criticized who the

460

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Jerome: hell says that.

461

:

I was like, that's not,

that sounds stupid.

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And then I found out

that is how it sounds.

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That's how it.

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:

Then you

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Chris: found out that's

what the director, the

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Jerome: way he's That's

what the director said.

467

:

Yeah.

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:

Midsommar.

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:

Midsommar.

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:

But I don't, I don't, I can't.

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I'm not that cool to say it.

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:

The cool way.

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:

So we're, we're, we're

dumbing it down for us.

474

:

So

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:

Chris: yeah, that came out

October 13th, part one.

476

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And then on October 31st, we, we

released Silence of the Midsommar.

477

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And it was

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Jerome: almost my brother's last October.

479

:

Yeah.

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:

Because

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Chris: he almost died.

482

:

But I gotta say, man, I, one of the

things that we talked about in that,

483

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in that part where we talked mainly

about Silence of the Lambs, you

484

:

pointed out some, some about, um,

screenwriting and, and directing and,

485

:

and just the, the idea of, um, surprise.

486

:

Well, we, what'd you talk about

shock and surprise and suspense

487

:

and after, after the initial watch,

every time you watch it, it's better

488

:

because you know what's coming.

489

:

And so you're, it's a different type of.

490

:

Experience, uh, the more you watch it, so.

491

:

Jerome: Yeah, yeah.

492

:

Uh, it's, it's, to me it's similar

to, um, the argument I think we talked

493

:

about when we did, uh, Star Wars, was,

um, when I first met my wife, she had

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:

never seen any Star Wars movies, so of

course I made her watch all the movies.

495

:

But I, I, I made her watch them, In

chronological order, not release order.

496

:

So she started with episode

one and worked her way through.

497

:

And everyone was like, Oh my

God, how could you do that?

498

:

It ruins the, um, Luke, I

am your father scene, right?

499

:

It ruins that big because you

already know at that point.

500

:

And I said, yes, but it was replaced

with, she had no idea who Darth Vader was.

501

:

Like the whole first three

movies, she kept asking me,

502

:

so who's this Darth Vader guy?

503

:

And when does he come in?

504

:

And I'm like, he'll show up later.

505

:

She had no clue that Anakin was Vader,

so it was replaced by that surprise.

506

:

Right, right.

507

:

That, and to her, it was a love story

all the way up until that happened.

508

:

She didn't know that Padme was gonna die.

509

:

Like, all this was a surprise.

510

:

So she had a whole different perspective.

511

:

Yeah, yeah.

512

:

Silence of the Lambs does something

similar to where the first time you

513

:

watch it, you have that shock when

you, when he reveals, you know, he

514

:

reveals, he takes the skin mask off and

reveals that it's him in the ambulance.

515

:

When you watch it a second

time, yeah, you know it's him.

516

:

But it replaces that shock with

the suspense that this whole time

517

:

you know that the guy they think

is a cop is actually Hector.

518

:

So it's, it replaces

the shock with suspense.

519

:

And yeah, that's, that was a

cool moment when you can go back.

520

:

We always talk about, you could

watch the movie Airplane 100

521

:

times and catch new things.

522

:

Um, Sounds of the Lambs is one of those

that gets better with every viewing.

523

:

Chris: Yeah, I think so.

524

:

Yep.

525

:

So the next one was a short five minute.

526

:

episode that we put up.

527

:

Um, I called it, I, I think I called

it a bonus episode or something, but

528

:

it was a listener response episode

that I just wanted to get, we had a, a

529

:

voice, basically a voicemail, someone

that listened, um, sent us a message

530

:

on, uh, Instagram, Ashley, Ashley, uh,

sent us this message and I loved it.

531

:

And Ashley asked a question,

um, about if, if we had ever,

532

:

uh, seen hereditary, hereditary.

533

:

And, uh, so we just talked about that,

and it was, it was fun, it was, it was,

534

:

I think it was 5 minutes, was it 5 or

10 minutes, I can't remember how much.

535

:

Um, but that was something that

I, I, I was It was 6 minutes,

536

:

it was 5 minutes, 57 seconds.

537

:

I was glad we, we were able to create

a little episode out of it, and, uh,

538

:

because I would love to do that again.

539

:

Uh, if anyone else sends us voice memos,

um, voice mails, voice messages, um,

540

:

we're able to get your voice on the

air and it, it kind of makes us feel a

541

:

little more connected to those listening.

542

:

So Ashley, thank you for, um,

sending us that and thank you

543

:

for your, uh, positive response.

544

:

response and feedback.

545

:

We really appreciate it.

546

:

Jerome: Yes, absolutely.

547

:

Um,

548

:

Chris: so then that leads

right into November, right?

549

:

Jerome: So yeah, so that was

our veterans day special.

550

:

Chris: Yes.

551

:

All quiet on the thin red line.

552

:

Jerome: We have so much fun

combining these titles together

553

:

to make a title for the show.

554

:

Uh, so all quiet on the Western front.

555

:

Which, as we said on the show, is the,

uh, war version of A Star is Born.

556

:

It's a movie that gets remade

every 20, 30 years or so.

557

:

It's been made four times.

558

:

Um, this was the most recent one.

559

:

And then, uh, we compared

it with The Thin Red Line.

560

:

Uh, uh, Terrence Malick's

:

561

:

Mm hmm.

562

:

I thought both of them had a

lot of similarities with, like,

563

:

they were both, like, watching

abstract paintings, you know?

564

:

And it was, and it was, It was fun

and challenging to try to get that,

565

:

that script structure, that three act

script structure, that beat sheet,

566

:

with such an abstract painting, right?

567

:

It's tougher to do like that.

568

:

Um, we could have done Saving

Private Ryan, that one has

569

:

a much easier arc, uh, to

570

:

Chris: Yeah, we also talked about

All Quiet on the Western Front

571

:

being paired up with, what was

it,:

572

:

Yeah.

573

:

Because that, that also is

a World War I, um Movie that

574

:

came out just a few years ago,

575

:

Jerome: and they're both sort

of like journey movies We're

576

:

like the lead is like on a path

somewhere right what I mean, right?

577

:

Um same with saving private Ryan, and

I think we mentioned private Ryan a

578

:

lot in our yeah We veterans day show

it actually could be three movies

579

:

that we talked about, but we didn't

actually break down Saving private Ryan.

580

:

Yep, but yeah, so that was a

fun one And it was you know

581

:

hats off to our veterans man.

582

:

That's you know yeah, we try to do timely

episodes as far as like Union because

583

:

of the strike was going on, uh, Veterans

Day show, Halloween show, we, we, we

584

:

like to try to be seasonal if we can.

585

:

And that was definitely right at perfect

time to, uh, to release two war movies.

586

:

Chris: You know, and I should, I

should mention this right now, I don't

587

:

remember if I told you this, so this

might be news to you if I didn't, um.

588

:

On Instagram, I try to put up reels or

some kind of post on Instagram or Facebook

589

:

when we, when we release episodes.

590

:

And, uh, for our Veterans Day episode,

I posted a little video I made.

591

:

I made, um, a series of AI art of war.

592

:

You know, uh, young men in war situations.

593

:

My brother is dabbling with Skynet.

594

:

It's fu I mean, you know,

it's just screwing around.

595

:

But I was I made some pretty cool images.

596

:

The AI made these images.

597

:

I told it what to make.

598

:

But, um, I I put it to Sound starts.

599

:

I put, like, a little slideshow to

Metallica's, um, I think it was,

600

:

uh, Back to the Front, which is a

war song that they that they did.

601

:

Um, anyways.

602

:

It, it went for about a day or so

and then I, I got a notification, uh,

603

:

Instagram like banned it or took it down.

604

:

They didn't take it down, but they just

stopped, they stopped promoting it.

605

:

I'm like, what the heck?

606

:

So I challenged it and eventually they

put it, they, they, you know, put it back

607

:

up, but I realized it got very little

views and I was like, well, that's.

608

:

Jerome: Did you need Metallica's

permission, is that what it was?

609

:

No,

610

:

Chris: because Instagram lets you use

that song as one of the songs you can use.

611

:

I think it had more to do

with the AI art depicting war.

612

:

And it wasn't that gross.

613

:

I mean, I've seen way worse on Instagram.

614

:

So I don't know what the, uh, The,

uh, algorithms caught that it didn't

615

:

like, there was like guns in the, in

the, in the pictures or whatever, but

616

:

yeah, it was kind of, kind of weird.

617

:

And when I challenged it, I

was like, I just challenged it.

618

:

And I think when, if, if a human

being actually looked at it, we, we

619

:

actually said in the post where we

raise a glass to salute our, you know,

620

:

to, to, to, to our, uh, veterans,

uh, you know, on veterans day.

621

:

So it was obviously a tribute.

622

:

It wasn't like some kind of weird,

I don't know, but war glorification.

623

:

Yeah, so that was kind of frustrating,

but I just thought I'd call that out.

624

:

That was like way to go

Instagram with your algorithms.

625

:

It's funny.

626

:

AI made it and AI took it down.

627

:

Right,

628

:

Jerome: right.

629

:

They're turning on each other.

630

:

See, that's how it starts.

631

:

So

632

:

Chris: that kind of, it gets

us to where we're at right now.

633

:

Well,

634

:

Jerome: we had one more, which was

a special show that we were able to

635

:

jump on, uh, on somebody else's show.

636

:

Somebody else's podcast.

637

:

Tell us about it,

638

:

Chris: Chris.

639

:

So, yeah, uh, Lee from Lights,

Camera, Rant invited us on his show.

640

:

And, uh, Lee Lee's killing it man.

641

:

If you look at his, he's got a

642

:

Jerome: YouTube.

643

:

He's got content all the time.

644

:

Chris: He's yeah, he's constantly

cranking out the content He's doing

645

:

like series on Loki and the Marvel

Universe and and just a whole bunch

646

:

of Great shows, great content.

647

:

Jerome: Yeah.

648

:

He doesn't do just Marvel.

649

:

He does a

650

:

Chris: Yeah.

651

:

But it was cool, and we

met through, uh, Clubhouse.

652

:

Actually, that was another thing I was

gonna get to in the, in the thanks,

653

:

because I want to thank some people from

Clubhouse before we're done here too.

654

:

But, um, I met Lee on Clubhouse in

a podcast morning chat that we do,

655

:

um, it's, it's not morning for him.

656

:

I think it's, uh, Damn near

midnight or something when he

657

:

when he jumps on because he's in

Australia But that was so much fun.

658

:

He had us on and he wanted us to do He

basically asked us what what we thought

659

:

we should do and I told him what we did on

our show And he actually he knew because

660

:

he's listening to some Um, but he had us

talk about what makes a great screenplay

661

:

and what makes a shit screenplay.

662

:

And, uh, we chose two, two movies

that would be great to compare

663

:

a great one versus a shitty one.

664

:

And so we talked about Jaws versus Jaws

4, The Revenge and what a blast that was.

665

:

I mean, we both had blue.

666

:

Tongues and lips from drinking the, yeah.

667

:

. There it is.

668

:

You got it right now?

669

:

Jerome: Yeah, because

I'm drinking my chaka

670

:

Chris: I, the blue, the blue cocktail.

671

:

I had a, what was mine?

672

:

Uh, I forgot what I called mine or what?

673

:

My blue lagoon, I think

my drink was called.

674

:

Yeah, I think it was a blue lagoon.

675

:

So

676

:

Jerome: it was so much fun.

677

:

But you guys can check it out.

678

:

If you really, and if you're curious

to know what we look like, you'll

679

:

be able to see us in the flesh.

680

:

Yeah.

681

:

Yeah.

682

:

Um, it's, it's two and

a half hours on YouTube.

683

:

You just, uh, search lights,

camera ran, check out some

684

:

Chris: Actually just go

to, just go to our, uh.

685

:

Our podcast, uh, I have

it in the show notes.

686

:

I linked to the, to his YouTube video.

687

:

He gave us access to

the YouTube video, too.

688

:

Um, we're such, I mean,

I'm learning as I go.

689

:

Eventually, I'll probably put that

on our, uh, YouTube, uh, channel.

690

:

Um, but we, we're not there yet, so.

691

:

Yeah.

692

:

I thought, let's give Lee the love.

693

:

We'll go to his YouTube

and watch the video.

694

:

It was really good.

695

:

It was,

696

:

Jerome: it was fun.

697

:

It was kind of funny because Vivi,

my daughter, who's seven years old.

698

:

Yeah.

699

:

She came home, uh, recently, and

she told me a conversation she

700

:

had with somebody in her class.

701

:

She's in, you know, she's in second grade.

702

:

And, uh, she goes, yeah, I told

my friend that my dad's on TV.

703

:

And I was like, Cap,

I'm not, I'm not on TV.

704

:

That's not true.

705

:

And she's like, well, YouTube.

706

:

And I said, she goes, that's TV.

707

:

I mean, tube.

708

:

YouTube is the TV, like a TV.

709

:

I'm like, okay, we watched it on TV,

but it doesn't mean I'm on TV, you know.

710

:

The kids today don't know the difference.

711

:

Yeah, yeah.

712

:

She's apparently telling

everyone in her class that her

713

:

dad's on TV, which is a lie.

714

:

Well, it's, it's very, very

It's thinly veiled truth there,

715

:

but um, but no, it was fun.

716

:

It was two and a half hours and,

you know, uh, it's a commitment.

717

:

So if you got stuff to do around

the house, put us on in the

718

:

background, put us on the TV.

719

:

Hey,

720

:

Chris: I work on assembly line and it's,

you know, you need a few hours to burn.

721

:

That's a great show to, to put on or

if you're on a road trip or something.

722

:

Yeah.

723

:

Jerome: If you have Wi Fi access

on an airplane, you can watch

724

:

this while you're on your flight.

725

:

Yeah.

726

:

Chris: So, as you noted, that was

number nine for the, for the year,

727

:

and, uh, we have the tenth one

coming out, uh, in a couple of weeks.

728

:

It's gonna be our Christmas episode.

729

:

Do you wanna give a tease

about what that's about?

730

:

Oh, yeah.

731

:

Jerome: We're gonna tease it up, baby.

732

:

So, we have a fantastic show that

we actually already recorded.

733

:

This one's already in the can.

734

:

And we're gonna release it.

735

:

Is it, are you gonna

do it at Christmas Eve?

736

:

I think you gotta do it at Christmas Eve.

737

:

Chris: Maybe.

738

:

I mean, I gotta look at the dates.

739

:

Christmas is on a Monday or whatever.

740

:

I might, I might even release

it the weekend, that weekend

741

:

or something, maybe Friday or

742

:

Jerome: something.

743

:

Yeah, so so if you guys are like

traveling to like, you know Out of state

744

:

or even just to another town you have

a little bit of a drive coming up Take

745

:

the family somewhere for Christmas.

746

:

You could check this out.

747

:

Maybe yeah, maybe that's a better

idea release it on Friday Well, then

748

:

Chris: again if you're if you got

kids in the car parental advisory

749

:

Jerome: You put your headphones

in yeah, that's safety.

750

:

That's that's safe for highway driving

put your headphones in so you can't

751

:

hear any sirens We are Comparing

and contrasting two Christmas films.

752

:

One of them is an epic,

one of them is a turd.

753

:

But, uh, we had a lot

of fun playing with it.

754

:

Um, sorry Mel, I know this is the

second time we put one of your

755

:

turds on our pro on our podcast.

756

:

But, uh, we do Mel Gibson's Fat Man.

757

:

Yeah.

758

:

Versus 2020, I think.

759

:

One of the greatest

Christmas movies of all time.

760

:

Die Hard.

761

:

Yes.

762

:

Starring Bruce Willis.

763

:

1988.

764

:

Now, for those of you going, what?

765

:

What?

766

:

How?

767

:

That's not a Christmas.

768

:

Yes, it is.

769

:

And we actually even debate

on the show why, I have bullet

770

:

points on why it is, in fact.

771

:

Why it's a Christmas.

772

:

It's a Christmas movie.

773

:

I had, to be fair, I do even

have three points on why it

774

:

isn't, but I debunked those two.

775

:

So it's pretty much a Christmas movie.

776

:

Um,

777

:

Chris: yep.

778

:

And so I just wanted to take this time

at the end of the recap and kind of talk

779

:

about The year ahead, um, we would love

to, uh, carry this momentum into the new

780

:

year, um, but I want to acknowledge some

things first, uh, and, and I mentioned,

781

:

I, I forgot to do a thank you, um, I would

like to personally thank, um, a group of

782

:

people on Clubhouse, and I don't, I didn't

write down everybody's name, so I'm not

783

:

gonna run down a list, um, but all the

moderators on this, uh, morning chat,

784

:

and it's the Empowered Podcasting team.

785

:

Um, House or the Empowered

Podcasting Club on Clubhouse.

786

:

Um, every Monday through Friday,

we, we meet from, uh, 7 till 8 a.

787

:

m.

788

:

Eastern Time.

789

:

They also have a, a Friday

night, uh, chat as well.

790

:

Um, Mark Ronick is the, uh,

individual that, uh, heads it up.

791

:

And, um, Mark is a podcaster and he has

a, his business, uh, helping podcasters.

792

:

Um, Basically create and get their work

out there and great, great content.

793

:

Um, but I just want to thank Mark

and, uh, all the moderators on

794

:

the morning chat because, um,

they've been an inspiration to me.

795

:

Uh, it's been a tough year for me

personally with, uh, some health.

796

:

health, uh, situation.

797

:

Not just me, but my wife,

uh, um, had to have surgery.

798

:

She, um, yeah.

799

:

And it's been a, especially

this fall has been difficult.

800

:

She's about three weeks uh, post

surgery now as we record this.

801

:

And, uh, she's doing well.

802

:

And, um, but, and, and somehow

a lot of this, uh, leading up to

803

:

the fall, a lot of what was coming

out this fall was already done.

804

:

So it wasn't like it was

taking a lot of time.

805

:

The fact that she was not Doing well

and I was picking up some things,

806

:

you know, trying to be there for her.

807

:

It made this fall season a

little more difficult for me

808

:

to try to get this content out.

809

:

So we're going to do our

best to keep up the momentum.

810

:

But I just want to say, you

know, family comes first.

811

:

And we're going to, we're

going to see how:

812

:

We're very hopeful though.

813

:

I feel like we're going into it

coming out of a difficult season and.

814

:

2024 is looking up.

815

:

So I'm excited about, you

know, the new year coming.

816

:

Um, but, uh, yeah, I just wanted

to say that, you know, that's the

817

:

little asterisk, uh, we're, we're,

I'm fully intending on hopefully, I

818

:

mean, if we can do two a month, great.

819

:

If we can only do one a month.

820

:

That's okay too.

821

:

Um, I want to continue doing this, and

um, it's, we both enjoy it, I'm, I'm

822

:

loving that we're doing this, and I'm

loving that we're, we're recording this

823

:

stuff, and it's gonna be there for our

kids and, and family members, uh, in the

824

:

future, and aspiring, um, filmmakers,

screenwriters, cause I think there's

825

:

a lot of great content here for, uh,

826

:

Jerome: Yes, absolutely.

827

:

Um, number one, we got into this

just because we like to talk movies.

828

:

And it gave us a chance, again,

for those that don't know, we

829

:

live 2300 Sorry, I wasn't peeing.

830

:

That's not him peeing his pants

this time, as far as we know.

831

:

We live 2, 300 miles apart.

832

:

He still lives in Michigan,

which is where I'm from.

833

:

Uh, by the way, at the time of

this recording, Michigan is in

834

:

the college football playoffs.

835

:

But anyway.

836

:

And the Lions aren't doing too bad either.

837

:

And the Lions are 9 3, folks.

838

:

Dude.

839

:

This is not recorded in

podcast history forever.

840

:

We'll be able to call back to

the time that Lions were 9 3.

841

:

Yeah.

842

:

Um, on that note, uh, in, uh, because of

the Lions and Michigan Okay, there we go.

843

:

Anyway, so, um I have a

couple of thanks as well.

844

:

I'd like to give a shout out, and I

know we've done this already several

845

:

times, Lee, of course, from Lights,

but also, uh, the guys over at Writer's

846

:

Blockbusters, Bob Rose, Jimmy George,

uh, Jamie Nash, these three dudes.

847

:

They have a similar, uh, setup as ours.

848

:

They don't really compare

and contrast two movies.

849

:

They really just take on one,

and they really dig deep on it.

850

:

And it's given me, uh, sort of, uh,

an eye opening experience on, you

851

:

know, things that I hadn't thought of.

852

:

Um, and, uh, they've been nice

enough to, you know, to, uh,

853

:

communicate with us via email back

and forth, uh, particularly Bob Rose.

854

:

Um, so, you know, I want to give a shout

out to those guys, because I only stumbled

855

:

upon them because we did our Sons of

Lambs episode, and then you sent me a

856

:

link when I was driving back from L.

857

:

A., uh, L.

858

:

A.

859

:

to Northern California,

the Sacramento area.

860

:

That's like a six hour drive, and

you sent me a link, and you're

861

:

like, Hey, check out this podcast.

862

:

They also did Sons of

Lambs, and I'm like, What?

863

:

Somebody else did Sons of Lambs, too?

864

:

So I had to listen to that.

865

:

And, uh And I was glad that we

had already done our show so

866

:

that we wouldn't be influenced.

867

:

That's, that's my biggest fear with

writer's blockbusters, is I don't want to

868

:

be influenced to change our show at all.

869

:

Um, because they're, I mean, they're so

suc I feel they're very successful in

870

:

what they do, and those guys are awesome.

871

:

Um, but, but ultimately I want to,

uh, say thanks to anyone that's been

872

:

listening, anyone that has listened.

873

:

Um, particularly, again, if you are

a writer or an aspiring writer, I am

874

:

not a genius, I am not a professor, I

am not Blake Snyder, but if you ever

875

:

took anything from any of our shows and

thought, I never thought of that, I'm

876

:

gonna, I'm gonna use that, or I'm gonna

try that in my script, then that's,

877

:

then that's, that would be the biggest

compliment, I think, either of us.

878

:

Uh, is knowing that we actually

reached somebody, you know what I mean?

879

:

I mean, we love all, any listener that is,

it takes in our show for enjoyment, for

880

:

entertainment, we do it for entertainment.

881

:

But if there's anybody that takes anything

from it, um, for their, for their own

882

:

writing, that, that's even better.

883

:

That's like the cherry on top, so.

884

:

Yeah,

885

:

Chris: and if I could just add too, I

remember telling Lee in the Jaws episode,

886

:

the idea that I'm not a screenwriter.

887

:

And I'm not a filmmaker, but just

doing this with you has helped

888

:

me just to enjoy the, the, the

viewing experience even more.

889

:

So like, you know, I mean, we've been

talking movies, my, my whole life,

890

:

you know, your whole life just about.

891

:

And, um, Yeah, just, but do it just doing

this podcast on a regular basis and you

892

:

know the idea that I start to look at

films differently I'm paying attention to

893

:

the opening scene and the closing scene

now when I didn't used to even I'd usually

894

:

get up and leave the show, you know and

895

:

Jerome: Lee said that to Lee's like I'm

gonna really take a look now whenever I go

896

:

to watch a movie Yeah, I'm gonna keep an

eye on that opening and closing image and

897

:

see See if they are bookends, you know?

898

:

Right.

899

:

Yeah.

900

:

Um, because they are bookends and,

and in a really good one, the bookends

901

:

are very, very similar, but they're

different somehow because of the

902

:

journey that happened in between.

903

:

Um, so

904

:

Chris: unless, like you noted

on the all quiet on the Western

905

:

front, they weren't different.

906

:

At the end of, at the end of that

movie, it was exactly the same.

907

:

It was, and that was, it was the exact

same shot that gave me chills, man.

908

:

I was like, so many people

died and nothing changed.

909

:

Jerome: Right.

910

:

And that's Which was the point.

911

:

That's the point of that, right?

912

:

Yeah.

913

:

Like that's, that's, and that's

kind of the sad part of it is yeah.

914

:

Uh, war happens and people die.

915

:

Um, but we are no further at

the, be at the end of this story

916

:

that we were at the beginning.

917

:

Yes.

918

:

It's, uh, life is cyclical and

war unfortunately happens again.

919

:

So,

920

:

Chris: on that note, I want to thank you.

921

:

So, thank you for opening my eyes

to, um, and to a greater, um,

922

:

movie viewing experience for me.

923

:

Because really, I, I'm pointing

stuff out to Jesse or any, you know,

924

:

if my kids are watching a movie.

925

:

Jerome: You're like, hey look,

all is lost, all is lost!

926

:

Yeah, did you see that?

927

:

Chris: Pause that, rewind

that, check that out!

928

:

I do, now, I'm probably annoying, but

929

:

Jerome: That, kids, is what we

call the dark night of the soul!

930

:

I just found that out last week, but

931

:

Chris: it does make for a better

experience when you see that stuff, you

932

:

Jerome: know, so, well, and again, I don't

want this to turn into a 30 minute gush

933

:

fest, but, uh, thank you, my brother,

I appreciate you for, uh, I mean, shit.

934

:

We would just be doing this over the

phone if it wasn't for, you know, all,

935

:

all the effort you've taken into it.

936

:

I still don't know shit about

editing podcasts, editing audio.

937

:

I don't know anything.

938

:

That's why my brother produces

this show, uh, out of pocket.

939

:

Mind you, uh, we don't have ads yet.

940

:

We have nobody paying for

this, but US goals for:

941

:

Yeah.

942

:

Goals for 2024.

943

:

Anheuser-Busch, you know, but

anyway, um, you know, but, but yeah,

944

:

you put a lot of work into this.

945

:

When the podcast, when the recording

is done, and I'm a little tipsy because

946

:

all the stuff I've been drinking,

I take my headphones off and I, you

947

:

know, and I go rejoin my household.

948

:

Like, you know, you, you then.

949

:

Put in all the work after the

show is recorded to do all the

950

:

editing, and I appreciate that.

951

:

And, uh, you know, we wouldn't have

this podcast if it wasn't for you.

952

:

Well, thank

953

:

Chris: you.

954

:

I appreciate that.

955

:

Moving ahead, um, 2024, there's some,

there's some episodes that we're, we, we

956

:

got something planned for Valentine's Day.

957

:

We've already, we're, we're getting

ready to record our January episode.

958

:

So we actually have, um, I don't

know if it's half the year planned

959

:

out already, but I'm excited.

960

:

It's gonna be, it's gonna be,

good, good quarter of it anyways.

961

:

We definitely

962

:

Jerome: got the first quarter.

963

:

Yeah.

964

:

Like, like he said, we're about to

record, uh, which we would have today.

965

:

Um, we have unexpected, uh, stork arrival.

966

:

Uh, so that, that's pushing our

recording back a little bit,

967

:

but it's all welcome for that.

968

:

You know, anytime you can bring

another baby into the world.

969

:

We can, uh, we can definitely put

stuff like this on hold, but we are

970

:

ready to record our January episode.

971

:

Do we want to talk about it or

we don't want to talk about it?

972

:

Let's keep

973

:

Chris: that, let's just keep that.

974

:

Uh, we'll, we'll promote that when

975

:

Jerome: it's time.

976

:

Alright, so we have, we have

our January episode ready to go.

977

:

We are then going to record pretty soon.

978

:

Our February Valentine's special.

979

:

Yeah.

980

:

Chris: Yep.

981

:

Looking forward to that

982

:

Jerome: one.

983

:

I think we actually mentioned

this stuff on previous podcasts.

984

:

Probably.

985

:

For us, acting like it's a big secret.

986

:

It's

987

:

Chris: okay.

988

:

We just don't need to take the time right

989

:

Jerome: now, that's all.

990

:

Right.

991

:

And then in March, usually we reserve

March for Oscar season because it's

992

:

usually when the Oscars come out.

993

:

We're anticipating, now

this one I can talk about.

994

:

Yeah.

995

:

Because we don't know yet.

996

:

We don't know the movies yet.

997

:

But we are anticipating

possibly Oppenheimer?

998

:

Maybe?

999

:

If it's up for Best Picture?

:

00:44:33,390 --> 00:44:36,130

Uh, there's a couple

others, uh, Scorsese's, uh,

:

00:44:36,130 --> 00:44:37,280

Killers of the Flower Moon.

:

00:44:37,310 --> 00:44:38,370

Still haven't seen it yet.

:

00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:39,790

Heard it's fantastic.

:

00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:40,449

Chris: Same.

:

00:44:40,449 --> 00:44:43,950

I actually heard mixed reviews on that

one, but I definitely want to see it.

:

00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,530

Haven't seen it yet.

:

00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:44,920

Yeah.

:

00:44:44,980 --> 00:44:45,340

Jerome: Yeah.

:

00:44:45,350 --> 00:44:48,089

So we, you know, so there's a

couple, uh, uh, movies that have

:

00:44:48,090 --> 00:44:51,719

come out this year that we anticipate

will be up for Best Picture.

:

00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,400

And that's usually what we use

March for, is like an Oscar special.

:

00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:58,570

Uh, and then, uh, it might even

trickle over into April if there's

:

00:44:58,570 --> 00:45:02,245

like a bunch of movies that are up

for Oscars that we love, and we can't

:

00:45:02,245 --> 00:45:05,925

fit it all into one, you know, maybe

April will be Oscar movies as well.

:

00:45:06,315 --> 00:45:06,755

Yeah.

:

00:45:06,755 --> 00:45:08,604

Um, but yeah.

:

00:45:08,614 --> 00:45:09,215

Stretch it out.

:

00:45:09,495 --> 00:45:12,854

Yeah, we're trying to keep it, like

I said, we, we like topical stuff.

:

00:45:12,855 --> 00:45:16,785

So if it's Valentine's Day, we got a

romance one coming for all you, uh,

:

00:45:17,074 --> 00:45:19,415

uh, hopeless romantics out there.

:

00:45:19,464 --> 00:45:19,764

Yeah.

:

00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,160

Yeah.

:

00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,840

And we picked a couple of good ones.

:

00:45:21,850 --> 00:45:25,290

Now, one of them I haven't seen, so

I'm, I'm hoping it's good, but he's

:

00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:26,230

Chris: taking it from me.

:

00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:26,930

I love it.

:

00:45:26,930 --> 00:45:29,580

So I, yeah, he's taking it from me.

:

00:45:29,580 --> 00:45:29,970

It's a good one.

:

00:45:29,970 --> 00:45:30,230

So,

:

00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:34,570

Jerome: um, but yeah, so:

already have sort of a slate lined

:

00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:38,740

up and, uh, again, our plan is

to do about one a month and if we

:

00:45:38,740 --> 00:45:41,550

can keep it topical, uh, we will.

:

00:45:42,295 --> 00:45:44,575

But if not, it's just

fun to pick two movies.

:

00:45:44,645 --> 00:45:48,955

Chris: And I think this is a good place

to say if you have a specific movie,

:

00:45:48,955 --> 00:45:53,515

but even more importantly, if there's

a specific topic related to filmmaking,

:

00:45:53,525 --> 00:45:58,904

screenwriting, um, please write us,

send us a voice memo on Instagram.

:

00:45:59,305 --> 00:46:03,835

Um, you know, we would love to engage with

you that way and bring it to the show.

:

00:46:03,885 --> 00:46:05,775

I think it'd be, it'd be good.

:

00:46:06,225 --> 00:46:06,445

And

:

00:46:06,445 --> 00:46:10,590

Jerome: even if you want to email us

Maybe it's questions about a script you're

:

00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,300

working on, maybe it's not even a movie.

:

00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:14,600

Maybe you just have a

question, like, hey, you know.

:

00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:18,040

Where, you know, where can I,

uh, read more about this stuff

:

00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,190

that you guys are talking about?

:

00:46:19,310 --> 00:46:19,500

Yeah.

:

00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:23,200

You know, where, where, or, um,

I'm writing a script right now, and

:

00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,890

I've got this problem in act two.

:

00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:25,790

How do I get around it?

:

00:46:25,849 --> 00:46:29,200

I'd love to hear your, your,

uh, question, and if I can be

:

00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,219

of help, that would be great.

:

00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,270

Yeah, and you

:

00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:35,170

Chris: can email us at cheers

at silverscreenhappyhour.

:

00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:35,550

com.

:

00:46:36,350 --> 00:46:37,460

Yes, we have a website now!

:

00:46:37,470 --> 00:46:39,850

Yes, we have a new, and

that's our new email, so.

:

00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,970

Um, if you email our old one,

we'll still get it, but, uh, cheers

:

00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:46,580

at silver screen, happy hour.

:

00:46:46,980 --> 00:46:47,380

com.

:

00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,190

You can email us and, uh,

yeah, love to hear from you.

:

00:46:51,219 --> 00:46:53,820

And, uh, yeah, I think we

need to land this plane.

:

00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:54,340

This is good.

:

00:46:54,349 --> 00:46:56,149

A good recap for:

:

00:46:56,830 --> 00:47:05,140

Three, a good look ahead for:

we're going to finish out this show with

:

00:47:05,150 --> 00:47:10,300

some of those teaser clips that we began

so many of our shows with this past year.

:

00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:11,440

Enjoy.

:

00:47:15,439 --> 00:47:18,550

Jerome: In fact, another interesting note,

Ethan Hawke's not even the second build.

:

00:47:18,860 --> 00:47:20,464

Robert Sean Leonard is, he's the third.

:

00:47:20,895 --> 00:47:21,315

The third build.

:

00:47:21,315 --> 00:47:23,785

The third, Ethan Hawke gets no love.

:

00:47:23,985 --> 00:47:27,125

He's the third build and it's his film.

:

00:47:27,155 --> 00:47:30,165

Ethan Hawke, if you ever hear

this, you are the lead my friend.

:

00:47:30,314 --> 00:47:34,165

You are the lead in Dead Poets Society

and you are the lead in Training Day.

:

00:47:34,274 --> 00:47:36,434

You should have got above

the title on both of those.

:

00:47:36,514 --> 00:47:40,025

You should have got above Robin and

above Denzel on both of those posters.

:

00:47:40,355 --> 00:47:42,635

But of course, alas, that would

never happen to producers.

:

00:47:42,635 --> 00:47:43,515

They would never allow that.

:

00:47:43,945 --> 00:47:47,834

And you sir I remember

I'm like, who's this kid?

:

00:47:47,835 --> 00:47:51,665

You sir, have been screwed

because you are the best actor.

:

00:47:51,815 --> 00:47:53,295

You are the lead in those.

:

00:47:53,985 --> 00:47:55,895

And they're your films and

they were robbed of you.

:

00:47:55,965 --> 00:47:59,015

And hopefully, thankfully, people

like me can see your greatness as

:

00:47:59,015 --> 00:48:00,194

the lead in both of these films.

:

00:48:00,264 --> 00:48:00,999

And I know that they will.

:

00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,570

The screenwriters somewhere are saying,

yes, of course, finally somebody gets it.

:

00:48:04,660 --> 00:48:07,730

But that, that's my, that's why I wanted

to do an Ethan Hawke day to show my

:

00:48:07,730 --> 00:48:11,860

love and appreciation for the guy that

keeps getting noted as a supporting

:

00:48:11,860 --> 00:48:14,060

role in films that are obviously his.

:

00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:19,379

And then as he's recovering now, right.

:

00:48:19,709 --> 00:48:21,369

He sees all those letters.

:

00:48:22,220 --> 00:48:25,560

And what's interesting is that

earlier in the film, the wife said,

:

00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:27,190

You see all those damn letters?

:

00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:28,220

They're all from chicks.

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Why don't I throw their panties at you?

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You know what I mean?

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Which, by the way, in Elvis,

the chicks were throwing their

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literal panties at Elvis.

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And the one guy's like, Is that a

woman's undergarment I just saw?

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Sorry.

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Her agent and her lied

and said she was British.

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She came up with this whole back story

about being born in England or something.

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And her parents had horses and shit.

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Like she made up this whole fucking story.

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That's awesome.

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And she goes in there.

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She nailed the audition, gets the part.

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And she said halfway through production,

she was talking to somebody on the set.

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And her normal voice, and Scorsese

heard her, and goes, That's

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an amazing American accent!

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And she goes, she goes, Yeah,

uh, about that, I'm American!

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I was actually born in Georgia!

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And he goes, What?

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And she goes, Yeah, I

faked the whole audition!

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And apparently he loved it.

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He just started rolling.

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And you can imagine Scorsese just

laughing his ass off at that.

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Don't give me another scene.

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Don't try to explain

anything with another scene.

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Just go to black, and I want

to see All I want to see right

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now is directed by Ari Aster.

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That's all I want to see!

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Give it to me, give it to me,

give it to me, give it And

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they did, and I was like, YES!

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And I looked at mom and I

said, I fucking loved it!

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Mom's like, WHAT?

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Mom's horrified, right?

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Poor mom has no fucking clue

what I just went through as a

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film lover and a screenwriter.

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Mom's terrified!

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She's mortified!

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All right, we're gonna

have to cut all this out.

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Because we're losing my

brother in a heart attack.

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Oh my god.

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Holy

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Chris: shit.

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Yeah, you have to take

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Jerome: this because I can't.

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Oh my god.

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So Is this going to be the thing we

use at the commercial for this show?

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Just us freaking dying

during a horror movie.

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What the hell are we talking about?

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We were so pumped for today.

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I was, I was telling people at work,

I'm like Dude, I'm going on a I'm going

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to be in a fucking Australia tonight.

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I'm I'm talking to Australia tonight.

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And they're like, what

are you talking about?

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00:50:54,675 --> 00:50:56,305

I'm like, shut up and listen!

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Just listen to it.

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Do it.

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I'm going to be in Australia.

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That's me.

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I'm worldwide now.

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Oh my god.

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Christmas isn't even mentioned in

the It's a Wonderful Life logline.

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But it's mentioned in the Die Hard log.

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So suck on that, people.

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Suck on that.

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Die Hard, I have just proven

to you, is a Christmas movie.

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I think the argument is dead now.

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We can move on.

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Jerome Wiegand

Born and raised in Metro Detroit, Michigan. Graduate of Columbia College Chicago with a degree in Film/Screenwriting. Have lived in California since 2001. I enjoy screenwriting, script consulting and film analysis.
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