Silence Of The Midsommar Part 1

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Don't give me another scene.

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Don't try to explain

anything with another scene.

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Just go to black, and I want

to see All I want to see right

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now is directed by Ari Aster.

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That's all I want to see!

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Give it to me, give it to me,

give it to me, give it And

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they did, and I was like, YES!

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And I looked at mom and I

said, I fucking loved it!

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Mom's like, WHAT?

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Mom's horrified, right?

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Poor mom has no fucking clue

what I just went through as a

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film lover and a screenwriter.

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Mom's terrified!

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She's mortified!

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You are listening to the

Silver Screen Happy Hour.

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I'm Chris Wiegand, along

with my brother, Jerome.

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And I can honestly say that I

think we had more fun on this

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episode than any other to date.

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There's probably a couple

of reasons for that.

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We recorded it earlier in the

year, just anticipating that we

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would release it on Halloween.

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We got into this and Midsommar

and Silence of the Lambs are two

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of my brother's favorite movies.

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I, you know, I think he talks about, uh,

the ranking of both in the podcast, but,

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uh, you'll, you'll hear it in his voice.

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He's just downright giddy as soon as

we started recording and I enjoyed it.

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I just.

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I don't know, I think he nearly broke

me, uh, in Silence of the Lambs, um.

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We recorded so long that as soon

as we finished Midsommar, we

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realized we were way too long.

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So we decided this had to come

out as a part one and part two.

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So instead of releasing them both

on Halloween, we decided to release

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part one, Silence of the Midsommar

part one, uh, which covers Midsommar.

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That's this episode.

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On Friday the 13th.

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And in a couple of weeks, we

will release part two of Silence

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of the Midsommar on Halloween.

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And that one we will cover

Silence of the Lambs.

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with that said, I'm gonna get

the recording of our conversation

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on the film reel for you.

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And I just want to ask

you to do one thing.

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If you are enjoying our show, share

it with somebody and let us know.

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We would absolutely appreciate it.

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Alright, so what are the movies for today?

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And what are we drinking?

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Uh, well the movies, usually

you're the one that...

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Let me just hand it back to you

because you've been like chomping

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at the bit dying for this day.

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There is, there is no bit left to chomp.

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It's gone.

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I've swallowed it.

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That's how much I've been

chomping at the bit for this day.

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This might rival the excitement I had

for the Star Wars anniversary podcast.

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Um, today we are discussing

two utter gems for me.

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Um, 1991's Silence of the Lambs,

rected by Jonathan Demme, and: 2019

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Midsommar, directed by Ari Aster.

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Um, I have to say that

these are two of my...

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Favorite films.

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Um, well I wouldn't say Midsommar's

cracked like, like my top ten

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in any way, I don't think.

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Um, but it was certainly

my favorite film of: 2019

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And I could not tell you how disappointed

I was when it got zero Oscar nominations.

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Um, and, and, You know, recently

I went back and looked at the

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Oscar nominations for that year.

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And I remember thinking it

should have got a Best Picture

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nomination instead of that film.

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Or it should have gotten screenplay

at least instead of that film.

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You know, I'm not gonna say which ones.

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But I definitely thought

it deserved to be in there.

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And Florence Pugh should

have been nominated for Best

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Actress in there somewhere.

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And I'm not saying she wins any of these.

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I'm not saying it wins at all.

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But to completely snub this film

on an Oscar front is just...

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Yeah, so it's very fresh for me

because I watched it twice yesterday,

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and I've been very disturbed today

because I couldn't sleep last night.

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So were this the first

two times watching it?

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Yeah, yeah, I had never saw it before.

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Oh my god.

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I, uh, so, let's start off by, well, let's

start off with, what are we drinking?

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Let's do that first.

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Okay, alright, so I, um, I have to preface

this by saying, I am backing up with beer.

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I do have beer today.

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Oh, don't mix.

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Don't mix.

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No, no, no.

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It's not about mixing.

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It's about in case this doesn't work out.

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Because I have...

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Wait, let me get it.

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Let me get it.

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Okay, I have in my possession,

in honor of Silence of the Lambs,

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I bought a bottle of Chianti.

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A nice Chianti.

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From the famous line, A census

taker once tried to test me.

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I ate his liver with some

fava beans and a nice Chianti.

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Unfortunately, this is not a nice Chianti.

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This was on clearance

at CVS Pharmacy for 5.

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97.

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Probably worth every penny.

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You're Full disclosure.

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I'm not a wine guy.

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I'm really not.

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Shocker.

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So I don't, I don't expect

this to turn out well.

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I'm going to have a glass and

we'll see if I can even finish it.

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Um, but I do have my

backup Mic Ultras ready.

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My, uh, my lightsabers.

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Um, so what are you drinking?

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So, I went with...

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Uh, one of my favorite breweries here

in Michigan, Shorts Brewing Company.

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We've had them on before.

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Um, they should be paying us.

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I'm actually going to their

brewery, uh, in June with Jesse and

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about four or six of our friends.

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And, uh, it's gonna be fun.

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But this beer is called Evil Urges.

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A Belgian, I wish it was

Swedish, but it's not.

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It's a Belgian dark, uh, Belgian

style dark ale brewed with amber.

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Candy sugar, whatever that is.

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So, it sounds sweet.

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We're gonna see.

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Oh, that sounded...

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I don't know what the ABV is.

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It doesn't say on the

can, which is unusual.

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It's a very dark beer.

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Oh, that sounds thick.

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That's very thick.

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Very nice head.

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Oh man, it is sweet.

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Sounded like, like, like lecter just now.

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Oh, that is frickin tasty.

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Is it good?

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Oh, yeah.

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Mmm.

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I think it's a high ABV.

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I don't know what this is.

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I'm gonna have to look it up.

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Come on.

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I heard the pop.

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Did you get it?

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Yeah.

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Alright, now let's do a...

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Holy crap.

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What we would call a drone pour.

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Half the bottle.

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I really, I really shouldn't, not knowing

what I'm getting myself into here.

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You probably, I don't know.

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You probably like them

sweet, I bet, but...

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Is Chianti sweet?

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I don't know.

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I've never had Chianti before.

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I believe, I believe it's a dry red.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and

see if it wasn't for Salsa Lems.

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I don't know if I'd ever

know what Chianti was.

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Taste it.

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Tell me, tell me.

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Okay, you ready?

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Let's take our first drink.

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You just went with yours.

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Oh, yeah.

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Alright, I'm going to try the Hannibal.

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I'm surprised that on my

beer app, it only has a 3.

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6 average rating.

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Shocks me.

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Okay.

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I would definitely give it over a four.

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Oh, I did.

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I've rated this before.

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I forgot I've had it.

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So I ra, I gave it a 4.25 , so

my taste hasn't changed.

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Okay, here we go.

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Are you ready?

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Mm-hmm.

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. This is for Hannibal Lecter.

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Now the look on your face, , I can't

tell you if it's good or not because

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you don't know because I'm not a

wine drinker, so it's not sweet.

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Right.

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To me, this could taste

like absolute shit.

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I don't know.

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Compared to communion

wine, what do you think?

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It tastes a lot like communion wine.

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Are you telling me they've been

giving me Hannibal Lecter style

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Chianti in church every Sunday

since I, since I had communion?

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Oh, I better not comment

because I'll go to hell.

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Um, it's actually not bad.

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Now they said I did look up to whether

or not to have it chilled or not and

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it said Chianti should be chilled.

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So I, I had.

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The bottle, and I kept it on its side

to keep the cork moist, of course.

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You wine drinkers know

what I'm talking about.

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Put it in the cooler,

get it nice and cool.

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I even chilled my wine

glass before I poured it in.

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So, you know, uh, it's one

of those that it's, um, um,

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So, I don't know if I'm...

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The look on your face!

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We got...

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I don't know if I'm

gonna finish the glass.

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I'm certainly not going to finish the

bottle, I could tell you that much.

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I will eventually switch to

beer, in which case you will

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hear the cracking of my can open.

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Um, but I had to, in honor of

Lector, I had to give it a try.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Um, where do we start?

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Because, let me, let's

start with some disclaimers.

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Uh, if you've been traumatized by a

serial killer, you might be triggered.

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Um, if you have a friend in a

cult, you might be triggered.

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Uh, in the, there's, we're

going to talk about suicide.

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That's a trigger.

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I mean, it's, it's, and who's

not affected by suicide now?

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Um, so there's a lot of things.

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Especially.

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How graphic this one goes.

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Oh, so yeah, let's do you

want to start with Midsommar?

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Actually.

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Yeah, that's fine.

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I don't care I really don't care.

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Let's start with Midsommar.

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Before you jump in Let me just let me

just say out the gate cuz I just watched

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it So I passively watched it the first

time I was busy doing other things while

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it was on But I was I was trying to take

some in knowing I was gonna rewatch it

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later And then I rewatched it knowing

what I was in for Probably not the best

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way to take in a movie, but um, But I

was able to, I was able to catch some

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things the second time that I missed.

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I was gonna say, it's better

the second time around.

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Yeah, um, but I, I would So, I told

you I was texting you, and uh, I said,

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I gave it an F, and then I said, oh,

the, I meant F, E F F, it was EFT.

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It was an EFT movie.

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When I first got that message

from you, I give it an F, I was

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like, is he out of his mind?

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Are we watching the same movie?

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So, here's the thing though.

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It is an effed up movie.

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Yes.

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I'm censoring myself here.

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I don't know why it's an effed up movie.

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It demands the F word.

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Um, I will do that for you.

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So, but, I will, I agree with you.

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That it was snubbed 100%.

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It was snubbed at the Oscars.

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I, I don't know why it wasn't nominated.

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Cause I, I do believe

it's a horror masterpiece.

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I mean, it's, it's, it was brilliant.

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I mean, the directing, the sound.

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So many, even the visuals when they

were on their highs, their trips.

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Yeah, yeah.

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There's some mushroom trips.

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Oh, here's another thing.

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Yeah, so if you've been triggered

by a bad acid trip or a bad mushroom

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trip, don't watch this movie.

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I'm just going to tell you right

now, do not watch this movie.

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I did acid in high school and I

was like, I was having flashbacks

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of like some rough trip bad.

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Will, Will, Will Poulter's

character is, uh, Um, I hope I'm,

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I hope I'm pronouncing that right.

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I hope, uh, cause, uh, I, I

believe, uh, I, I, is he European?

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I think he's European in real life.

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But, so, I might be, I mean, he might

have a European sounding last name, but

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Will Poulter for, as far as, It's written.

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Um, he's, he's the comic relief

of this movie pretty much.

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And when he's like, they're having

their trip and he's all, oh man,

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there's a new person coming.

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I can't take any more new people.

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And that is 100 percent real.

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Anyone that's done, anyone that's

done hallucinogens knows you can't,

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you can't add a new person to a trip.

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It's just, it's just, it'll go bad.

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Yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

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So.

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But yeah, I, I think in, like, um,

the visuals, like you said, like, um,

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so to have a horror movie that is 100

percent set in the daytime is unusual.

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It's bright and sunny in

just about every scene.

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I mean, there's some indoor

scenes that aren't as bright.

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Or actually, I should,

I should take that back.

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In the very beginning

of the movie, it's dark.

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Well, and there's, and, and,

there is a nighttime scene.

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Yeah, but it's, But almost

virtually nothing happens.

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No, no, I mean when she has her nightmare,

it's dark out, but it's all of, it's all

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of a two minute nightmare that she has.

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And I, and I want to say, well,

no, no, no, there is another part.

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Um, uh, we'll, we'll get to it.

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It's, it's one of the,

it's one of the murders.

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But anyway, um, again, full disclosure,

we're going to have to talk endings.

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Oh, we got to spoil this one.

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So if you, if you plan on watching

this, just shut it off right now.

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Go watch it and come back to the podcast

because we're going to ruin it for

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you if you, if you want to surprise.

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And as far as Sons of Lambs goes, I mean,

come on, that's what, 30 years ago now?

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Yes, long time ago.

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So, so you, you obviously everyone has,

should have seen it or at least knows.

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The gist of what happens in the movie,

um, also, uh, it's fair to mention

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that, um, we've brought up Midsommar in

previous podcasts, and I remember saying,

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uh, when we talk about great writing

and like how it ends and you know when

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the ending is, it's perfect, it's so

perfect that remember you saying that,

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so when it happened, I'm like, yep.

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That, that was perfect.

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Credits roll.

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Roll the credits now.

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Don't add another scene.

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Roll the credits right now.

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It's perfect.

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And it ends so, I mean, God,

what, and talk about a coming

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out party for Florence Pugh.

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Uh, she was also in the, uh, a remake

of the film Little Women that year.

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Jesse reminded me of that.

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And that just splashed

her all over the map.

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So, I mean, and of course now she's, you

know, she's in Marvel movies now, and

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now she's going to be in the Dune sequel.

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Another person I did not know that

was in this, because I hadn't seen it,

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William Jackson Harper, who also is

in The Good Place, loved that show.

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Our family loves that show.

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That's made by the, what's his name, who

made the, The Office and Parks and Rec.

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Oh right, um, the guy who plays Mose?

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Yeah, he plays Mose, yeah.

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But anyways, William Jackson

Harper, great actor, and he

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played a great part in this movie.

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And he is, uh, he, he's, um,

what's his name in the movie?

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What's his name in the movie?

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It is, uh, Josh.

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They just call him Josh.

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Oh right, he plays Josh.

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No, he, yeah, that's right.

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He plays Josh.

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So there are, uh, for anyone that

doesn't know, we'll recap this basically.

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There's, um, there's these four friends.

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Christian, Josh, Uh, Pele and, uh,

Will Poulter's character, Mark.

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Mark.

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: 00:15:42

Every time I mention him he's

funny because he brings so

331

: 00:15:44

much comedy to the movie.

332

: 00:15:45

Yeah.

333

: 00:15:45

But, so, they are planning this.

334

: 00:15:47

I bet he pissed on the ancestral tree.

335

: 00:15:49

The ancestral tree.

336

: 00:15:52

That guy's gonna kill me, isn't he?

337

: 00:15:52

Yeah.

338

: 00:15:52

Later, Ulf, Ulf is staring him down.

339

: 00:15:56

He's like, looks like somebody's

still pissed about the ancestral tree.

340

: 00:16:00

Um.

341

: 00:16:00

And he's like, is he gonna kill me?

342

: 00:16:02

Anyway, um, so, oddly enough, he

had no idea how true that was.

343

: 00:16:06

So, um, so these four guys

are planning the Swedish trip.

344

: 00:16:10

The movie opens, though, the movie

is not from their point of view.

345

: 00:16:12

It's, it's Danny Arter,

uh, Danielle Arter.

346

: 00:16:17

She is played by Florence Pugh.

347

: 00:16:19

She's the lead in the film.

348

: 00:16:20

She suffers a, a tragic event.

349

: 00:16:25

Like, it can all, we'll

get into it in a second.

350

: 00:16:27

But, uh, the most, uh,

horrific way to open a film.

351

: 00:16:31

Um, and, and then...

352

: 00:16:36

She finds out that her boyfriend,

her rather uncaring boyfriend, who's

353

: 00:16:40

been planning on breaking up with

her, behind her back, he talks to

354

: 00:16:44

his friends about how he's wanted to

break up with her for about a year.

355

: 00:16:47

He's quite a douche.

356

: 00:16:48

Yeah, the trauma she goes through at the

beginning now is going to affect that.

357

: 00:16:52

It's a bummer for Christian

now, he can't break up with her.

358

: 00:16:55

You know, like, it's all, you

know, oh no, now I can't break

359

: 00:16:59

up with her, I have to...

360

: 00:17:00

Be there for her or whatever.

361

: 00:17:02

Well, I'll add, I'll add also like

his friends were also kind of, I

362

: 00:17:06

mean, they're, they weren't jerks.

363

: 00:17:08

They seem like decent guys.

364

: 00:17:09

They're a bunch of college college kids

or, you know, probably in graduate school.

365

: 00:17:13

I think they were talking about

dissertations for their, their graduate

366

: 00:17:16

degree or whatever, but, um, but

they, they were pretty shallow and

367

: 00:17:20

like, they were just kind of cold

about his, his relationship with her.

368

: 00:17:24

So they, so they set the tone right

at that beginning about them kind

369

: 00:17:28

of shit talking her, you know, her.

370

: 00:17:30

Yeah, she's emotional and all this stuff.

371

: 00:17:32

So they kind of had a bro thing

going on and you kind of felt like

372

: 00:17:36

oh, yeah, they don't They're not

in it for the relationship, right?

373

: 00:17:41

There's, there's even a line

in there that I believe Mark

374

: 00:17:45

gives when they're at the bar.

375

: 00:17:47

And he says, just drop her or something.

376

: 00:17:50

And he goes, and then you know what, maybe

you'll meet a chick who likes to have sex.

377

: 00:17:53

And it's just one line.

378

: 00:17:55

It's a throwaway line.

379

: 00:17:56

It's a loaded line.

380

: 00:17:57

But you start to get the sense

that, you know, Florence Pugh's

381

: 00:18:00

character, Danny, she has trouble.

382

: 00:18:02

Opening up, you know, has

trouble with, trouble with, uh,

383

: 00:18:05

uh, affection and closeness.

384

: 00:18:08

Maybe she has trouble

opening up with douchebags.

385

: 00:18:10

Yeah, and, and maybe just a tad,

and maybe just a tad prudish or

386

: 00:18:16

maybe even on the virgin side.

387

: 00:18:17

We don't know.

388

: 00:18:18

It's just a line that indicates that

the sexual history between her and her

389

: 00:18:23

boyfriend Christian is non existent,

if not, uh, uh, flawed in whatever way.

390

: 00:18:31

It's not existent enough for

Christian, that's for sure.

391

: 00:18:34

Um, but anyway, so, uh, she

decides that she wants to go

392

: 00:18:39

with them on this Swedish trip.

393

: 00:18:41

Or he asks her, sort of like,

expecting her to say no.

394

: 00:18:45

She doesn't.

395

: 00:18:46

Talk about that for a second.

396

: 00:18:47

They all planned the trip and

he didn't even talk to her and

397

: 00:18:50

tell her that they were gonna go.

398

: 00:18:52

Right.

399

: 00:18:52

Until they're at a party.

400

: 00:18:53

She found out two weeks

before they were gonna leave.

401

: 00:18:55

Yeah.

402

: 00:18:56

For a month, mind you.

403

: 00:18:56

For a bunch of dicks.

404

: 00:18:58

I mean, that's just a, that's a dick move

to not even talk to your girlfriend about,

405

: 00:19:01

Hey, I'm leaving for a month or two.

406

: 00:19:03

For a month, yeah.

407

: 00:19:04

Yeah.

408

: 00:19:05

So, that was just...

409

: 00:19:07

But they did a good job, so

that's, that's another thing about

410

: 00:19:09

the writing and the directing.

411

: 00:19:11

They did a great job setting the stage.

412

: 00:19:14

Of the, of the dynamic of

these relationships before

413

: 00:19:17

they enter the, the next scene.

414

: 00:19:19

Because they are all so important.

415

: 00:19:22

And, and again, how this film did not get

a screenplay nomination, I don't know.

416

: 00:19:26

Um, because it all ties in.

417

: 00:19:28

It's like a perfectly woven quilt with

every thread having its own meaning.

418

: 00:19:33

And you just blend it all together.

419

: 00:19:35

Um.

420

: 00:19:37

Which is what great writing is.

421

: 00:19:38

But anyway, so she decides

to go on this trip with them.

422

: 00:19:41

And of course, then it starts to take

a turn into somewhat of a horror film.

423

: 00:19:45

Uh, where they're at this,

uh, this cult like commune.

424

: 00:19:50

And, um, they meet some

other Swedish people.

425

: 00:19:55

It's in Sweden.

426

: 00:19:57

Uh, one of the guys has brought

two of his guests from Europe.

427

: 00:20:00

I can't remember if they

said, was it London?

428

: 00:20:03

Okay, I was going to say London

or Paris, where Connie and,

429

: 00:20:06

uh, oh, what's the other guy?

430

: 00:20:08

Uh, the two, yeah, the

two, the, the, the couple.

431

: 00:20:13

I'm sorry, that Ingmar brought,

Ingmar was the name of Pele's friend.

432

: 00:20:17

Pele is the one that takes him to this,

by the way, because he's from there.

433

: 00:20:20

It's his family.

434

: 00:20:21

Is it Simon and Connie?

435

: 00:20:22

I'm looking at the cast list.

436

: 00:20:23

Simon.

437

: 00:20:23

It is, it's Simon.

438

: 00:20:24

So Simon and Connie were brought

by Ingmar, who is Pele's friend.

439

: 00:20:30

Uh, and Pele brought three,

or sorry, four Americans.

440

: 00:20:33

So it's, it's like they, they get

to bring people to this thing.

441

: 00:20:37

And this specific version of the Midsummer

event takes place once every 90 years.

442

: 00:20:44

What Pele leaves out is that there's

going to be some sacrificing of people.

443

: 00:20:51

Um, What's crazy about that though,

what really blew me away is they,

444

: 00:20:58

they played it off like, I think

it was halfway through the movie

445

: 00:21:03

before I realized, oh my god, he, he

brought them here to be sacrificed.

446

: 00:21:10

Yep.

447

: 00:21:11

Yeah, and because like, At first,

you're like, wow, that's so, like, so

448

: 00:21:16

let's get into the, the, the, what,

what happens, like, the day, the first

449

: 00:21:21

full day they're there, the day after

they trip, and they're, you know,

450

: 00:21:24

they get there, and, uh, they have

that ceremony that you were just about

451

: 00:21:29

to start that, but there's the...

452

: 00:21:32

I forgot what they called it, but

it's basically a ceremonial suicide,

453

: 00:21:36

um, with, uh, 72 year olds, right?

454

: 00:21:40

Wait, yeah, let's get it.

455

: 00:21:40

We're getting ahead of ourselves now.

456

: 00:21:42

Well, okay.

457

: 00:21:43

But, but what I'm, I guess the only

reason I brought that up is, um, You

458

: 00:21:47

have that trauma early in the movie,

and you're like, wow, so it kind of

459

: 00:21:51

dis, disorients you a little bit,

and you're like, holy crap, this is

460

: 00:21:54

a weird commune, but this is just a

weird aspect of their, their tradition.

461

: 00:21:59

Well, it's, it's not too early.

462

: 00:22:01

It's right before the midpoint scene.

463

: 00:22:02

Isn't that late, far?

464

: 00:22:04

Yeah, it's right before halfway.

465

: 00:22:06

Okay.

466

: 00:22:07

And it's important that it lands there.

467

: 00:22:09

Um, but, it lands there.

468

: 00:22:11

No pun intended.

469

: 00:22:13

Sorry.

470

: 00:22:15

For the two old sorry 72 year olds.

471

: 00:22:18

That lady face planted, man.

472

: 00:22:20

I was gonna say, who

meet their untimely doom.

473

: 00:22:23

But it's very timely.

474

: 00:22:25

Oh no.

475

: 00:22:26

And, hey, no.

476

: 00:22:28

Hey, for the record,

the lady does it right.

477

: 00:22:29

It's the guy that screws it up.

478

: 00:22:31

I know.

479

: 00:22:32

The guy fights it up again.

480

: 00:22:33

Why did he go feet first?

481

: 00:22:34

Because he was a pussy at the end.

482

: 00:22:36

He ended up being a pussy.

483

: 00:22:38

And he, and he jumped so half heartedly

falls slash jumps off the clip.

484

: 00:22:44

All right, it's so, so traumatizing.

485

: 00:22:51

In this commune, your life

goes in seasons, okay?

486

: 00:22:57

And I believe I wrote it down here so

I wouldn't forget the actual seasons.

487

: 00:23:01

Um, oh jeez, where is it?

488

: 00:23:03

Where is it?

489

: 00:23:05

Where is it?

490

: 00:23:06

Um, oh man.

491

: 00:23:10

Oh, okay.

492

: 00:23:11

So, zero to eighteen is spring.

493

: 00:23:15

That's where you're a child and you're

coming of age and learning shit.

494

: 00:23:19

Thirteen I'm sorry, eighteen

to thirty six is summer.

495

: 00:23:23

It's what they call your pilgrimage.

496

: 00:23:24

It's where you go to this festival.

497

: 00:23:26

Right?

498

: 00:23:27

Between eighteen and thirty six.

499

: 00:23:29

And then thirty six to fifty four is fall.

500

: 00:23:34

That's what they call your working age.

501

: 00:23:36

That's where you, you know, take care

of the commune and you do all your shit.

502

: 00:23:40

54 to 72, you're called mentor.

503

: 00:23:42

So that's where you mentor people, and

you're basically retired and whatever.

504

: 00:23:47

And then, Danny has a line in there

where she's like, What happens after 72?

505

: 00:23:51

And Pelly just sort of looks at her and

laughs, and he's, And then he does the

506

: 00:23:53

thing, you know, with the, the throat.

507

: 00:23:56

Yeah, he pulls his hand across his throat

like he's gonna get, like he'd die.

508

: 00:24:00

Yeah, like he'd die.

509

: 00:24:01

And nobody says anything!

510

: 00:24:02

I know!

511

: 00:24:03

They just kind of laugh.

512

: 00:24:05

They think he's joking, whatever.

513

: 00:24:07

And then they go to the ceremony, where

two old people have apparently reached 72.

514

: 00:24:14

And it's time for them to go.

515

: 00:24:17

And they go up to this cliff.

516

: 00:24:18

It's very ceremonial.

517

: 00:24:19

They cut their palms and they write

their blood on this ceremonial stone.

518

: 00:24:23

And everybody's chanting

and blah, blah, blah.

519

: 00:24:25

And they're all in robes.

520

: 00:24:26

And they get up there.

521

: 00:24:28

And the Americans and the couple

from London are watching this like,

522

: 00:24:33

Wow, I wonder what's going to happen.

523

: 00:24:34

And the woman just fucking falls over.

524

: 00:24:37

Swan dives.

525

: 00:24:40

Like she's going to

belly flop into a pool.

526

: 00:24:43

And she lands face first on this

fuckin rock, and her head just fuckin

527

: 00:24:47

explodes, just like, like a piñata,

just shit, just flies everywhere.

528

: 00:24:52

And then, and everybody's mortified,

except the commune people, right?

529

: 00:24:57

Because they do this shit all the

time, so they're like, whatever.

530

: 00:25:00

But the Americans are horrified,

and the couple from London

531

: 00:25:03

is absolutely losing it.

532

: 00:25:05

Like, Simon is absolutely losing it.

533

: 00:25:07

And here's why this

works as a horror film.

534

: 00:25:10

I mean, if that were to happen in

like, I don't know, something about

535

: 00:25:15

the setting being so bright and happy

and shiny and, and all the people

536

: 00:25:21

are, this is just, this is just what

we do, you know, it's just normal.

537

: 00:25:25

Yeah.

538

: 00:25:25

Yeah.

539

: 00:25:25

And that, with the juxtaposition

of all the, the, the western,

540

: 00:25:30

the, the, you know, the, The

people from, uh, London and the U.

541

: 00:25:34

S.

542

: 00:25:34

are just in horror.

543

: 00:25:35

Absolute horror.

544

: 00:25:37

Um, I mean, it was, it

was stark, you know, so.

545

: 00:25:41

Yeah, it was, it was fantastic.

546

: 00:25:43

And then, of course, the old man,

it's his turn now, the husband.

547

: 00:25:46

And he just wimps out at the last second.

548

: 00:25:48

Doesn't want to land on

his face, apparently.

549

: 00:25:51

What he wanted to do...

550

: 00:25:53

Was laying on his feet.

551

: 00:25:56

Like a fucking cat.

552

: 00:25:58

Unfortunately, he's not a cat.

553

: 00:26:00

He's a brutal 72 year old man.

554

: 00:26:02

So his feet look like, his legs

end up looking like a pretzel

555

: 00:26:05

by the time he hits the ground.

556

: 00:26:07

They're all mangled and shit

and bones are sticking out

557

: 00:26:10

and blood's flying everywhere.

558

: 00:26:11

Screaming, writhing in pain.

559

: 00:26:13

And they're prepared for this.

560

: 00:26:15

Oh yeah.

561

: 00:26:16

Because apparently this shit might

happen a lot, where they chicken out at

562

: 00:26:19

the last moment, and they don't go face

first onto the rock, they go feet first.

563

: 00:26:23

They know it's gonna jack them

up anyway, so they're prepared.

564

: 00:26:26

They bring a big ass mallet with them.

565

: 00:26:30

Where they proceed to

crush this dude's skull.

566

: 00:26:32

This is like a wild e coyote mallet.

567

: 00:26:35

Folks, folks, folks, I

implore you, listen to me.

568

: 00:26:40

If you think this is one of those

movies that don't show it...

569

: 00:26:43

Oh no.

570

: 00:26:43

Where they're about, they're

about to swing the mallet and

571

: 00:26:46

then the camera cuts away.

572

: 00:26:48

This isn't one of those movies.

573

: 00:26:49

No, not one of those.

574

: 00:26:50

You're gonna see what a mallet

does to an old man's face.

575

: 00:26:53

Okay?

576

: 00:26:54

Not what does to his skull.

577

: 00:26:56

I mean.

578

: 00:26:56

Yeah, like just completely crushes it in.

579

: 00:26:59

And they're not done, they pass it to

each other and they all take a lick.

580

: 00:27:02

Everyone gets a whack at it.

581

: 00:27:04

Everyone gets a whack.

582

: 00:27:05

It's tradition.

583

: 00:27:06

It's what we do.

584

: 00:27:07

So, so.

585

: 00:27:08

Alright, so, alright, so, so, uh, I have

to say, before we continue, One of the

586

: 00:27:15

things that made me want to go see this

movie originally was, I was reading...

587

: 00:27:18

And wait a minute, hold on, let me

just tell the audience right now, You

588

: 00:27:22

took our mother to see this movie!

589

: 00:27:24

Yes, it's fair to say, now wait,

before we even get to that...

590

: 00:27:27

I can't believe you took mine to see this!

591

: 00:27:29

So I was reading...

592

: 00:27:31

My poor mother, for anyone that's

listening to this, I have taken my

593

: 00:27:34

mother to see Leaving Las Vegas.

594

: 00:27:36

Wait, wasn't she 72 when she saw it?

595

: 00:27:40

Uh, maybe?

596

: 00:27:42

No, wait.

597

: 00:27:43

Not even, it came out in 19, right?

598

: 00:27:46

Right, and then she's one of 48.

599

: 00:27:46

She turned 70 in 18, so she was 71.

600

: 00:27:49

She was gonna turn 72 that year.

601

: 00:27:52

She's 71, yeah.

602

: 00:27:53

She was in her final year of mentorship.

603

: 00:27:54

Dude, that's so messed up.

604

: 00:27:57

So I've taken my mother

to sea leaving Las Vegas.

605

: 00:27:59

I've taken my mother to sea I've

taken my mother to see all kinds

606

: 00:28:04

of horrific films that a young lad

should not take his mother to see.

607

: 00:28:09

Oh no.

608

: 00:28:09

This was one of them.

609

: 00:28:10

I took my mother to see Midsommar.

610

: 00:28:12

And the reason I wanted to

see it was Jordan Poole.

611

: 00:28:18

Uh, Peele, I'm sorry, Jordan Peele.

612

: 00:28:20

Jordan Peele, um, from, everyone knows

him comically from Key and Peele.

613

: 00:28:23

Yeah.

614

: 00:28:24

He's also a writer director, he did,

uh, Get Out, and, um, the most recent

615

: 00:28:30

one, uh, Nope, and, uh, other, there was

another one, I think it was called Us?

616

: 00:28:35

Yeah, I've not seen any of them,

and I, I really need to, cause I've

617

: 00:28:38

heard such great things about them.

618

: 00:28:39

Yeah, oh yeah, they're great,

but you should watch them.

619

: 00:28:42

In order of, of, when they came out.

620

: 00:28:44

None of them are connected, but you can

see Jordan Peele's sort of progression.

621

: 00:28:49

As a writer, director, his

films get creepier as they go.

622

: 00:28:52

And, uh, so we start with Get Out.

623

: 00:28:54

Uh, it was the one who won the

Oscar for best screenplay for it.

624

: 00:28:57

He said in an interview, I

had no idea about Midsommar,

625

: 00:29:00

I'd never even heard of it.

626

: 00:29:02

I might have saw a trailer, or not

even a trailer, just a billboard or

627

: 00:29:05

something of the girl crying where you

said it looks like Leonardo DiCaprio.

628

: 00:29:08

So that picture, that picture was

on a billboard somewhere, so I

629

: 00:29:12

only knew of it by a billboard.

630

: 00:29:14

Jordan Peele said in some sort of

interview or whatever, It's the

631

: 00:29:17

greatest horror film he's ever seen.

632

: 00:29:19

Or, it's, it's the quintessential

horror film, or something like that.

633

: 00:29:23

He gave it some high praise.

634

: 00:29:24

Right.

635

: 00:29:25

And I remember watching Get Out and

loving it and thinking, If Jordan

636

: 00:29:28

Peele thinks Midsommar is that

good, I gotta go fuckin see it.

637

: 00:29:32

Yeah.

638

: 00:29:32

So I took Mom.

639

: 00:29:37

Zero regrets.

640

: 00:29:39

Zero regrets.

641

: 00:29:41

So, I, I was trying to figure out, like,

did I get some unrated version because...

642

: 00:29:47

There were no filters when it came

to nudity and, you know, I mean, did

643

: 00:29:53

they show all that in the theater?

644

: 00:29:54

Yep.

645

: 00:29:57

I mean, there was a lot of dicks.

646

: 00:29:59

Christian's red dick from

having sex with a virgin girl.

647

: 00:30:03

Oh my god, it was horrible.

648

: 00:30:04

Red dick flopping around

as he's running around.

649

: 00:30:08

I don't know, I'm just a prude

I guess, but I'm not used

650

: 00:30:10

to seeing that in a movie.

651

: 00:30:11

It's Sweden, Chris.

652

: 00:30:13

It's Sweden.

653

: 00:30:14

That's how shit rolls over there, I guess.

654

: 00:30:15

God.

655

: 00:30:16

Anyway, so...

656

: 00:30:17

Hey, hey, real quick, real quick.

657

: 00:30:18

Can you either...

658

: 00:30:20

I don't know if you can scoot

your seat back a little or

659

: 00:30:22

turn down the mic a little.

660

: 00:30:24

It's turning red a lot.

661

: 00:30:26

That's what she said.

662

: 00:30:27

How about there?

663

: 00:30:28

Is that a little better?

664

: 00:30:29

I think so, but you're gonna get animated

again, and it's probably gonna get loud.

665

: 00:30:32

Well, I fucking take offense to that.

666

: 00:30:34

Anyway, do you believe this, people?

667

: 00:30:36

He says I get animated.

668

: 00:30:38

Anyway, so, I'll tell

you how animated I am.

669

: 00:30:42

I'm gonna pour another

glass of this Chianti.

670

: 00:30:46

Cause see, here's what's happening now.

671

: 00:30:48

My taste buds are being fried off, so I

no longer even really taste it anymore.

672

: 00:30:53

Let's get myself another

healthy pour there.

673

: 00:30:57

You know what, I might finish this bottle.

674

: 00:30:58

That's the beauty about wine bottles.

675

: 00:31:00

There's only about four

glasses in each one.

676

: 00:31:02

Well, two if you're drinking like you are.

677

: 00:31:06

Two and a half.

678

: 00:31:07

I am not offended by that.

679

: 00:31:09

These are, these are, hashtag true story.

680

: 00:31:11

Okay, so, so we're getting way,

we're fucking jumping around here.

681

: 00:31:15

We gotta go back to the beginning.

682

: 00:31:17

Theme.

683

: 00:31:17

We always talk about great writing, right?

684

: 00:31:18

What's the theme?

685

: 00:31:20

Okay, did you pick up what the theme was?

686

: 00:31:22

So, for me, so, I didn't flesh

this out in my own thought process,

687

: 00:31:29

but, I mean, uh, what's your name?

688

: 00:31:33

Danny.

689

: 00:31:33

Danny's the lead.

690

: 00:31:36

And she, she went through this

trauma and, but her relationship

691

: 00:31:41

with, not just with her boyfriend,

but with his friends is what I would

692

: 00:31:46

call sort of a dysfunctional one.

693

: 00:31:49

She's, she's like, it's like she's

needy in a way that's not healthy

694

: 00:31:57

with them because she, she submits

in a way that like she should stand

695

: 00:32:01

when she should stand up for herself.

696

: 00:32:03

In a couple of scenes in the beginning.

697

: 00:32:06

So, she, her, her journey, she needs

to learn to stand up for herself.

698

: 00:32:11

And needs to, you know, uh,

value, you know, her own person.

699

: 00:32:15

And, and, oh boy, does she.

700

: 00:32:18

At the very end.

701

: 00:32:21

Right, so, so, so here's what I got.

702

: 00:32:25

There's an actual line.

703

: 00:32:27

And we always talk about, you know,

five or six minutes into the film.

704

: 00:32:30

Literally six minutes into the movie.

705

: 00:32:33

Keep in mind the first

five minutes of this film.

706

: 00:32:35

Yeah hard to watch.

707

: 00:32:37

Yeah, very very hard to watch very

hard Well, you didn't even say what

708

: 00:32:40

it was, but she lost her parents

because of her sister bipolar sister

709

: 00:32:46

Murdered them and took her own life.

710

: 00:32:48

Yeah, so and and not just oh I found

out that my sister killed herself and my

711

: 00:32:54

parents they show how she did it basically

how she did it and it is Grotesque, okay?

712

: 00:33:02

It is, um, uh, And what's, what I

thought was ironic, and maybe this is,

713

: 00:33:09

uh, Maybe sort of a, uh, a director's

point for the rest of the film.

714

: 00:33:15

You mentioned how it's always daylight.

715

: 00:33:18

All this horror happens at daylight.

716

: 00:33:20

All these freaky, scary things are going

on in the middle of the fucking day.

717

: 00:33:24

In a place that seems so, uh,

beautiful and benign to danger and

718

: 00:33:31

just happiness and people are happy.

719

: 00:33:33

There's flowers in their

hair and all this shit.

720

: 00:33:35

The contrast there, the method of suicide

was, uh, carbon monoxide poisoning.

721

: 00:33:43

from a car.

722

: 00:33:45

And for anyone that knows, if you put

your car in the garage and turn it

723

: 00:33:50

on, you could die of carbon monoxide

poisoning because the gas can't get out.

724

: 00:33:55

And you generally will pass

out or die in your sleep.

725

: 00:34:00

As the father does.

726

: 00:34:01

It appears when they're putting

the bodies in a body bag that

727

: 00:34:03

the mother woke and was gasping.

728

: 00:34:07

Because she dies with her face frozen.

729

: 00:34:09

Yeah, I didn't even catch that.

730

: 00:34:10

In that, in that sort of like, you

know, with eyes open, mouth open.

731

: 00:34:15

But the father, as they're putting

the father in the body bag...

732

: 00:34:18

He's no expression.

733

: 00:34:19

He's asleep.

734

: 00:34:20

He died in his sleep.

735

: 00:34:21

Yeah, so you get the I guess what I'm

what I'm going for here Is the idea if

736

: 00:34:26

you were going to this is a horrific

obviously subject to talk about but if

737

: 00:34:30

you're going to kill yourself one might

assume dying by carbon monoxide poisoning

738

: 00:34:38

would be Sort of the EAs, I don't wanna

say easiest way, but, um, less likely for,

739

: 00:34:46

I don't know, destruction, pain, blood.

740

: 00:34:50

You know what I mean?

741

: 00:34:50

You're not blowing your

brains out with a gun.

742

: 00:34:52

Um, you know, some people that have

the fear of choking to death, you know,

743

: 00:34:57

for some, I guess if you want to kill

yourself, you're gonna go either way.

744

: 00:35:01

Just, it doesn't matter what you do,

um, but hanging yourself or jumping

745

: 00:35:05

off of a building or jumping off of a

bridge, This has an added element of

746

: 00:35:09

fear, I think, to somebody who's already

going through life with a lot of pain.

747

: 00:35:14

So somebody that might choose carbon

monoxide poisoning as a way of death,

748

: 00:35:17

you would think they're choosing that

as a sort of an easier way to drift, to

749

: 00:35:23

just go to sleep and you don't wake up.

750

: 00:35:27

Yet, as the rest of the movie is,

that contrast is there that this

751

: 00:35:33

carbon monoxide poisoning was violent.

752

: 00:35:37

It was the way she had the tubes going

from the car, she duct taped everything,

753

: 00:35:42

and the, and the closing shot of it is

the tube going into her mouth, the sister,

754

: 00:35:50

duct taped so that even if she started to

panic, she wouldn't pull it out, you know?

755

: 00:35:55

And, and if, I couldn't tell, with her

hands bound, I'd have to watch it again.

756

: 00:36:01

It looks like her hands are at her side,

but you can see vomit all over her shirt.

757

: 00:36:05

Right?

758

: 00:36:06

So it's like, God, what a way.

759

: 00:36:09

Yeah, it was so traumatic, I

kind of backed away from the

760

: 00:36:12

TV with my hand over my face.

761

: 00:36:14

Yeah, if you...

762

: 00:36:15

I actually purposefully

didn't study the scene.

763

: 00:36:18

If you thought at all...

764

: 00:36:21

That that would be, you know, again,

there's obviously get help if you've

765

: 00:36:27

ever had these kinds of thoughts,

but if you ever thought that carbon

766

: 00:36:30

monoxide poisoning was, well, if I

had to do it, that's the way to go.

767

: 00:36:35

You will think differently

after you watch this movie.

768

: 00:36:37

Because...

769

: 00:36:38

And it's traumatic for those who have

to see the aftermath as well, so.

770

: 00:36:43

My God, yes.

771

: 00:36:44

Exactly.

772

: 00:36:45

Like, it's just, what a horrific

opening five minutes to a movie.

773

: 00:36:50

This does have an interesting

connection to Silence of the

774

: 00:36:52

Lambs, though, I wanted to mention.

775

: 00:36:53

Hmm.

776

: 00:36:54

Okay, we always talk about...

777

: 00:36:56

Uh, script structure.

778

: 00:36:57

That Chianti's hittin ya.

779

: 00:37:01

That second, second glass, baby.

780

: 00:37:02

That second glass is kickin in!

781

: 00:37:05

Um, ha ha.

782

: 00:37:06

Script structure, that you usually open

with your main character, and you kind of

783

: 00:37:12

show Their life as it regularly is, right?

784

: 00:37:15

The usually the first 10 15 minutes

of a movie is what Blake Snyder used

785

: 00:37:20

to call at work, at home, at play.

786

: 00:37:22

You show them a day on the job.

787

: 00:37:25

You show them maybe at home.

788

: 00:37:26

What do they do when they're at home

when they get home from their a long day?

789

: 00:37:29

And then maybe show them doing something

recreational, you know, something at play.

790

: 00:37:32

Maybe they play racquetball or something.

791

: 00:37:34

The point is you're setting up

this person's regular life before

792

: 00:37:38

any shit hits the fan, which

would catapult them into act two.

793

: 00:37:43

Both Sons of the Lambs and

Midsommar sort of flip that.

794

: 00:37:47

They give you the craziness

right off the bat.

795

: 00:37:51

Clarice meets with Starling in the

first ten minutes of the movie.

796

: 00:37:55

Like...

797

: 00:37:57

We meet Clarice Starling, and boom, she's

told right off the bat by Jack Crawford,

798

: 00:38:04

Hey, you're gonna go meet the psychopath

in this cell today, go talk to him.

799

: 00:38:07

We haven't even met Clarice, we

don't know anything about her yet.

800

: 00:38:11

And yet, that's the bludgeoning we

get in the first ten minutes of the

801

: 00:38:14

movie is her meeting with Lecter.

802

: 00:38:15

We don't know anything about

him, other than he's a cannibal.

803

: 00:38:18

We don't know anything about

her, other than she's a trainee.

804

: 00:38:22

Same thing in Midsommar.

805

: 00:38:23

We haven't even met Danny.

806

: 00:38:25

We don't know what the

fuck's going on yet.

807

: 00:38:27

Right, right.

808

: 00:38:27

And we're met with this

traumatic opening five minutes.

809

: 00:38:32

Both films, before you get

to that second turning point,

810

: 00:38:35

then slow down a little bit.

811

: 00:38:38

They give you the trauma up front.

812

: 00:38:40

I wouldn't say it sounds like it's

just trauma, but meeting, uh, Lecter

813

: 00:38:43

for the first time is very unsettling.

814

: 00:38:46

And then they pull back a little bit.

815

: 00:38:48

Then we get to see Clarice.

816

: 00:38:50

We'll talk about this later.

817

: 00:38:51

But we, then we get to see

Clarice is sort of like at work,

818

: 00:38:54

at home, at play kind of thing.

819

: 00:38:55

And then Danny.

820

: 00:38:58

Uh, is, more of her, is, how

to, I'm just dealing with this

821

: 00:39:03

now, you know what I mean?

822

: 00:39:04

I'm, I'm, I'm sleeping all day, I'm

not going to class anymore, I, I've

823

: 00:39:10

just been suffering for, I, because the

movie takes place, it's winter time.

824

: 00:39:13

Yeah.

825

: 00:39:14

When the movie opens, and then

by the time the sweetest thing

826

: 00:39:16

is coming out, it's summer time.

827

: 00:39:17

Yeah.

828

: 00:39:18

So for a good five, six months,

she's just been sort of shitty.

829

: 00:39:21

Surviving, right?

830

: 00:39:22

Right, like, just, I, this

is a shitty way to live.

831

: 00:39:25

Did you like the picture,

the screenshot I sent?

832

: 00:39:27

Yes.

833

: 00:39:27

What was that ding?

834

: 00:39:28

Why is that not?

835

: 00:39:31

Let me silence my phone.

836

: 00:39:32

Sorry about that, everybody.

837

: 00:39:34

Silence your phone?

838

: 00:39:36

Silence of the phone.

839

: 00:39:38

Yeah, so I sent you a screenshot of

a scene, I paused it, where Danny's

840

: 00:39:44

laying in bed, just grieving.

841

: 00:39:47

And, uh, there's a big picture

on her wall above her bed.

842

: 00:39:51

And it's of, uh, looks like

a little girl kissing a bear.

843

: 00:39:54

Which is so genius.

844

: 00:39:57

And I sent you, I looked it up, I

did a Google search on that painting.

845

: 00:40:01

This film was loaded with foreshadowing.

846

: 00:40:03

Loaded with foreshadowing.

847

: 00:40:05

So, just, I mean, I don't know if we have

to jump ahead, but, um, There's a scene

848

: 00:40:11

late in the movie where there is a bear.

849

: 00:40:13

No, no, no, no, shut up!

850

: 00:40:15

We'll get to that.

851

: 00:40:16

Don't fucking ruin it now.

852

: 00:40:18

We'll ruin it later.

853

: 00:40:19

Now, so...

854

: 00:40:21

So, um...

855

: 00:40:22

But what was cool, that painting

was made by a Swedish painter.

856

: 00:40:26

Uh, a writer.

857

: 00:40:28

Did he write, did he write and, did

he write the book that he painted?

858

: 00:40:30

He wrote children's books

and did the illustrations.

859

: 00:40:33

Illustration, and he's from Sweden, so.

860

: 00:40:34

So, okay, so six minutes in after this

traumatic, uh, I, uh, thing, Um, and

861

: 00:40:41

you know me now, every time I watch

a movie I'm listening for, what?

862

: 00:40:45

Come on, somebody say something to the

main character that, to me, signifies.

863

: 00:40:48

Yeah, so what'd they say?

864

: 00:40:49

In the six minute mark.

865

: 00:40:51

So, in the six minute mark, she's on

the phone with one of her girlfriends,

866

: 00:40:55

and she's complaining about Christian.

867

: 00:40:57

And the fucking girl on the

phone says, He needs to be

868

: 00:41:02

there for you, or good riddance.

869

: 00:41:05

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

870

: 00:41:08

Yeah, that's foreshadowing

if I ever saw it.

871

: 00:41:10

So, so, uh, yeah, so I'm like,

oh, boom, there it fucking is.

872

: 00:41:16

It just hit me like a, and again,

I've seen this movie like ten times.

873

: 00:41:20

But now preparing for this podcast, I

was watching it again, and this thing

874

: 00:41:24

hit me in the face like a ton of bricks.

875

: 00:41:26

Just, my God, there it is.

876

: 00:41:28

If he's not there for me...

877

: 00:41:30

Good riddance.

878

: 00:41:30

Good riddance.

879

: 00:41:31

And the whole rest of the movie,

she, like you said, she, she needs

880

: 00:41:35

to stand up for herself, right?

881

: 00:41:37

That's all part of it.

882

: 00:41:38

That's all part of it.

883

: 00:41:39

Yeah, being able to assert

herself in this relationship.

884

: 00:41:42

That theme kept coming up because

when I first got there, like his

885

: 00:41:45

friends wanted to do some mushrooms.

886

: 00:41:48

Yeah, she didn't feel like she

was a little uneasy about it.

887

: 00:41:50

She wanted to settle in first,

but then because of the peer

888

: 00:41:53

pressure She's like, okay, you

know, and then she had a bad trip.

889

: 00:41:57

That's what I wrote down I wrote down

that the emotional tug of war for

890

: 00:42:00

her is when to assert myself, right?

891

: 00:42:03

There are some times she's like,

no I don't like this And there's

892

: 00:42:07

times where she's like, okay, fine.

893

: 00:42:09

You know what I mean?

894

: 00:42:10

She doesn't know when to assert

herself with Christian and his friends.

895

: 00:42:14

Sort of unsure of herself.

896

: 00:42:15

And yeah, right.

897

: 00:42:17

So.

898

: 00:42:18

I actually wrote down the battle

she endures is do I smother him or

899

: 00:42:21

not because she says on the phone

I feel like I'm smothering him.

900

: 00:42:24

That's what she tells the friend

Yeah, the friend's like he needs to

901

: 00:42:27

be there for you or good riddance She

goes, but I feel like I'm smothering

902

: 00:42:30

him, you know, and So, okay, so it's

clear to me and here's where we get

903

: 00:42:37

into tangible spiritual goals, right?

904

: 00:42:39

God, I fucking love this

part This is the part.

905

: 00:42:41

This is what I love most about

Midsommar So tangible spiritual goals.

906

: 00:42:45

What do we always say the tangible goal?

907

: 00:42:47

You, is what you want.

908

: 00:42:50

Right?

909

: 00:42:51

The spiritual goal is what

you don't know you needed.

910

: 00:42:55

It's what you need,

but you didn't know it.

911

: 00:42:57

Right.

912

: 00:42:57

Right?

913

: 00:42:58

And by going through your journey,

you achieve it at the end.

914

: 00:43:00

Now, the tangible goal is what you

think you want, and you usually

915

: 00:43:03

get that at the midpoint scene.

916

: 00:43:05

Yeah.

917

: 00:43:05

Right?

918

: 00:43:05

And halfway through.

919

: 00:43:06

So, let me, the midpoint scene is

when Pele is talking to Danny, right?

920

: 00:43:10

Yes!

921

: 00:43:11

Yeah.

922

: 00:43:11

Exactly at the midpoint scene.

923

: 00:43:13

Now, here's what's important about that.

924

: 00:43:15

Okay?

925

: 00:43:17

So, her tangible goal is to

feel support and comfort.

926

: 00:43:23

Right.

927

: 00:43:25

To be held.

928

: 00:43:26

And she got it there.

929

: 00:43:27

To be held.

930

: 00:43:27

Yep.

931

: 00:43:28

Right?

932

: 00:43:29

And that's exactly what he asked her.

933

: 00:43:30

Right?

934

: 00:43:31

Yeah.

935

: 00:43:31

Do you feel held by Christian?

936

: 00:43:34

Like, have you, and he's telling the

story about how his parents, by the

937

: 00:43:37

way he says his parents died in a fire.

938

: 00:43:40

I didn't even think about that!

939

: 00:43:43

Something to think about.

940

: 00:43:44

Something to think about.

941

: 00:43:44

Uh, he says his parents died in a fire.

942

: 00:43:47

But he's, he, and she doesn't want

to hear, she's like, she's crying,

943

: 00:43:50

she doesn't want to hear any of this.

944

: 00:43:51

But when he says, the difference between

you and I is I had a family here.

945

: 00:43:57

This family.

946

: 00:43:59

They held me when I needed it.

947

: 00:44:02

You've had nobody.

948

: 00:44:04

Right?

949

: 00:44:05

Like, and she knows what he's

saying, because she even says

950

: 00:44:07

Christian could walk in any moment.

951

: 00:44:10

He's like, I don't give a shit.

952

: 00:44:11

But yeah, and he even asked her,

so when you're with Christian,

953

: 00:44:14

do you feel like you're at home?

954

: 00:44:16

Right.

955

: 00:44:16

Do you feel, right, do you feel home?

956

: 00:44:18

Yeah, and he says something

else that's very interesting.

957

: 00:44:22

I wanted you to come more than

anything, more than anyone.

958

: 00:44:25

Right?

959

: 00:44:26

He's been planning this shit.

960

: 00:44:28

You know Pele's been planning this shit.

961

: 00:44:30

Now, he probably didn't

plan for her to come.

962

: 00:44:33

He probably just thought, I'm

gonna bring my American friends,

963

: 00:44:35

and maybe I'll sacrifice them,

because they're all assholes.

964

: 00:44:40

But, but, but when he met Dani, he

probably thought, this, this could

965

: 00:44:48

be, there could be something here.

966

: 00:44:50

I want her to come to this.

967

: 00:44:52

Because she needs this.

968

: 00:44:55

Right?

969

: 00:44:56

Um, so, okay, so we get into Act

2, the act, obviously Act 1 is the

970

: 00:45:00

turning point, which takes you from

Act 2 to Act 1 is her deciding to go.

971

: 00:45:05

And it's, uh, another conversation

with Pele, obviously, it's interesting

972

: 00:45:08

enough that he shows up at the turn,

first turning point, the midpoint

973

: 00:45:12

scene, and the third turning point.

974

: 00:45:15

So, um, actually, actually, It's not

really the third turn, uh, the second

975

: 00:45:21

turning point, which takes you into Act 3.

976

: 00:45:23

It's, uh, we'll, we'll get to that.

977

: 00:45:25

But he's at the first turning

point because he's telling her...

978

: 00:45:28

You know when they're sitting on the

couch and he's uh, oh, I just want to

979

: 00:45:31

tell you I was so sorry What happened

your family she freaks out right?

980

: 00:45:34

She's not ready to talk about it

And there's a great shot that r.

981

: 00:45:37

a.

982

: 00:45:37

esther does where she says I got to

use the bathroom And she goes to the

983

: 00:45:40

bathroom when she closes the door.

984

: 00:45:41

She's in the plane Yeah, she's in

the plane on her way to sweden.

985

: 00:45:43

I I I it's funny because I was

passively watching it I didn't catch

986

: 00:45:47

that the first time But I actually, I

did because I didn't, I didn't catch

987

: 00:45:52

the whole scene because I looked

down and I'm like, Oh, she's in the

988

: 00:45:55

plane now, but I didn't get the whole

impact of how that scene unfolded.

989

: 00:45:58

And it was really, it was a great shot.

990

: 00:46:00

Yeah.

991

: 00:46:01

Yeah.

992

: 00:46:01

It's a great edit cut.

993

: 00:46:02

Yes.

994

: 00:46:02

And, um, so she's on the plane now.

995

: 00:46:05

And so now you're in

the second act, right?

996

: 00:46:07

Because it's a mirror flip of act one.

997

: 00:46:09

It's, it's, uh, it's, I'm in a

stranger in a strange land, right?

998

: 00:46:13

It's now a new thing.

999

: 00:46:14

Um.

: 1000

00:46:16,395 --> 00:46:19,245

What also is interesting, Ari Aster

does, now again, I know we always talk

: 1001

00:46:19,255 --> 00:46:21,735

about screenwriting, but sometimes

we throw in nice little moments of

: 1002

00:46:21,735 --> 00:46:24,355

directing, when they're in the car.

: 1003

00:46:26,075 --> 00:46:28,175

As they're driving in

the car, what does R.

: 1004

00:46:28,175 --> 00:46:28,275

E.

: 1005

00:46:28,275 --> 00:46:28,445

S.

: 1006

00:46:28,505 --> 00:46:29,275

do with the camera?

: 1007

00:46:30,495 --> 00:46:34,385

It almost, it like goes up to show

the sign as they're passing it by.

: 1008

00:46:34,395 --> 00:46:34,635

Oh yeah, that was cool.

: 1009

00:46:35,295 --> 00:46:37,635

And then it goes completely upside down.

: 1010

00:46:38,115 --> 00:46:38,825

Yeah, that was freaking awesome.

: 1011

00:46:38,965 --> 00:46:43,225

To where the car is upside down

and the whole world is upside down.

: 1012

00:46:43,225 --> 00:46:45,725

So what did that say to

you when that happened?

: 1013

00:46:45,785 --> 00:46:50,285

Again, that's almost

exactly saying we are now...

: 1014

00:46:50,745 --> 00:46:55,535

In the upside down version of act

one, everything seemed to be, uh,

: 1015

00:46:55,535 --> 00:46:57,285

where our characters were in act one.

: 1016

00:46:57,285 --> 00:46:59,685

Now they're in something,

they have no idea.

: 1017

00:46:59,725 --> 00:47:02,795

Like this is what they're getting

into now is completely upside down.

: 1018

00:47:02,865 --> 00:47:03,165

Yeah.

: 1019

00:47:03,395 --> 00:47:04,305

That was brilliant.

: 1020

00:47:04,375 --> 00:47:06,055

And again, brilliant.

: 1021

00:47:06,055 --> 00:47:06,945

I mean, that's all.

: 1022

00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:08,640

In the directing, right?

: 1023

00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:08,940

Yes.

: 1024

00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:09,390

I mean...

: 1025

00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,940

Now, I want to, are you ready to fuckin

blow your nuts off again, right now?

: 1026

00:47:14,730 --> 00:47:19,060

When they first get to the commune,

and they meet Father Odd, Which,

: 1027

00:47:19,060 --> 00:47:21,100

by the way, great name, Father Odd!

: 1028

00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:22,030

Yeah, I know, right?

: 1029

00:47:22,350 --> 00:47:22,990

Father Odd!

: 1030

00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,730

He's fuckin odd!

: 1031

00:47:25,410 --> 00:47:31,850

He's, he says, hello, or hi, to every

single one of them, except Danny.

: 1032

00:47:32,990 --> 00:47:33,880

You know what he says?

: 1033

00:47:33,890 --> 00:47:34,340

to Danny?

: 1034

00:47:34,935 --> 00:47:35,535

What's he say?

: 1035

00:47:35,745 --> 00:47:36,895

You can hear, you can hear it.

: 1036

00:47:36,905 --> 00:47:38,635

If you watch it again, it's clear as day.

: 1037

00:47:39,475 --> 00:47:40,425

He says, welcome home.

: 1038

00:47:41,655 --> 00:47:42,955

Yeah, I do remember that now.

: 1039

00:47:42,955 --> 00:47:43,435

Yeah.

: 1040

00:47:43,435 --> 00:47:46,395

Yeah, he says welcome home

to Danny as he hugs her.

: 1041

00:47:46,755 --> 00:47:48,555

He hugs her, by the way.

: 1042

00:47:49,015 --> 00:47:51,295

He shakes the hands of

everybody else, says, oh, hello.

: 1043

00:47:51,315 --> 00:47:51,555

Hi.

: 1044

00:47:51,555 --> 00:47:51,825

Hi.

: 1045

00:47:51,845 --> 00:47:54,025

And when he gets to Danny, he

hugs her and says, welcome home.

: 1046

00:47:55,075 --> 00:47:56,755

How creepy is that fucking shit?

: 1047

00:47:57,765 --> 00:48:02,095

So, Okay, so now we're in Act 2.

: 1048

00:48:02,375 --> 00:48:04,765

A bunch of other crazy

shit's about to go down here.

: 1049

00:48:04,785 --> 00:48:10,055

So then, there is a moment,

a scene where there is a lot

: 1050

00:48:10,055 --> 00:48:11,595

of info being thrown at you.

: 1051

00:48:11,895 --> 00:48:16,805

Now keep in mind that the

redhead, uh, uh, uh, Maha?

: 1052

00:48:16,855 --> 00:48:17,425

Maha?

: 1053

00:48:17,585 --> 00:48:18,035

Mahi?

: 1054

00:48:18,125 --> 00:48:18,685

Maha.

: 1055

00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:20,240

The redhead.

: 1056

00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,640

The one that, with the pubes.

: 1057

00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:25,490

Okay, that, alright, that's

odd to describe somebody, but

: 1058

00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:26,730

you'll understand in a minute.

: 1059

00:48:26,740 --> 00:48:29,530

If you have not seen this movie,

you're like, what the hell?

: 1060

00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:33,180

The one with the pubes.

: 1061

00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:35,220

I guess it's ma ha.

: 1062

00:48:35,450 --> 00:48:35,690

Ma ha.

: 1063

00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:41,630

In Spanish, the J's a H sound, but I

don't know, they're Swedish, I don't know.

: 1064

00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,050

But they say it in the movie,

but I can't remember now.

: 1065

00:48:44,060 --> 00:48:47,060

I've seen this movie now, over

ten times, and I can't remember

: 1066

00:48:47,060 --> 00:48:48,430

if it's, I think it's Maja?

: 1067

00:48:49,110 --> 00:48:50,260

Maybe it's Maja.

: 1068

00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:50,449

Maja.

: 1069

00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:50,860

Maja.

: 1070

00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:51,610

It might be Maja.

: 1071

00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:52,120

Maja.

: 1072

00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:52,560

Maja.

: 1073

00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:52,930

Okay.

: 1074

00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:56,210

So, Maja's the redhead, and she's

already marked Christian at this point.

: 1075

00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:56,420

Right.

: 1076

00:48:56,670 --> 00:48:59,110

They've already been dancing around,

she's already kicked him in the side.

: 1077

00:48:59,635 --> 00:49:00,825

And Danny noticed.

: 1078

00:49:00,925 --> 00:49:01,705

Danny noticed.

: 1079

00:49:01,715 --> 00:49:02,795

Like, what the fuck?

: 1080

00:49:03,205 --> 00:49:07,465

Um, but then there's this really weird

segment where they're all walking and

: 1081

00:49:07,655 --> 00:49:09,795

a lot of information is poured out.

: 1082

00:49:10,145 --> 00:49:10,655

Okay?

: 1083

00:49:10,885 --> 00:49:12,855

So, let me, let me just go through it.

: 1084

00:49:13,625 --> 00:49:18,225

Ingmar says he met Connie and Simon

when he and Connie were dating.

: 1085

00:49:19,955 --> 00:49:21,535

And Connie corrects him.

: 1086

00:49:21,535 --> 00:49:25,285

She's like, We went on one date

and it was more like two friends.

: 1087

00:49:26,210 --> 00:49:29,570

And, you know, I met Simon shortly

after that, or whatever, and Ingmar

: 1088

00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,390

backtracks, he's like, Oh, right,

right, right, I'm sorry, I forgot.

: 1089

00:49:32,990 --> 00:49:37,390

So now you get the idea that Ingmar

has wanted Connie, And because she

: 1090

00:49:37,390 --> 00:49:41,670

got with Simon instead, That's why

he chose THEM to come to Midsommar,

: 1091

00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,310

Cause he's gonna sacrifice these

two fuckin assholes, right?

: 1092

00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:47,860

Like, he's bitter, he's bitter

that he didn't get Connie, right?

: 1093

00:49:48,545 --> 00:49:50,405

It's obvious he has infatuation.

: 1094

00:49:50,575 --> 00:49:53,085

I wrote in parenthesis, I write,

is this why he brought them?

: 1095

00:49:53,515 --> 00:49:59,075

So, um, and then they talk about

the yellow triangle hut, that they

: 1096

00:49:59,075 --> 00:50:00,835

can't go inside, it's ceremonial.

: 1097

00:50:01,155 --> 00:50:04,255

And then Christian doesn't know how long

he's been with Danny, when they're like,

: 1098

00:50:04,255 --> 00:50:05,375

how long have you two been together?

: 1099

00:50:05,375 --> 00:50:06,895

And he's like, uh, I don't know.

: 1100

00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:07,950

Two?

: 1101

00:50:07,950 --> 00:50:08,250

Two and a half?

: 1102

00:50:08,310 --> 00:50:08,800

Two years?

: 1103

00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,210

Two and a half?

: 1104

00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:11,340

And Danny's all, hello, three years?

: 1105

00:50:11,610 --> 00:50:13,530

And he's all, oh, sorry, you know?

: 1106

00:50:13,850 --> 00:50:14,330

Again, douchebag.

: 1107

00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,010

It's right, it's obvious he's a douche.

: 1108

00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:20,600

When the scene ends, they

show the bear in a cage.

: 1109

00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,360

Yes.

: 1110

00:50:21,370 --> 00:50:21,750

Right?

: 1111

00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:22,780

And they're like, what the?

: 1112

00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:23,900

Is that a bear?

: 1113

00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,200

Or they're like, actually someone said.

: 1114

00:50:26,685 --> 00:50:28,165

Are we not going to talk

about there's a bear here?

: 1115

00:50:28,165 --> 00:50:31,115

Right, nobody's going to talk about the

fact there's a bear in a cage over there.

: 1116

00:50:31,955 --> 00:50:34,735

It was a grizzly bear, it

wasn't just a little brown bear,

: 1117

00:50:34,735 --> 00:50:35,725

I mean a little black bear.

: 1118

00:50:35,955 --> 00:50:40,825

And as the camera pans away of those,

of everyone leaving, there's a drawing,

: 1119

00:50:40,825 --> 00:50:44,845

a picture that's like held up by tree

branches or held up like a banner almost.

: 1120

00:50:45,265 --> 00:50:48,755

It basically is dictating

what's about to happen next.

: 1121

00:50:49,215 --> 00:50:56,820

It's a drawing of a girl who's infatuated,

who trims her pubes, Puts it in food

: 1122

00:50:56,820 --> 00:51:02,230

for her man to eat, the man that she

wants, she puts her pubes in his food.

: 1123

00:51:02,830 --> 00:51:05,210

And then, and by the way,

there's a drawing of a twat.

: 1124

00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:08,520

Did we give a disclaimer about

how disturbing this movie is?

: 1125

00:51:08,620 --> 00:51:11,960

I think we did, but we should

continue, well, it's too late now.

: 1126

00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:15,560

There's literally a picture

drawing of scissors cutting

: 1127

00:51:15,590 --> 00:51:17,340

pubes off of a hairy twat.

: 1128

00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:20,900

And the hair is cooked into food.

: 1129

00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,670

But wait, it doesn't end there.

: 1130

00:51:23,010 --> 00:51:24,830

She takes her period blood.

: 1131

00:51:25,805 --> 00:51:27,215

And puts it in his drink.

: 1132

00:51:27,305 --> 00:51:29,605

Oh, yeah.

: 1133

00:51:29,695 --> 00:51:31,435

And all this is in the drawing.

: 1134

00:51:31,885 --> 00:51:35,905

And the end panel of the drawing is

that the man becomes infatuated, right?

: 1135

00:51:36,145 --> 00:51:41,775

So, ladies, if you're listening, if

you want a guy All you have to do...

: 1136

00:51:41,925 --> 00:51:42,505

Oh, come on.

: 1137

00:51:44,955 --> 00:51:46,825

Don't even finish the sentence, man.

: 1138

00:51:46,835 --> 00:51:48,045

Is trim off some pubes.

: 1139

00:51:49,505 --> 00:51:50,895

Somehow put it in his food.

: 1140

00:51:51,175 --> 00:51:55,975

You gotta mix a cocktail of

some kind of hallucinogen drug.

: 1141

00:51:56,735 --> 00:51:59,115

And then put some of your

period blood in his drink.

: 1142

00:51:59,115 --> 00:52:03,145

Now if you could pull those two things

off without him noticing, He's yours.

: 1143

00:52:03,485 --> 00:52:04,085

He is yours.

: 1144

00:52:04,355 --> 00:52:04,865

He's yours.

: 1145

00:52:04,875 --> 00:52:05,625

That's so nasty.

: 1146

00:52:05,995 --> 00:52:06,585

You own him.

: 1147

00:52:06,955 --> 00:52:07,545

So anyway...

: 1148

00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:09,520

So all that is dictated out.

: 1149

00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:11,630

After that, they talk about the seasons.

: 1150

00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:12,160

Yeah.

: 1151

00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:16,000

Uh, what happens after 72, and

then the next day is this ceremony.

: 1152

00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:16,670

Okay?

: 1153

00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:16,940

Yeah.

: 1154

00:52:17,380 --> 00:52:20,970

Um, b by the way, I h I wrote

down one little note about Mark

: 1155

00:52:20,970 --> 00:52:22,670

being the the comete, that comedy.

: 1156

00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:28,250

Um, right after they talk about the

seasons, and right before they say,

: 1157

00:52:28,250 --> 00:52:33,210

Okay, let's go to bed, cause tomorrow's

this big ceremony, Uh, Paley's sister

: 1158

00:52:33,210 --> 00:52:35,960

comes in, and gives Mark a look.

: 1159

00:52:37,065 --> 00:52:40,035

And then when she leaves, Mark's

all, Oh my god, you guys saw that?

: 1160

00:52:40,055 --> 00:52:40,725

You saw that, right?

: 1161

00:52:40,725 --> 00:52:41,195

You saw that?

: 1162

00:52:41,465 --> 00:52:41,765

The way she left?

: 1163

00:52:42,145 --> 00:52:44,875

And then as she leaves, he goes,

Man, I wanna give her a bath.

: 1164

00:52:46,005 --> 00:52:47,025

I know, that's so weird.

: 1165

00:52:47,295 --> 00:52:49,175

I wanna give her a bath!

: 1166

00:52:50,925 --> 00:52:51,255

Yeah.

: 1167

00:52:52,095 --> 00:52:57,225

So anyway, so we get to the,

uh, uh, horrific, uh, scene.

: 1168

00:52:57,645 --> 00:52:58,045

Right?

: 1169

00:52:59,085 --> 00:53:03,125

Something about that scene that

didn't, uh, I didn't understand.

: 1170

00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:09,170

They said that it's, uh, it's been 90

years since the last great feast and

: 1171

00:53:09,170 --> 00:53:11,180

it'll be 90 years till the next one.

: 1172

00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,130

So, do they do these sacrifices,

like, every year, just not

: 1173

00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:17,480

when there's a great feast?

: 1174

00:53:17,620 --> 00:53:20,800

So, here's, here's, here's

where, uh, I'm curious.

: 1175

00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:24,130

Because they made it seem like they

do these sacrifices every 90 years.

: 1176

00:53:24,430 --> 00:53:28,020

But, if Pele's parents

were in that fire...

: 1177

00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,240

Well, yeah.

: 1178

00:53:29,350 --> 00:53:31,470

Then the last time they

did this was 20 years ago.

: 1179

00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,060

Yeah.

: 1180

00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:32,450

Right?

: 1181

00:53:32,830 --> 00:53:33,890

Right, so younger.

: 1182

00:53:33,890 --> 00:53:37,500

Yeah, so I don't know it's it's

unclear how many times they murder

: 1183

00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:42,610

people but but What's interesting

is how they pick the people?

: 1184

00:53:43,395 --> 00:53:44,815

Without it coming back to them.

: 1185

00:53:44,815 --> 00:53:46,675

You'd think cops would be

all over that place by now.

: 1186

00:53:46,955 --> 00:53:48,535

I know, what I mean?

: 1187

00:53:49,305 --> 00:53:51,775

Why does everyone that comes

and visits your commune never

: 1188

00:53:51,775 --> 00:53:52,735

makes it out alive, right?

: 1189

00:53:52,745 --> 00:53:53,685

They never come home.

: 1190

00:53:54,135 --> 00:53:58,805

But, but it's almost like Pele

and, and Ingmar and anybody else

: 1191

00:53:58,815 --> 00:54:01,965

knows they have to select people

who have no family of their own.

: 1192

00:54:02,115 --> 00:54:03,955

No, no parents that are going

to come looking for them.

: 1193

00:54:03,955 --> 00:54:04,955

No one that's going to miss them.

: 1194

00:54:04,955 --> 00:54:06,755

Nobody's going to miss them.

: 1195

00:54:06,785 --> 00:54:07,635

Right, that's weird.

: 1196

00:54:07,635 --> 00:54:08,324

Like, this might be a...

: 1197

00:54:09,865 --> 00:54:10,785

That's the creepy part.

: 1198

00:54:11,035 --> 00:54:15,065

So anyway, so there's all this other

shit going on where Christian decides

: 1199

00:54:15,065 --> 00:54:17,075

he wants to do his thesis paper.

: 1200

00:54:17,115 --> 00:54:20,855

Now, after seeing the old people

die, Christian decides he wants to

: 1201

00:54:20,855 --> 00:54:23,725

do his thesis paper on Midsommar,

which is why Josh is there.

: 1202

00:54:23,915 --> 00:54:27,255

So of course they have this conflict

now, they get in this big argument,

: 1203

00:54:27,655 --> 00:54:29,265

it leads to the midpoint scene.

: 1204

00:54:29,265 --> 00:54:32,745

Now the midpoint scene that we already

talked about is Pele and Dani sitting

: 1205

00:54:32,745 --> 00:54:35,185

on the bed, and he, he hits her with it.

: 1206

00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:37,140

Do you feel held by Christian?

: 1207

00:54:37,150 --> 00:54:37,710

You know what I mean?

: 1208

00:54:37,710 --> 00:54:42,790

Like, and it's obvious the way she's

crying at the beginning of the scene and

: 1209

00:54:42,790 --> 00:54:45,280

the way she's not at the end of the scene.

: 1210

00:54:45,290 --> 00:54:45,540

Yeah.

: 1211

00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:50,800

Is very, uh, it's very telling

about how she feels about Pele,

: 1212

00:54:50,810 --> 00:54:54,070

or at least that she's getting

sucked into what he's selling.

: 1213

00:54:55,575 --> 00:54:58,255

Um, that what he's selling,

she's, she's buying.

: 1214

00:54:58,565 --> 00:55:02,505

So now we're in the second part

of Act 2, past the midpoint scene,

: 1215

00:55:02,505 --> 00:55:05,605

where you know what happens there

every time we talk about these films.

: 1216

00:55:05,955 --> 00:55:10,155

What happens, uh, midpoints being seen

is supposed to be your false victory.

: 1217

00:55:10,505 --> 00:55:11,325

I got what I wanted.

: 1218

00:55:11,325 --> 00:55:13,655

She finally felt that there was

somebody there that cared about her.

: 1219

00:55:13,855 --> 00:55:14,135

Yeah.

: 1220

00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:16,425

But you know the second half of the movie?

: 1221

00:55:16,580 --> 00:55:20,290

Everything goes to shit, everything

falls apart, and it doesn't,

: 1222

00:55:20,330 --> 00:55:21,730

this movie is no different.

: 1223

00:55:21,790 --> 00:55:22,940

Oh boy, does it.

: 1224

00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:29,160

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, um, so it

starts off, this whole second part

: 1225

00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,460

of the second act, the whole second

half of the film starts off with

: 1226

00:55:31,470 --> 00:55:33,810

Mark pissing on the ancestral tree.

: 1227

00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:40,650

Which couldn't have been a bigger mistake

on his part, he has no idea, but you know

: 1228

00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:42,980

to his point He's like, it's just a tree.

: 1229

00:55:43,390 --> 00:55:44,120

It's a dead tree.

: 1230

00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:45,310

I had to take a piss.

: 1231

00:55:45,530 --> 00:55:47,690

How could I know and he's right?

: 1232

00:55:47,710 --> 00:55:48,840

Nobody fucking told him.

: 1233

00:55:48,980 --> 00:55:52,990

There's no signs, but everybody loses

their shit including especially Ulf.

: 1234

00:55:53,260 --> 00:55:55,720

And they have signs everywhere

Wasn't there a sign?

: 1235

00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:56,980

I don't remember a sign.

: 1236

00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:57,890

I don't remember a sign.

: 1237

00:55:58,110 --> 00:56:00,600

If it was, it was in like

hieroglyphics or something that

: 1238

00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,110

nobody fucking understood but them.

: 1239

00:56:02,350 --> 00:56:02,660

Right.

: 1240

00:56:02,690 --> 00:56:07,280

But Ulf is a commune member,

a friend of Ingmar and Pele's,

: 1241

00:56:07,330 --> 00:56:08,480

and he's the one that loses it.

: 1242

00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:09,200

He freaks out.

: 1243

00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,850

He wants to beat the

shit out of Mark, right?

: 1244

00:56:11,390 --> 00:56:12,850

Um, and then...

: 1245

00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,710

Put your dick away!

: 1246

00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,210

Yes, put your dick away!

: 1247

00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:18,160

You're pissing on our ancestors!

: 1248

00:56:18,690 --> 00:56:19,170

So...

: 1249

00:56:19,915 --> 00:56:21,165

So, bad scene for Mark.

: 1250

00:56:21,375 --> 00:56:23,915

I think he called it his dirty dick away.

: 1251

00:56:24,305 --> 00:56:26,125

So, a bad scene for Mark.

: 1252

00:56:26,545 --> 00:56:30,725

Immediately after that, Connie

has found that Simon is missing.

: 1253

00:56:31,495 --> 00:56:34,265

Now, Simon was the one that

made a big fuss at the ceremony

: 1254

00:56:34,265 --> 00:56:35,085

of the old people dying.

: 1255

00:56:35,795 --> 00:56:37,335

Like, he called, he called them out.

: 1256

00:56:37,345 --> 00:56:38,885

He was like, you're all fucking sick.

: 1257

00:56:39,155 --> 00:56:40,275

You all, you know, this is insane.

: 1258

00:56:40,275 --> 00:56:41,235

You're all fucked.

: 1259

00:56:41,245 --> 00:56:42,635

He just said it over

and over and over again.

: 1260

00:56:42,635 --> 00:56:45,045

Yeah, and he's like, you're all fucked,

you're all fucked, this is fucked.

: 1261

00:56:45,065 --> 00:56:46,015

Why aren't the cops here?

: 1262

00:56:46,015 --> 00:56:46,924

This is fucked.

: 1263

00:56:46,925 --> 00:56:49,065

So, obviously, they're

like, this is a problem.

: 1264

00:56:49,485 --> 00:56:51,055

And this is how we deal with problems.

: 1265

00:56:51,465 --> 00:56:52,515

Simon goes missing.

: 1266

00:56:52,545 --> 00:56:55,655

And they tell her, they tell Connie,

Oh, he went back to the train

: 1267

00:56:55,655 --> 00:56:56,895

station, we'll be back to pick you up.

: 1268

00:56:57,215 --> 00:56:59,155

And she's like, he wouldn't

have left without me!

: 1269

00:56:59,845 --> 00:57:02,285

We came together like,

Yeah, he left without you.

: 1270

00:57:05,145 --> 00:57:06,065

Obviously they're alike.

: 1271

00:57:07,245 --> 00:57:11,200

But the funny thing is, when Danny

goes to tell Christian, Simon just left

: 1272

00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,550

without Connie, can you believe that?

: 1273

00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,560

Christian's all, wow, that's crazy.

: 1274

00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,180

So tell me again more about this commune.

: 1275

00:57:16,220 --> 00:57:19,570

Like, he's like, he's just

fucking, it's another example of

: 1276

00:57:19,570 --> 00:57:21,090

where he's not listening to her.

: 1277

00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:23,220

He doesn't care about her.

: 1278

00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:24,790

Right, he's not there for her.

: 1279

00:57:25,170 --> 00:57:25,820

Um.

: 1280

00:57:26,290 --> 00:57:27,940

Hold on, I gotta fix something.

: 1281

00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:29,130

Alright.

: 1282

00:57:31,740 --> 00:57:32,250

There we go.

: 1283

00:57:32,420 --> 00:57:35,230

You know, I'm actually

drinking this Chianti now.

: 1284

00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:36,350

I'm fucking drinking it.

: 1285

00:57:37,070 --> 00:57:38,520

I didn't think I was going to, but I am.

: 1286

00:57:42,060 --> 00:57:42,540

Oh yeah.

: 1287

00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:44,550

So.

: 1288

00:57:47,595 --> 00:57:51,345

So, right after Simon Goes Missing,

are we back on yet or not yet?

: 1289

00:57:51,575 --> 00:57:51,895

Hmm?

: 1290

00:57:53,955 --> 00:57:54,625

Go for it, man.

: 1291

00:57:54,865 --> 00:57:55,775

I'm, I'm listening.

: 1292

00:57:57,555 --> 00:57:58,825

As he sucks on his head.

: 1293

00:57:59,315 --> 00:57:59,945

Uh, alright.

: 1294

00:58:01,205 --> 00:58:04,145

That came out a little wrong, but he

was drinking the head of his beer.

: 1295

00:58:04,155 --> 00:58:05,325

You weren't wrong, but...

: 1296

00:58:05,455 --> 00:58:06,565

I wasn't wrong at all.

: 1297

00:58:06,775 --> 00:58:07,585

That just sounded wrong.

: 1298

00:58:07,625 --> 00:58:11,495

Okay, so right after

Simon Goes Missing, um...

: 1299

00:58:12,905 --> 00:58:14,175

They're making a meat tart.

: 1300

00:58:14,305 --> 00:58:15,985

They're making meat tarts, right?

: 1301

00:58:16,035 --> 00:58:18,625

And they invite Danny to come in

and help them make meat tarts.

: 1302

00:58:18,905 --> 00:58:22,935

It seems clear to me that the

meat tart is fucking Simon.

: 1303

00:58:23,305 --> 00:58:23,695

Oh.

: 1304

00:58:24,195 --> 00:58:25,505

So now they're making a meat tart.

: 1305

00:58:25,505 --> 00:58:26,715

I didn't even make that connection.

: 1306

00:58:27,215 --> 00:58:28,505

So they're making a meat tart, right?

: 1307

00:58:28,725 --> 00:58:31,705

The next scene, they're all sitting

around eating these meat tarts and

: 1308

00:58:31,705 --> 00:58:36,075

what does Christian pull out of his

teeth while eating his meat tart?

: 1309

00:58:36,465 --> 00:58:36,845

A pube.

: 1310

00:58:37,605 --> 00:58:39,325

So, everything is starting

to go to shit here.

: 1311

00:58:39,325 --> 00:58:42,325

And if you didn't notice that

it was a pube, who said it?

: 1312

00:58:42,385 --> 00:58:43,045

Is that a pube?

: 1313

00:58:43,655 --> 00:58:44,115

It's Mark.

: 1314

00:58:44,115 --> 00:58:45,055

Of course it's Mark.

: 1315

00:58:45,435 --> 00:58:46,255

It's always Mark, right?

: 1316

00:58:46,315 --> 00:58:47,455

It's always Mark.

: 1317

00:58:47,875 --> 00:58:49,735

Mark says, dude, is that a pube?

: 1318

00:58:50,635 --> 00:58:52,525

And that's the same scene where he says...

: 1319

00:58:53,015 --> 00:58:55,335

Uh, where Ulf is starin him

down, bad doggin him, and he's

: 1320

00:58:55,335 --> 00:58:58,135

like, Looks like somebody's still

pissed about the ancestral tree.

: 1321

00:58:58,665 --> 00:58:58,685

Yeah.

: 1322

00:58:58,715 --> 00:59:00,635

And then, and then he

says, Is he gonna kill me?

: 1323

00:59:00,645 --> 00:59:01,445

Is he gonna kill me?

: 1324

00:59:02,145 --> 00:59:02,485

Right.

: 1325

00:59:02,815 --> 00:59:06,135

So, and then, and then the girl that he's

hot for, that he wants to give a bath

: 1326

00:59:06,145 --> 00:59:07,725

to, Pele's sister, comes and gets him.

: 1327

00:59:07,865 --> 00:59:08,315

Mm hmm.

: 1328

00:59:08,595 --> 00:59:11,105

Hey, Mark, come here, I wanna show

you somethin He's all, Hell yeah!

: 1329

00:59:11,135 --> 00:59:12,085

She's gonna show me.

: 1330

00:59:13,165 --> 00:59:13,535

Yeah.

: 1331

00:59:14,015 --> 00:59:15,445

He has no idea what's coming next.

: 1332

00:59:15,465 --> 00:59:15,815

So...

: 1333

00:59:16,910 --> 00:59:19,570

Though they don't show

that scene, Mark dies.

: 1334

00:59:19,610 --> 00:59:20,370

Mark dies.

: 1335

00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,420

They kill Mark in that, in that scene.

: 1336

00:59:23,930 --> 00:59:27,120

Um, and then they cut to that night.

: 1337

00:59:27,130 --> 00:59:29,010

I wonder if that's a deleted scene.

: 1338

00:59:30,220 --> 00:59:33,010

I, no, I don't think so because

here's, the next scene after

: 1339

00:59:33,010 --> 00:59:34,100

that is the creepiest one.

: 1340

00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,200

So this is one scene that does take place

in the dark, in the dark, at night time.

: 1341

00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,290

Oh, right.

: 1342

00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,310

Josh has crept out of their sleeping place

to go take pictures of the ancestral book.

: 1343

00:59:44,310 --> 00:59:45,860

He's not supposed to go fucking near.

: 1344

00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:46,590

Right.

: 1345

00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,120

He's not supposed to

take pictures of this.

: 1346

00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,470

Cheating from the good place.

: 1347

00:59:50,540 --> 00:59:51,190

Yes.

: 1348

00:59:51,460 --> 00:59:57,600

And he goes in there and you

see the, uh, deformed child.

: 1349

00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,860

That's sleeping off to the side.

: 1350

01:00:00,210 --> 01:00:01,910

He walks right past him, by the way.

: 1351

01:00:02,260 --> 01:00:03,960

And he starts taking

pictures with his phone.

: 1352

01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,570

He sees a reflection in the mirror

of somebody standing in the doorway.

: 1353

01:00:07,930 --> 01:00:09,930

He turns around and he

believes that it's Mark.

: 1354

01:00:10,690 --> 01:00:12,180

And he says, Mark, what

are you doing here?

: 1355

01:00:12,180 --> 01:00:12,980

You're not supposed to be here.

: 1356

01:00:13,260 --> 01:00:15,510

Now, when the camera goes up...

: 1357

01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,410

And you see the reflection

in the, in the glass.

: 1358

01:00:18,910 --> 01:00:22,340

When he spins around to yell

at who he believes is Mark.

: 1359

01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:22,750

Right.

: 1360

01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:24,150

The camera follows.

: 1361

01:00:24,170 --> 01:00:25,020

It doesn't cut.

: 1362

01:00:25,130 --> 01:00:26,160

It follows.

: 1363

01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,040

When it follows, watch it again.

: 1364

01:00:28,170 --> 01:00:29,440

Pele's standing in the corner.

: 1365

01:00:30,550 --> 01:00:31,090

Wow.

: 1366

01:00:31,490 --> 01:00:32,720

Pele's standing in the corner.

: 1367

01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,690

It goes by so fast, though.

: 1368

01:00:34,780 --> 01:00:34,960

I missed that, yeah.

: 1369

01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,610

Even if you pause it, all you really

see is a figure wearing Pele's

: 1370

01:00:39,650 --> 01:00:41,630

clothes, and dark hair, white guy.

: 1371

01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:42,180

Wow.

: 1372

01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:43,110

You assume it's Pele.

: 1373

01:00:43,490 --> 01:00:44,800

The camera moves so fast.

: 1374

01:00:45,785 --> 01:00:48,765

So, he's arguing, Mark,

what are you doing here?

: 1375

01:00:48,765 --> 01:00:49,555

You're not supposed to be in here.

: 1376

01:00:49,555 --> 01:00:50,015

Blah, blah, blah.

: 1377

01:00:50,025 --> 01:00:51,705

He gets bludgeoned over the head.

: 1378

01:00:51,895 --> 01:00:52,125

Oh yeah.

: 1379

01:00:52,145 --> 01:00:53,515

Pele, Pele kills him.

: 1380

01:00:54,195 --> 01:00:54,595

Okay.

: 1381

01:00:55,975 --> 01:00:57,865

So, and then it's off.

: 1382

01:00:58,485 --> 01:01:02,935

Which, you don't know this by watching

the film, but I read it on Reddit sometime

: 1383

01:01:02,935 --> 01:01:04,305

later when I first saw this movie.

: 1384

01:01:04,925 --> 01:01:08,175

Ulf has killed Mark, or at least

the sister has killed Mark.

: 1385

01:01:08,485 --> 01:01:11,535

Ulf has decided to

dress up in Mark's skin.

: 1386

01:01:12,925 --> 01:01:18,715

So he's wearing Mark's face when he

leans over Josh and he's moaning.

: 1387

01:01:18,855 --> 01:01:20,615

Right, that's so disturbing.

: 1388

01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:22,680

Creepy as fuck.

: 1389

01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,590

Next day, everything seems

normal, except we can't find

: 1390

01:01:27,590 --> 01:01:29,770

Mark, and we can't find Josh.

: 1391

01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:34,450

And by the way, the scene opens

with Danny and Christian waking up.

: 1392

01:01:35,470 --> 01:01:36,220

Watch it again.

: 1393

01:01:36,500 --> 01:01:38,270

Bailey's in the background

changing his shirt.

: 1394

01:01:39,090 --> 01:01:39,600

Wow.

: 1395

01:01:39,870 --> 01:01:42,740

So, something that, I mean, one

of the, another reason, I mean,

: 1396

01:01:42,740 --> 01:01:46,420

it was just disturbing on its own

merit, but what, another reason it

: 1397

01:01:46,420 --> 01:01:48,990

was disturbing for me, so like...

: 1398

01:01:49,465 --> 01:01:52,595

I, I don't, I was listening to a podcast

and I don't know, I don't remember

: 1399

01:01:52,595 --> 01:01:56,545

where I heard it, but I guess when

you have a, a traumatic head injury,

: 1400

01:01:57,155 --> 01:02:02,325

one of the common, like, uh, responses

that your body does, basically you

: 1401

01:02:02,395 --> 01:02:08,595

involuntary, you make a snoring sound,

like a, a gruntal, like snoring sound.

: 1402

01:02:08,985 --> 01:02:14,925

And what kind of creeped me out

about that is, um, gosh, it was 20.

: 1403

01:02:15,925 --> 01:02:20,005

Twenty years, twenty three years

ago, um, my wife Jessie was in a car

: 1404

01:02:20,005 --> 01:02:24,995

accident, and Caitlin, one of our

kids, was in the car, along with three

: 1405

01:02:24,995 --> 01:02:29,775

of our kids, and Jessie was pregnant,

and no one got hurt, except mostly, I

: 1406

01:02:29,775 --> 01:02:34,615

mean, there was some minor injuries,

but Caitlin had a Fractured skull.

: 1407

01:02:35,045 --> 01:02:37,135

And when I, I was, I

saw the accident happen.

: 1408

01:02:37,165 --> 01:02:39,545

I didn't know she fractured

her skull in that accident.

: 1409

01:02:39,565 --> 01:02:40,675

Oh yes, it was scary as hell.

: 1410

01:02:40,745 --> 01:02:45,255

Uh, I got to the scene, Caitlin's

unconscious, and she was making

: 1411

01:02:45,255 --> 01:02:49,155

this I thought it was like a labored

breathing sound, but after I heard

: 1412

01:02:49,155 --> 01:02:52,825

this podcast I was like, oh wait,

it sounded like she was snoring.

: 1413

01:02:53,070 --> 01:02:57,100

Which was a really weird sound because

I never heard her make that sound before

: 1414

01:02:57,430 --> 01:03:02,770

and that reminded me of the accident I had

a flashback of when Caitlin was injured

: 1415

01:03:02,810 --> 01:03:07,980

Wow car accident 23 years ago and Josh

is laying there sort of like Shaking.

: 1416

01:03:08,090 --> 01:03:08,890

Yeah, you know what I mean?

: 1417

01:03:08,890 --> 01:03:12,870

Like his head head injury was way worse

than Caitlin's was because it killed

: 1418

01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:17,760

him You know, but right but but yeah,

it took me right back to this little

: 1419

01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,435

girl in a car seat With a head injury.

: 1420

01:03:20,465 --> 01:03:21,795

It was like, it messed me up.

: 1421

01:03:21,795 --> 01:03:22,605

I was like, God.

: 1422

01:03:23,035 --> 01:03:25,545

So, yeah, now I'm sharing

my trauma with the world.

: 1423

01:03:25,555 --> 01:03:25,575

Wow.

: 1424

01:03:27,425 --> 01:03:29,155

As if we didn't have

enough on our plate today.

: 1425

01:03:29,175 --> 01:03:32,565

Thankfully, Caitlin, you know,

after three days in the hospital...

: 1426

01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:33,610

She was fine.

: 1427

01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:34,900

. It was scary.

: 1428

01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:38,890

Well, I mean, you and I are , we

disagree on the definition of fine.

: 1429

01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:39,610

Just kidding.

: 1430

01:03:39,610 --> 01:03:42,660

Caitlyn, you know, I love

her . I love Caitlyn.

: 1431

01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:48,060

All right, so anyway, . So , uh,

we like to give our family members

: 1432

01:03:48,060 --> 01:03:49,560

little digs every now and again.

: 1433

01:03:50,010 --> 01:03:51,480

Uh, Caitlyn join the club.

: 1434

01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:51,960

Okay?

: 1435

01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,260

So, uh, and, and to say nothing to

the effect on how many digs we give

: 1436

01:03:55,260 --> 01:03:56,440

mom, whenever we do these podcast.

: 1437

01:03:58,015 --> 01:03:59,395

Well, she's our biggest fan, you know.

: 1438

01:03:59,435 --> 01:04:00,155

Yes, yes.

: 1439

01:04:00,235 --> 01:04:03,565

So then, okay, so the next morning,

Paley's Ching is changing his shirt.

: 1440

01:04:04,875 --> 01:04:09,665

Christian is summoned by Siv, who, he

has to go in and talk, Siv is like the

: 1441

01:04:09,665 --> 01:04:14,655

leading, like the, like the maternal, sort

of like the mother of this land, right?

: 1442

01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,790

And she's explaining to Christian

all about, he goes, I think she

: 1443

01:04:19,790 --> 01:04:22,500

fed me one of her pubes, and she

goes, yeah, that sounds about right.

: 1444

01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:25,270

I know, I start cracking up.

: 1445

01:04:25,850 --> 01:04:30,070

Oh, and by the way, about the drinking

the menstrual blood, in that scene

: 1446

01:04:30,070 --> 01:04:34,290

where he eats the pube, if you look at

everybody's glass, it's all light colored

: 1447

01:04:34,290 --> 01:04:36,060

like it's orange juice, his is darker.

: 1448

01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:37,760

His is dark.

: 1449

01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:38,850

Christian's is darker.

: 1450

01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:40,670

It's almost like a dark, dark juice.

: 1451

01:04:40,670 --> 01:04:42,340

I don't ever want to watch

this movie ever again.

: 1452

01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,840

No, you got, see, that's the beauty

of this one is you catch more shit.

: 1453

01:04:47,420 --> 01:04:50,850

Watching this movie is like the horror

film version of airplane where every

: 1454

01:04:50,850 --> 01:04:55,110

time you watch it, you catch something

else you never caught before, right?

: 1455

01:04:55,460 --> 01:04:56,630

That's what Midsommar is.

: 1456

01:04:57,060 --> 01:05:00,570

So anyway, so, so then they invite.

: 1457

01:05:00,765 --> 01:05:02,985

Danny to do the midsummer dance, right?

: 1458

01:05:02,985 --> 01:05:07,665

To do the, the, uh, the, the May Queen

midsummer dance where it's, uh, it's

: 1459

01:05:07,675 --> 01:05:13,175

about 30 girls and they dance around

this structure until you dance until

: 1460

01:05:13,175 --> 01:05:18,625

you fall over and anyone that's left

standing is crowned May Queen, right?

: 1461

01:05:19,555 --> 01:05:21,465

And they give you a little

bit of drugs before you start.

: 1462

01:05:21,495 --> 01:05:22,154

I mean, why not?

: 1463

01:05:22,575 --> 01:05:22,845

Right?

: 1464

01:05:22,985 --> 01:05:23,365

Right.

: 1465

01:05:23,435 --> 01:05:32,785

Um, so, some shit's going on about, um,

Christian is, is being seduced, uh, and,

: 1466

01:05:32,815 --> 01:05:35,785

and influenced to deflower the redhead.

: 1467

01:05:36,154 --> 01:05:36,505

Right?

: 1468

01:05:36,925 --> 01:05:37,495

Maja.

: 1469

01:05:38,355 --> 01:05:43,645

Um, it's almost like he was,

he was pinpointed from day one.

: 1470

01:05:43,665 --> 01:05:45,575

Like, the first day he got

there, he was targeted.

: 1471

01:05:45,675 --> 01:05:45,985

Right.

: 1472

01:05:46,355 --> 01:05:47,815

She put the thing under his bed.

: 1473

01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,900

Fed him her pubes, he drank

her menstrual water, a regu uh,

: 1474

01:05:52,900 --> 01:05:54,120

you know, a day in the office.

: 1475

01:05:54,250 --> 01:06:01,700

So, um, anyway, so while all this shit's

going on, Danny wins the May Queen.

: 1476

01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,860

She outlasts everybody.

: 1477

01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,760

Everybody falls but her.

: 1478

01:06:06,220 --> 01:06:07,400

The outsider.

: 1479

01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,500

And, I don't, I mean I'd have to watch

it again for like the twelfth time.

: 1480

01:06:13,740 --> 01:06:16,480

I don't think they threw that contest.

: 1481

01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,380

Like, I don't think they did

it on purpose for her to win.

: 1482

01:06:18,380 --> 01:06:22,210

Yeah, I think the last two to fall

ran into each other by accident.

: 1483

01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:22,970

Yeah, by accident.

: 1484

01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,520

I mean, they didn't make it

look like they, they threw it.

: 1485

01:06:26,020 --> 01:06:26,680

Right, right.

: 1486

01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:28,310

Like, she wins this shit.

: 1487

01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:29,240

She just wins it.

: 1488

01:06:29,290 --> 01:06:29,660

Right.

: 1489

01:06:30,135 --> 01:06:34,645

Um, and then, uh, there's this big thing

where they carry her around, and they

: 1490

01:06:34,645 --> 01:06:36,345

put her in a chariot, and all this shit.

: 1491

01:06:36,705 --> 01:06:38,305

And then, the all is lost.

: 1492

01:06:38,335 --> 01:06:41,805

Now, we all know what the all is

lost is, is where the main character

: 1493

01:06:41,815 --> 01:06:43,335

has hit complete rock bottom.

: 1494

01:06:43,435 --> 01:06:43,855

Right.

: 1495

01:06:44,315 --> 01:06:49,105

She already is very nervous about

leaving Christian alone, while they take

: 1496

01:06:49,105 --> 01:06:50,045

her off on this little parade thing.

: 1497

01:06:50,045 --> 01:06:52,235

Their relationship's

basically hanging by a thread.

: 1498

01:06:52,265 --> 01:06:55,395

It's by a thread, like a

very, very thin thread.

: 1499

01:06:55,885 --> 01:06:56,975

She gets back.

: 1500

01:06:57,570 --> 01:06:59,700

And she says, what's

going on in that room?

: 1501

01:06:59,860 --> 01:07:01,360

Or what's going on in that cabin?

: 1502

01:07:01,660 --> 01:07:04,470

And they're like, oh no, no,

no, no, you don't want to go

: 1503

01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:05,820

there, you know, whatever.

: 1504

01:07:06,330 --> 01:07:07,720

She's like, no, I gotta go.

: 1505

01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:09,950

So she goes and looks, and

of course, what does she see?

: 1506

01:07:10,180 --> 01:07:13,830

Which is probably the most unsettling

sex scene I've ever seen in a movie.

: 1507

01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,840

And that includes, and that

includes porn, by the way.

: 1508

01:07:18,550 --> 01:07:19,180

Christian!

: 1509

01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,890

You just got down butt naked!

: 1510

01:07:22,890 --> 01:07:24,680

Hold on, wait, before you describe it.

: 1511

01:07:24,910 --> 01:07:28,970

So Jessie was on her way home from a

thing last night, and she called, or,

: 1512

01:07:29,070 --> 01:07:33,080

yeah, she called me, and like, the

movie's playing in the background, you

: 1513

01:07:33,090 --> 01:07:35,529

know, I didn't even pause it, because

I kind of knew what was going on, and

: 1514

01:07:35,529 --> 01:07:39,540

I'm like, oh, hey, by the way, when

you walk in the door, you might...

: 1515

01:07:39,915 --> 01:07:43,745

What be walking in and to like in the

middle of like what look may look like an

: 1516

01:07:43,755 --> 01:07:52,095

orgy It's not but it's really weird So all

the like the elders the old mentor ladies

: 1517

01:07:52,195 --> 01:07:59,065

are standing in a half circle around the

fuck pit and Through there to sort of

: 1518

01:07:59,065 --> 01:08:04,230

cheer on And this is a good, this is a

good time to describe that at this moment

: 1519

01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:08,570

you get the realization that, um, It

happened a little bit when the old people

: 1520

01:08:08,570 --> 01:08:11,200

died, but this really made it clear.

: 1521

01:08:11,730 --> 01:08:14,930

They have a way of feeling

what they are feeling.

: 1522

01:08:14,930 --> 01:08:17,130

Yeah, they share the emotions.

: 1523

01:08:17,140 --> 01:08:18,245

They share the feelings!

: 1524

01:08:19,795 --> 01:08:23,825

So while this fucking is going on, all

the old ladies are, like, orgasming.

: 1525

01:08:24,685 --> 01:08:26,415

Like, they're, like, they're feeling it.

: 1526

01:08:26,734 --> 01:08:31,745

One lady even gets behind Christian and

starts pushing his bare ass, naked ass.

: 1527

01:08:32,774 --> 01:08:34,404

And he's looking like, what the fuck?

: 1528

01:08:34,404 --> 01:08:39,615

Like, I'm trying to have sex with

this obvious minor, I might add.

: 1529

01:08:39,944 --> 01:08:40,725

I'm having sex.

: 1530

01:08:40,975 --> 01:08:45,904

I had sex with this girl, which is

a crime, and yet there's an old lady

: 1531

01:08:45,904 --> 01:08:48,335

behind me pushing my ass to go deeper.

: 1532

01:08:48,345 --> 01:08:49,795

It was bad, it was so bad.

: 1533

01:08:49,795 --> 01:08:52,024

So, and here's the thing, he was drugged.

: 1534

01:08:52,024 --> 01:08:52,975

Yeah, he was drugged.

: 1535

01:08:52,984 --> 01:08:55,024

He was drugged, and...

: 1536

01:08:56,649 --> 01:09:00,890

So basically he was drugged and

they told him that, well, he

: 1537

01:09:00,890 --> 01:09:02,559

actually voluntarily drank it.

: 1538

01:09:03,050 --> 01:09:03,309

Yep.

: 1539

01:09:03,410 --> 01:09:04,710

She gave it to him.

: 1540

01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,580

She said it'll reduce your

inhibitions and whatever.

: 1541

01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:07,819

Yep.

: 1542

01:09:08,050 --> 01:09:09,300

And he drank it.

: 1543

01:09:09,470 --> 01:09:11,069

He wanted to fuck Maja.

: 1544

01:09:11,069 --> 01:09:12,080

That's all there is to it.

: 1545

01:09:12,190 --> 01:09:12,510

Right?

: 1546

01:09:12,819 --> 01:09:13,460

So you can't...

: 1547

01:09:13,684 --> 01:09:16,865

You can't get around it, but you

can seduce as much as you want.

: 1548

01:09:16,865 --> 01:09:17,645

It's so messed up.

: 1549

01:09:17,645 --> 01:09:17,734

Yeah.

: 1550

01:09:17,734 --> 01:09:22,444

He wanted to do this because again,

what did we say at the beginning?

: 1551

01:09:22,654 --> 01:09:28,725

Danny doesn't have sex, or at least

her affection level isn't that high.

: 1552

01:09:28,785 --> 01:09:31,694

He comes to this place with this

little red head, is literally

: 1553

01:09:31,694 --> 01:09:33,315

throwing herself at him.

: 1554

01:09:34,095 --> 01:09:34,305

Yeah.

: 1555

01:09:34,335 --> 01:09:35,625

And he's seduced by that.

: 1556

01:09:35,625 --> 01:09:38,595

He's seduced by the idea

of somebody that wants me.

: 1557

01:09:38,774 --> 01:09:39,165

Right?

: 1558

01:09:39,285 --> 01:09:39,434

Yeah.

: 1559

01:09:39,524 --> 01:09:43,395

So, I'm in a three year relationship,

three, four year relationship

: 1560

01:09:43,395 --> 01:09:46,395

with Danny who doesn't appear

at all like she wants me.

: 1561

01:09:46,745 --> 01:09:54,565

This redhead, I'm here five days, whatever

it is, and it's clear that she wants me.

: 1562

01:09:54,575 --> 01:09:57,485

He's drawn to that manhood thing.

: 1563

01:09:57,905 --> 01:10:00,745

So anyway, cut to the, uh, uh,

make it a long story short.

: 1564

01:10:01,934 --> 01:10:03,125

When he comes...

: 1565

01:10:04,065 --> 01:10:08,035

She starts lifting up her knees and she's

like, you know, I can feel the baby.

: 1566

01:10:08,035 --> 01:10:09,175

I can feel the baby.

: 1567

01:10:09,455 --> 01:10:11,345

And he's like weirded out now.

: 1568

01:10:11,415 --> 01:10:13,585

He's like, you know what?

: 1569

01:10:13,765 --> 01:10:16,605

Me having sex with an obvious minor

with a bunch of old people standing

: 1570

01:10:16,605 --> 01:10:18,295

around watching was bad enough.

: 1571

01:10:18,575 --> 01:10:22,065

But her saying, I can feel the

baby, that's where I draw the line.

: 1572

01:10:22,075 --> 01:10:26,330

So he runs out, he runs out in disgust,

butt naked with his red jacket.

: 1573

01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:27,380

Bloody dick.

: 1574

01:10:27,380 --> 01:10:28,260

Oh, God.

: 1575

01:10:28,490 --> 01:10:30,610

Running around, and then

he has nowhere to go.

: 1576

01:10:30,610 --> 01:10:34,230

Of course, he stumbles into a

different cabin that has Simon's

: 1577

01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:35,850

dead body hanging from a ceiling.

: 1578

01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,320

Well, that was it for the elders.

: 1579

01:10:38,330 --> 01:10:43,650

They blew dust in his face and paralyzed

him permanently from head to toe.

: 1580

01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:46,090

So, well, I would say from neck down.

: 1581

01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:49,165

Yeah, because his eyes could

move, and that was about it.

: 1582

01:10:49,955 --> 01:10:54,845

Yeah, okay, so talk so that is Danny's

all is lost and of course we always

: 1583

01:10:54,845 --> 01:10:59,255

talk about dark night of the soul which

is the moment between the all is lost

: 1584

01:10:59,725 --> 01:11:10,290

and the main character's decision to

propel into act three right so So, to

: 1585

01:11:10,290 --> 01:11:14,210

me, that Dark Night of the Soul, that

moment, Dani goes into the cabin with

: 1586

01:11:14,220 --> 01:11:19,290

all the sisters, and she's crying, and

they're all there with her, remember?

: 1587

01:11:19,420 --> 01:11:22,330

And they're all huddled over, and

she's tr they try to lay her down on

: 1588

01:11:22,330 --> 01:11:25,460

the bed, but she just wants to get

to the floor, and they're all around

: 1589

01:11:25,460 --> 01:11:27,545

her, and they're all Feeling her pain.

: 1590

01:11:27,545 --> 01:11:27,605

Yeah.

: 1591

01:11:27,725 --> 01:11:29,555

As she cries, they cry.

: 1592

01:11:29,735 --> 01:11:30,605

As she goes, ah.

: 1593

01:11:31,684 --> 01:11:36,065

They go, ah, yeah, they're, it

was, was creepy, but in sync.

: 1594

01:11:36,155 --> 01:11:36,395

Yeah.

: 1595

01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,355

It was creepy.

: 1596

01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,735

But at the same time, I could

understand like psychologically

: 1597

01:11:42,765 --> 01:11:49,625

how this, it would comfort a

person that doesn't have support.

: 1598

01:11:50,465 --> 01:11:51,035

You know what I mean?

: 1599

01:11:51,035 --> 01:11:51,125

Mm-hmm.

: 1600

01:11:51,485 --> 01:11:54,605

like her, like this is

the answer to her need.

: 1601

01:11:54,605 --> 01:11:54,695

Right.

: 1602

01:11:55,245 --> 01:11:57,285

Someone that is there with her.

: 1603

01:11:58,515 --> 01:12:02,295

Experiencing, you know, what she's

feeling with her, something she

: 1604

01:12:02,295 --> 01:12:03,795

wasn't getting from her boyfriend.

: 1605

01:12:04,455 --> 01:12:08,934

So, as weird as it was, I

mean, the commune is twisted,

: 1606

01:12:09,245 --> 01:12:10,955

but it was filling a need.

: 1607

01:12:10,965 --> 01:12:17,405

Yeah, so, so her jump to Act 3, of course,

she's put in charge to decide who...

: 1608

01:12:17,434 --> 01:12:19,115

She's made, like, queen or something.

: 1609

01:12:19,305 --> 01:12:22,695

Yeah, she's the mate queen,

and she gets to decide what's

: 1610

01:12:22,695 --> 01:12:23,655

going to happen to Christian.

: 1611

01:12:24,485 --> 01:12:25,115

Um...

: 1612

01:12:25,985 --> 01:12:28,145

Well, she could have, she

could have chose someone else.

: 1613

01:12:28,245 --> 01:12:29,805

Yeah, surprise to nobody.

: 1614

01:12:30,945 --> 01:12:31,605

Fuck you, Christian.

: 1615

01:12:32,175 --> 01:12:32,405

Right?

: 1616

01:12:32,745 --> 01:12:34,125

They stuff him in a bear.

: 1617

01:12:34,934 --> 01:12:36,035

We're in Act 3 now.

: 1618

01:12:36,075 --> 01:12:39,415

Well, first they show him,

like, disemboweling the bear.

: 1619

01:12:39,695 --> 01:12:43,555

Yeah, they disembowel the bear.

: 1620

01:12:43,555 --> 01:12:44,955

Yeah, they shove his ass up in there.

: 1621

01:12:45,205 --> 01:12:48,045

And then they talk about

the nine sacrifices.

: 1622

01:12:48,045 --> 01:12:50,835

So, the two old people that already died.

: 1623

01:12:51,275 --> 01:12:55,045

And that they cremated, they created

these weird little paper mache

: 1624

01:12:55,265 --> 01:12:58,885

with twigs and shit to signify

those two, so those two are there.

: 1625

01:12:59,645 --> 01:13:02,785

That confused me, were their heads real?

: 1626

01:13:04,065 --> 01:13:05,055

I don't think so, not of those two.

: 1627

01:13:05,065 --> 01:13:09,545

But the bodies, but the bodies weren't,

cause it looked, they looked real,

: 1628

01:13:09,555 --> 01:13:13,065

like a real dead head on the fake body.

: 1629

01:13:13,075 --> 01:13:15,785

Right, but their, but their faces

were mangled in real life, like

: 1630

01:13:15,785 --> 01:13:16,934

they were completely caved in.

: 1631

01:13:17,275 --> 01:13:17,565

I don't know.

: 1632

01:13:17,565 --> 01:13:19,855

Oh, yeah, it couldn't

have been the real heads.

: 1633

01:13:20,015 --> 01:13:21,975

Well, no, I'm talking

about their friends though.

: 1634

01:13:22,115 --> 01:13:23,175

Like, oh, no, no.

: 1635

01:13:23,245 --> 01:13:23,515

Oh, yeah.

: 1636

01:13:23,515 --> 01:13:23,905

Yeah.

: 1637

01:13:23,905 --> 01:13:23,925

Yeah.

: 1638

01:13:23,925 --> 01:13:24,385

Yeah.

: 1639

01:13:24,395 --> 01:13:25,225

So we'll get to that.

: 1640

01:13:25,255 --> 01:13:28,315

So the first two of the nine are

the two old people that died.

: 1641

01:13:28,325 --> 01:13:31,425

Yeah, but they're made up in

like sort of like models with

: 1642

01:13:31,465 --> 01:13:33,095

twigs as hands and everything.

: 1643

01:13:33,105 --> 01:13:34,405

Yeah, they stick them in there.

: 1644

01:13:34,805 --> 01:13:40,635

Uh, the next two is of course, Connie

and Uh, Simon, and yes, like, they

: 1645

01:13:40,635 --> 01:13:45,385

have these, they're like flowers for

eyes and shit, and it's like they used

: 1646

01:13:45,385 --> 01:13:49,895

their face and their, their skin to

create these dummies, so to speak.

: 1647

01:13:50,605 --> 01:13:53,315

Um, they do the same thing with

Mark, they put him in like, almost

: 1648

01:13:53,315 --> 01:13:56,665

like a, like a clown outfit,

because he's the clown, right?

: 1649

01:13:56,755 --> 01:13:57,025

Yeah.

: 1650

01:13:57,385 --> 01:14:01,575

And, and all, obviously taking his face

off, because he's wearing his face.

: 1651

01:14:02,335 --> 01:14:07,815

Josh was there, and Josh and Mark, so

that's two, four, so that's six, and then

: 1652

01:14:07,825 --> 01:14:11,985

seven, eight is the, uh, the volunteers.

: 1653

01:14:12,055 --> 01:14:14,295

Ingmar and Ulf.

: 1654

01:14:14,695 --> 01:14:15,065

Yeah.

: 1655

01:14:15,145 --> 01:14:17,515

Volunteer to be two of the ones that go.

: 1656

01:14:19,125 --> 01:14:22,725

So, and this is another way of maybe

why they get away with it all the time.

: 1657

01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:25,880

Because the people that are luring

them are the ones that sacrifice

: 1658

01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:30,640

themselves, with the exception of

Billy, uh, Ingmar sacrifices himself.

: 1659

01:14:30,860 --> 01:14:33,400

So if any cops ever came and said,

hey, have you ever seen this guy,

: 1660

01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,100

they'd be like, nope, go ahead,

look around, check, you might

: 1661

01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,440

find his ashes, but nothing else!

: 1662

01:14:38,750 --> 01:14:43,890

So anyway, Ingmar and Ulf represent

themselves, and then she has to decide.

: 1663

01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:49,240

They draw like a fucking

lottery, like it's the, uh, uh...

: 1664

01:14:50,835 --> 01:14:54,895

They draw a lottery ball, again

with a bunch of hieroglyphic symbols

: 1665

01:14:54,895 --> 01:14:56,925

on it, I don't know, they pick it

up and they're like, Ah, Frank!

: 1666

01:14:56,934 --> 01:14:57,725

We picked Frank!

: 1667

01:14:57,735 --> 01:14:58,315

You know, whatever.

: 1668

01:14:58,505 --> 01:15:01,655

So a guy comes walking up, and

he's the guy, and she has to decide

: 1669

01:15:01,655 --> 01:15:05,445

between this guy and Christian,

who's paralyzed at this point.

: 1670

01:15:06,375 --> 01:15:07,805

Of course she picked Christian, right?

: 1671

01:15:08,125 --> 01:15:12,985

So, Christian goes, gets

stuffed in the bear, and then,

: 1672

01:15:13,055 --> 01:15:14,925

uh, and they place him inside.

: 1673

01:15:15,260 --> 01:15:15,660

The thing.

: 1674

01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:17,510

Hit that.

: 1675

01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:17,850

Excuse me.

: 1676

01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:19,910

This is Chianti, man.

: 1677

01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:20,440

I'm telling you.

: 1678

01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:25,030

The final scene is they set this

fucking thing on fire as one big

: 1679

01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:30,630

sacrifice, and everybody starts feeling

their pain when Ulf catches fire.

: 1680

01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:31,870

Yeah, he starts screaming.

: 1681

01:15:32,085 --> 01:15:34,684

He starts screaming, and they're,

and all the people are like going

: 1682

01:15:34,684 --> 01:15:37,505

like this outside, like they can

feel Yeah, they start rubbing

: 1683

01:15:37,505 --> 01:15:39,115

their skin and start screaming.

: 1684

01:15:39,475 --> 01:15:42,175

Right, like they're, like they're

trying to get the fire off of them.

: 1685

01:15:42,455 --> 01:15:46,105

So they could almost feel what the,

what Ingmar and Ulf are feeling.

: 1686

01:15:46,695 --> 01:15:48,555

And so does Dani.

: 1687

01:15:48,605 --> 01:15:48,905

Yeah.

: 1688

01:15:49,065 --> 01:15:51,815

She's writhing in pain, screaming.

: 1689

01:15:52,305 --> 01:15:58,285

And then the final You could tell her,

her pain, though, was, was more of a,

: 1690

01:15:58,825 --> 01:16:03,095

you know, she was grieving that her, she

just lit her boyfriend on fire, you know?

: 1691

01:16:03,225 --> 01:16:04,115

I don't know!

: 1692

01:16:04,755 --> 01:16:07,135

Well, I think it was part of it.

: 1693

01:16:07,235 --> 01:16:09,065

I think she had become like them.

: 1694

01:16:09,255 --> 01:16:10,465

Yeah, I mean, so...

: 1695

01:16:10,565 --> 01:16:12,175

And she was feeling it.

: 1696

01:16:12,175 --> 01:16:13,575

Finish your point, because

the final scene is...

: 1697

01:16:13,745 --> 01:16:15,755

Well, wait, wait, wait, actually,

before we get to the final scene,

: 1698

01:16:16,195 --> 01:16:17,135

one thing I forgot to mention.

: 1699

01:16:17,295 --> 01:16:21,085

When she wins the May Queen, and

everyone's celebrating, did you

: 1700

01:16:21,085 --> 01:16:22,915

notice Pelé comes up and kisses her?

: 1701

01:16:23,380 --> 01:16:24,470

No, I didn't notice it.

: 1702

01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,370

He comes up, takes her both

hands on her face and kisses her.

: 1703

01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:29,260

Wow.

: 1704

01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,010

And then just keeps going

along with the crowd.

: 1705

01:16:31,050 --> 01:16:31,530

Yeah.

: 1706

01:16:32,380 --> 01:16:32,780

I miss it.

: 1707

01:16:32,780 --> 01:16:33,360

You know what I mean?

: 1708

01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:33,740

Yeah.

: 1709

01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:39,760

So it's almost like she is going to, he

and her are destined to be a thing, right?

: 1710

01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:40,559

To be together.

: 1711

01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:41,880

She's the May Queen.

: 1712

01:16:42,250 --> 01:16:46,260

He brought her so he gets to

be the courtship, the guy.

: 1713

01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:48,380

Final scene.

: 1714

01:16:49,315 --> 01:16:49,675

Final scene.

: 1715

01:16:51,315 --> 01:16:54,795

She achieves her spiritual goal.

: 1716

01:16:55,045 --> 01:16:56,065

Yeah, she's in.

: 1717

01:16:57,005 --> 01:17:04,295

Now, so, no, no, remember I said tangible

goal was, uh, to, to just be held, right?

: 1718

01:17:04,495 --> 01:17:04,805

Yeah.

: 1719

01:17:04,865 --> 01:17:08,434

Well, to me, the spiritual

goal, wait, where is it?

: 1720

01:17:08,475 --> 01:17:09,175

I wrote this down.

: 1721

01:17:10,465 --> 01:17:14,325

Her spiritual goal is to be...

: 1722

01:17:14,655 --> 01:17:16,905

Uh, important, right?

: 1723

01:17:16,905 --> 01:17:20,025

To be an important member of the

family, to be a leader in the

: 1724

01:17:20,025 --> 01:17:22,115

family, to be somebody of importance.

: 1725

01:17:22,355 --> 01:17:23,835

Her whole life, nobody's cared about her.

: 1726

01:17:24,225 --> 01:17:26,965

Her sister doesn't care about her,

her parents don't care about her,

: 1727

01:17:26,965 --> 01:17:28,295

her boyfriend didn't care about her.

: 1728

01:17:29,265 --> 01:17:31,845

Every time, uh uh, and they,

and they allude to it with

: 1729

01:17:31,845 --> 01:17:33,045

little lines of dialogue.

: 1730

01:17:33,045 --> 01:17:34,905

Like, oh, your sister

always does this to you.

: 1731

01:17:35,175 --> 01:17:35,595

You know what I mean?

: 1732

01:17:36,615 --> 01:17:37,125

, you know what I mean?

: 1733

01:17:37,125 --> 01:17:40,005

Like just say they say shit

like that in the whole movie.

: 1734

01:17:40,010 --> 01:17:43,835

You get the idea that she's not only never

been held, she's never been important.

: 1735

01:17:43,865 --> 01:17:45,635

She's never been seen as important.

: 1736

01:17:45,725 --> 01:17:46,225

Right, right.

: 1737

01:17:46,565 --> 01:17:47,465

Final shot.

: 1738

01:17:47,705 --> 01:17:49,475

She's the fucking May queen.

: 1739

01:17:49,684 --> 01:17:49,925

Yep.

: 1740

01:17:50,525 --> 01:17:54,635

And this whole ceremony of sacrificing

these people is in her honor.

: 1741

01:17:54,815 --> 01:17:55,025

Yep.

: 1742

01:17:55,795 --> 01:17:57,085

And the camera fades out.

: 1743

01:17:57,809 --> 01:17:59,400

With her smiling.

: 1744

01:17:59,450 --> 01:18:00,510

Smiling, yeah.

: 1745

01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:01,210

Yep.

: 1746

01:18:01,309 --> 01:18:07,540

And when I was in the theater, I, I,

I don't know if I said it out loud.

: 1747

01:18:07,730 --> 01:18:08,520

I might have.

: 1748

01:18:09,020 --> 01:18:11,275

But in my head I'm all Stop it.

: 1749

01:18:11,275 --> 01:18:11,320

Close it now.

: 1750

01:18:11,330 --> 01:18:12,050

Fade to black.

: 1751

01:18:12,050 --> 01:18:12,780

Fade to black.

: 1752

01:18:12,780 --> 01:18:13,230

Fade to black.

: 1753

01:18:13,230 --> 01:18:13,650

Fade to black.

: 1754

01:18:13,650 --> 01:18:14,010

Fade to black.

: 1755

01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:14,760

Fade to black.

: 1756

01:18:15,150 --> 01:18:16,100

Don't give me another scene.

: 1757

01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,710

Don't try to explain

anything with another scene.

: 1758

01:18:18,990 --> 01:18:19,720

Just go to black.

: 1759

01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,730

And I want to see, all I want to see

right now is directed by Ari Aster.

: 1760

01:18:22,900 --> 01:18:23,720

That's all I want to see.

: 1761

01:18:23,830 --> 01:18:24,250

Give it to me.

: 1762

01:18:24,250 --> 01:18:24,610

Give it to me.

: 1763

01:18:24,610 --> 01:18:24,950

Give it to me.

: 1764

01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:25,100

Give it.

: 1765

01:18:25,290 --> 01:18:25,910

And they did.

: 1766

01:18:25,930 --> 01:18:26,910

And I was like, YES!

: 1767

01:18:27,230 --> 01:18:29,215

And I looked at mom and I

said I fucking loved it.

: 1768

01:18:29,225 --> 01:18:30,285

Mom's like, what?

: 1769

01:18:30,805 --> 01:18:32,065

Mom's horrified, right?

: 1770

01:18:34,545 --> 01:18:38,875

Poor mom has no fucking clue

what I just went through as a

: 1771

01:18:39,195 --> 01:18:41,005

film lover and a screenwriter.

: 1772

01:18:41,325 --> 01:18:42,535

Mom's terrified.

: 1773

01:18:42,975 --> 01:18:43,735

She's horrified.

: 1774

01:18:43,785 --> 01:18:44,675

Unbelievable.

: 1775

01:18:44,705 --> 01:18:45,115

So...

: 1776

01:18:46,445 --> 01:18:51,465

Here's the thing, um, I think we

need to make this a two parter.

: 1777

01:18:52,065 --> 01:18:56,085

We can continue recording, but

I think we should release this

: 1778

01:18:56,095 --> 01:18:57,815

in two separate recordings.

: 1779

01:18:57,815 --> 01:19:00,495

Because this is, we're

at 80 minutes right now.

: 1780

01:19:01,175 --> 01:19:02,275

On the first movie.

: 1781

01:19:05,405 --> 01:19:06,285

It's worth it!

: 1782

01:19:09,415 --> 01:19:10,385

So, um...

: 1783

01:19:10,405 --> 01:19:11,605

We're normally done like...

: 1784

01:19:16,934 --> 01:19:17,665

Let me see here.

: 1785

01:19:17,684 --> 01:19:21,395

If there's any other notes I

wanted to add, I don't think so.

: 1786

01:19:21,455 --> 01:19:22,555

I think I got everything.

: 1787

01:19:22,855 --> 01:19:23,725

I'm with you though, man.

: 1788

01:19:23,745 --> 01:19:26,805

I don't know how Florence

Pugh did not get nominated.

: 1789

01:19:26,845 --> 01:19:29,385

Oh, she not, she was so great.

: 1790

01:19:29,395 --> 01:19:30,715

She was so great.

: 1791

01:19:30,985 --> 01:19:35,175

I mean, as you went through that

again, I'm recounting how many times

: 1792

01:19:35,295 --> 01:19:40,870

she had to like, Not just cry, but

full body cry, you know what I mean?

: 1793

01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:46,270

Like, full emotion in, I mean, because

that's, I don't know, it's like...

: 1794

01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:49,550

Her pain is, feels so real, you know?

: 1795

01:19:49,550 --> 01:19:50,790

Like, good God.

: 1796

01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:55,670

And like, when she was crying, um,

after her parents were killed, and

: 1797

01:19:55,670 --> 01:20:00,840

her sister died, like, you could

hear, like, her voice was hoarse.

: 1798

01:20:01,270 --> 01:20:06,809

Yeah, evident and like signifying

that she had been wailing for a long

: 1799

01:20:06,860 --> 01:20:11,620

time Because you could hear like it

sounded like she had laryngitis because

: 1800

01:20:11,620 --> 01:20:18,200

usually It's actually it's actually

more than that when before it happens

: 1801

01:20:21,215 --> 01:20:22,865

She's talking to Christian on the phone.

: 1802

01:20:23,075 --> 01:20:25,684

And she's saying, I got this

cryptic message from my sister.

: 1803

01:20:25,825 --> 01:20:28,205

And that's when he's on the phone going,

well, she always does this to you.

: 1804

01:20:28,205 --> 01:20:29,745

You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

: 1805

01:20:29,745 --> 01:20:30,815

She leans over.

: 1806

01:20:30,825 --> 01:20:34,465

Her, almost her whole face

takes up the frame of the film.

: 1807

01:20:35,065 --> 01:20:39,355

And you see, Bags under her eyes

like you like like it's obvious.

: 1808

01:20:39,355 --> 01:20:40,205

She's been crying.

: 1809

01:20:40,205 --> 01:20:41,495

So leading up to this.

: 1810

01:20:41,505 --> 01:20:43,835

She had already been

going through hell Right.

: 1811

01:20:43,835 --> 01:20:45,945

So you I mean, yes, you

could say well that's makeup.

: 1812

01:20:46,005 --> 01:20:51,075

Okay, but it's still acting sure because

She can't keep herself from tearing up.

: 1813

01:20:51,095 --> 01:20:52,315

Just talking to christian.

: 1814

01:20:52,445 --> 01:20:55,950

Well anyone that knows someone

or has a family member even

: 1815

01:20:55,950 --> 01:20:58,290

more with a head that's bipolar.

: 1816

01:20:59,250 --> 01:21:03,250

Um, this is, I mean, again, they're

probably not going to want to watch

: 1817

01:21:03,250 --> 01:21:05,010

this movie because it's so triggering.

: 1818

01:21:05,020 --> 01:21:09,280

It's so, because they did such a

good job just in that brief, it

: 1819

01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,040

was only like five minutes, right?

: 1820

01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:15,790

The beginning of the movie where they,

they unfold that, that whole scenario.

: 1821

01:21:16,365 --> 01:21:19,934

But if someone has, I bet you

people walked out of the theater.

: 1822

01:21:19,975 --> 01:21:23,775

I bet you people, people who, who

lived with people with bipolar

: 1823

01:21:24,385 --> 01:21:27,755

probably said, Nope, this one's

not for me because it's too real.

: 1824

01:21:28,385 --> 01:21:29,065

You know what I mean?

: 1825

01:21:29,415 --> 01:21:30,645

It was, it was nuts.

: 1826

01:21:31,730 --> 01:21:32,290

Yeah.

: 1827

01:21:32,650 --> 01:21:35,220

Okay, so let's, assuming that

we're going to cut this into

: 1828

01:21:35,220 --> 01:21:37,790

two parts, let's start part two.

: 1829

01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:38,450

Okay.

: 1830

01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:39,630

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

: 1831

01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,309

Before we do that, any closing

thoughts on Midsommar other than it got

: 1832

01:21:44,309 --> 01:21:47,210

completely robbed at the: 2019

: 1833

01:21:47,460 --> 01:21:52,520

Yeah, honestly, I'm, I'm a little bitter

that it got, it got totally snubbed.

: 1834

01:21:52,630 --> 01:21:53,910

Now what did I fucking tell you?

: 1835

01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:55,230

I told you a long time ago.

: 1836

01:21:55,410 --> 01:22:00,530

I said that every year a movie will come

out that I love more than any other movie.

: 1837

01:22:01,105 --> 01:22:03,475

And sometimes it wins Best Picture,

and when it doesn't, it's great.

: 1838

01:22:04,434 --> 01:22:08,455

But, there, I remember I always tell

the famous story about, in: 1995

: 1839

01:22:08,455 --> 01:22:13,365

was such a big fan of Braveheart,

that in early 96 at the Oscars, uh,

: 1840

01:22:13,375 --> 01:22:17,405

Braveheart wins Best Picture, and

MOM CALLED ME TO CONGRATULATE ME!

: 1841

01:22:18,025 --> 01:22:20,665

I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOVIE!

: 1842

01:22:22,945 --> 01:22:26,485

I was in, I was in college at

the time, and all my college

: 1843

01:22:26,485 --> 01:22:29,385

roommates are like, Did your mom

just call you to congratulate you?

: 1844

01:22:29,385 --> 01:22:33,015

Like, like you have no, I had fucking

nothing to do with Braveheart.

: 1845

01:22:33,485 --> 01:22:37,434

But, it was a movie that I championed,

like the whole year I was like, Guys,

: 1846

01:22:37,485 --> 01:22:38,615

this is the best movie of the year.

: 1847

01:22:38,665 --> 01:22:39,645

This is the best movie of the year.

: 1848

01:22:39,665 --> 01:22:40,855

And I kept telling everyone.

: 1849

01:22:41,125 --> 01:22:43,205

And they're like, no, Sense and

Sensibility is going to win.

: 1850

01:22:43,215 --> 01:22:44,815

No, Apollo 13 is going to win.

: 1851

01:22:45,115 --> 01:22:48,955

And it was like, when it came to

Oscar night, the odds were on either

: 1852

01:22:48,955 --> 01:22:50,775

Apollo 13 or Sense and Sensibility.

: 1853

01:22:51,075 --> 01:22:51,565

That was it.

: 1854

01:22:51,825 --> 01:22:55,365

Now, everyone knew that Mel was going

to win Best Director, because it was

: 1855

01:22:55,365 --> 01:22:56,715

the best directed movie of the year.

: 1856

01:22:56,885 --> 01:22:58,575

But everyone's like, but Best

Picture is going to go to

: 1857

01:22:58,575 --> 01:22:59,955

either Sense and Sensibility.

: 1858

01:23:00,210 --> 01:23:00,970

Or Apollo 13.

: 1859

01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:08,530

Oh, wait, Braveheart, what my mom called,

like, I had just won the fucking Oscar.

: 1860

01:23:10,559 --> 01:23:10,930

Anyway.

: 1861

01:23:10,930 --> 01:23:13,540

She's like, great acceptance speech.

: 1862

01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:14,020

Right.

: 1863

01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:14,410

Right.

: 1864

01:23:14,450 --> 01:23:15,620

I should have given my speech.

: 1865

01:23:15,860 --> 01:23:16,870

So that's a point.

: 1866

01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,630

That's a point I want to make about how,

like, every year there's a movie that

: 1867

01:23:19,660 --> 01:23:21,290

I love and I tell everybody about it.

: 1868

01:23:21,610 --> 01:23:23,160

And sometimes it wins best picture.

: 1869

01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,220

Sometimes it doesn't.

: 1870

01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:25,050

It's a letdown.

: 1871

01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:30,330

: 2019

was Midsommar, and it's not even close.

: 1872

01:23:30,410 --> 01:23:30,660

Yeah.

: 1873

01:23:30,710 --> 01:23:31,540

And it wasn't.

: 1874

01:23:31,675 --> 01:23:37,095

Even nominated and I just, it

just, it, it, it, it hurts.

: 1875

01:23:39,235 --> 01:23:44,495

Ari Aster, you got robbed, my

friend, uh, robbed, robbed.

: 1876

01:23:44,515 --> 01:23:46,934

He could have gotten best

director, best screenplay.

: 1877

01:23:47,315 --> 01:23:48,775

Uh, it should have been

nominated for best.

: 1878

01:23:48,775 --> 01:23:51,355

But I'm not saying it's going to

win these, but it would have at

: 1879

01:23:51,355 --> 01:23:52,915

least should have got nominated.

: 1880

01:23:53,940 --> 01:23:56,559

Okay, that's where we landed

the plane on this one.

: 1881

01:23:56,809 --> 01:23:58,540

It is kind of an abrupt cut.

: 1882

01:23:58,590 --> 01:24:01,760

We just kind of rambled on a bit

about how long it was going and

: 1883

01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,309

how we needed bathroom breaks.

: 1884

01:24:04,059 --> 01:24:05,800

So, I spared you that.

: 1885

01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:10,440

Um, but yeah, the six degrees of

separation that we normally do

: 1886

01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:15,170

at the end of each episode will

be at the end of our Silence 2.

: 1887

01:24:16,315 --> 01:24:19,055

And again, if you're enjoying

this show, please share it with

: 1888

01:24:19,055 --> 01:24:22,295

somebody and let us know, and let

us know where you're listening.

: 1889

01:24:22,305 --> 01:24:23,245

We'd like to hear from you.

: 1890

01:24:23,595 --> 01:24:26,835

So until next time, cheers

and go watch some movies.