Episode 4

About Time, Somewhere: 'About Time' (2013) and 'Somewhere in Time' (1980) Dissected

In-depth Film Analysis:

'About Time' (2013) and 'Somewhere in Time' (1980) Dissected

Join hosts Chris Wiegand and Jerome Wiegand as they dissect and analyze the romantic time-travel films 'Somewhere in Time' and 'About Time'. This discussion dives deep into the films' structures, characters, and plot holes, with perspectives drawn from their personal lives. Themes of love, manipulation, and the ethics of time travel are explored in detail. The hosts also critique the character development and plot, discussing the films' cultural impact, box office performance, and enduring legacies. As an added bonus, enjoy a fun 'Six Degrees' film trivia segment.

Discretion is advised due to explicit language and alcohol consumption.

00:01 Introduction and Super Bowl Predictions

00:36 Valentine's Day Time Travel Special Announcement

00:54 Debate on Movie Preferences

01:26 Introduction to the Valentine's Day Special Movies

01:40 Discussion on Movie Casts

02:42 Beer Talk and Tasting

06:01 Super Bowl and Time Travel Discussion

08:12 Introduction to 'Somewhere in Time'

09:06 Detailed Analysis of 'Somewhere in Time'

29:03 Discussion on Plot Holes and Trivia

33:55 Christopher Reeve's Hilarious Movie Trivia

34:16 The Impact of Actors' Strike on Box Office Performance

34:36 Closing the Book on 'Somewhere in Time'

35:34 Discovering 'About Time' and Initial Impressions

36:10 Plot Holes and Continuity Errors in 'About Time'

36:49 The Art of Choosing the Perfect Beer

38:26 Diving into the Details of 'About Time'

40:49 The Intricacies of Time Travel in 'About Time'

43:03 The Emotional Impact of 'About Time'

54:41 The Controversial Ending of 'About Time'

01:08:24 Reviewing the Characters and Soundtrack

01:08:55 Unveiling the Actors' Background

01:09:20 Analyzing the Script Structure

01:10:42 Discussing the Emotional Impact

01:11:08 Debating the Movie's Message

01:12:45 Exploring the Soundtrack

01:13:46 Reflecting on the Movie's Impact

01:14:15 Comparing with Other Movies

01:16:01 Discussing the Movie's Ending

01:18:00 Reflecting on the Movie's Characters

01:27:54 Six Degrees of Separation Game

01:35:33 Wrapping Up the DiscussionThe Wiegand brothers, Jerome & Chris, love movies, and they are fascinated by human nature and the art of great storytelling. Have you ever wondered how great stories connect? Listen to the Silver Screen Happy Hour - a podcast for movie lovers!

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Transcript
Jerome:

By the time you guys hear this in February, the Super

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Bowl will have already been over.

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So, we might be champs and

we don't even know it yet.

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Yeah, we, yes!

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At the time you're listening,

we might already be drunk.

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And we don't even know that yet.

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Talk about time travel!

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Talk about time travel!

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You guys that are listening

right now to our voices already

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know whether or not we've won!

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And we don't even know.

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That's crazy!

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Chris: Well, you can tell that our

beloved lions were still in the playoffs

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when we recorded this, and we had no

idea how far they were going to go.

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I really think you're going to enjoy

this Valentine's Day time travel

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special, so let's jump right in.

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Welcome back to the

Silver Screen Happy Hour.

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I'm Chris Wiegand.

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Jerome: I'm Jerome Wiegand.

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Chris: Let's do this.

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We've been, we had to put this off for

a week and we've been lobbing insults

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at each other back and forth, kind

of Passive aggressive because I liked

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one movie and apparently my brother

liked the other one for some reason.

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Jerome: This, this is gonna

get fuckin hot in here.

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It's going to get, this might

be our first real argument.

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Because it's not that you're wrong.

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I, we'll go over it.

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We'll go over, okay.

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Okay.

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Tell, tell.

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I actually, to be fair, I like the

script structure of both films.

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Okay.

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That's the, that's the

funny part, but, okay.

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Go ahead.

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Chris: Well, first of all, let's

tell the audience what we're

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gonna be talking about today.

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Jerome: All right.

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So today we're doing our

Valentine's Day special.

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Romance all around, but we're gonna

splash him, we're gonna pepper in a

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little time travel with each of them.

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We're gonna do 1980s Somewhere in Time

with Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour.

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And 2013's About Time with Domhnall

Gleeson and Rachel McAdams.

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What's his name?

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Domhnall.

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Say it again.

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It's Domhnall.

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It really is Domhnall.

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I know it's spelled all fucked up, but

he even said in an interview, he said

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it's pronounced like tonal, but with a D.

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And he's like, he's like, Domhnall,

and he's like, the M is in

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there just to confuse Americans.

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He literally said that.

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That's awesome.

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So, there you go.

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So it's Domhnall Gleeson, Bill Nye is

in it as well, a couple other people.

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I like Bill Nye.

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We'll get to both, I love Bill Nye.

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And we'll get to both

the casts of each film.

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But anyway, so both deal with I mean,

we're gonna go over the log lines and

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everything, but both deal with love

and the relationship to time travel.

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Yeah.

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So, I'm, I'm fired up.

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I actually love the script structures of

both, but I had major problems with one of

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them, and I cannot wait to dive into it.

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So which one do you want to do first?

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Chris: Well, what I want to

do first is open my beer.

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So I'm really excited about what I found.

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So I'm going to talk first.

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So I went to a total wine and spirits,

I think is the name of the store.

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It's like Sam's club of liquor

and beer and everything.

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I think I read every can of

beer in that place looking for

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something to do with time travel.

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I couldn't find any.

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I've seen, I've seen time travel.

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Cans, and I can't remember the brewery,

but you know, craft beers, there's,

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there's so many of them, but I found the

ultimate beer that has a nod to time.

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The name of this beer is called

Softly Spoken Magic Spells.

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Ooooooh.

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Now, you probably don't know

what that's in reference to,

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do you?

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Jerome: Softly Spoken Magic Spells?

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Yeah.

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No, I don't

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think so.

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Chris: it's the last four lyrics

in Pink Floyd's song, Time.

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Oh.

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Softly spoken magic spells, and the way

that time travel works in both of these

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movies, it's kind of magical, right?

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It's, it's kind of, they

didn't build a time machine.

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Jerome: We're definitely going

to talk about the fucking magic

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of it all, because magic comes

with some massive rule breaking.

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Yeah, it does.

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But we'll get

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to that.

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Chris: So anyways, that's, and

this, this is Imperial IPA this is

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going to knock me into next week.

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Eight point six percent.

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Beautiful.

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Um, I do have another beer that I'll

mention if I do crack that one, but

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I'm going to drink this one first.

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Softly Spoken Magic Spells.

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Jerome: Oh!

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That was like a double bump.

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It cracked and then it cracked again.

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Oh my god.

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Chris: A little hazy.

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Not a, not a clear uh,

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Jerome: it's kind of a hazy IPA.

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Look at

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that.

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That's fucking beautiful.

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Chris: Very, very thick head.

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Jerome: Oh, God.

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Chris: Sounds like we're

making love to our beers.

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Jerome: I was gonna say something

very crass, but you know what?

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Oh yeah, it's good.

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This is the Valentine's special,

so let's try to keep it romantic.

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And not sexual.

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Alright, is it my turn?

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Chris: I forgot to mention, it's

made by Single Cut Beersmiths.

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That's the name of the brewery.

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Well done, fellas.

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Jerome: Is it my turn?

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Yeah, go for it.

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Okay, so, I actually got this bottle

for Christmas from my neighbor.

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Tyson, little shout out to you, bud.

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And it's called Horse Soldier, so I

was saving it for the show without it

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having any sort of connection, except

for, in Somewhere in Time, there's

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horse and carriages, because on Mackinac

Island, you cannot have a motor vehicle.

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Chris: Yeah, tell that to the people

that made the movie, though, because

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when he arrives, he's in a car.

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Jerome: Yeah, of course, but I think

in the movie, it's not supposed

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to be Mackinac Island, right?

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Right, it's some kind of fictional place.

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It's just a grand hotel.

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Okay, let me, I, I,

alright, so here we go.

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Alright, so horse soldier because

there's horse encourages in somewhere

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in time and this is toast can up

your can or your glass up there.

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Yeah, this is for our

Valentine's Day romantic special.

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How sweet

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Chris: Cheers.

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Cheers.

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Go Lions!

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Jerome: Wait, wait, when's the Super Bowl?

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So for those that can't see me,

I'm wearing my Detroit Lions hat

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because last night, the time of

this recording, not last night, but

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this past weekend, the Lions won

heir first playoff game since:

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Very exciting.

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Wasn't it 91?

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Well, the 91 season, but

it was January of 92.

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So so that's what, what

is that, 30 30 plus years.

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30 some years, good god.

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But the Lions are in business

because, again, at the time of this

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recording, all we know now is that

we're hosting another playoff game,

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this time against the Tampa Bay Bucs.

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Chris: So, And we already beat them once

this year, no, I don't want to jinx them,

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but man, I'm excited about this game.

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Jerome: Yes, and we beat them on the

road, and this time it's at home.

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So, we are favored by six and a half.

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So, at the time, by the time you

guys hear this in February, the Super

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Bowl will have already been over.

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Chris: So, we might be champs

and we don't even know it yet.

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Jerome: Yes, at the time you're

listening, we might already be drunk,

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and we don't even know that yet.

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Talk about time travel!

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Yes!

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Talk about time travel!

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You guys that are listening right

now to our voices already know!

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Whether or not we won!

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And we don't even know!

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That's crazy!

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Chris: I wish one of you could

come back and tell us right now,

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cause we're, well, only if we win.

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Cause if we don't, I

want to know about it.

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Jerome: Yes, but do it the

Domhnalld Gleeson way, where

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you just have to go in a closet.

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Yeah, right.

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Because Christopher Reeves way

It's fucking taxing man, and it's

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going to take a lot out of you.

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So if you're going to come back in time,

either use the DeLorean or use a closet.

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Chris: Okay.

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If we find out like they almost

won, but like fumbled or something,

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or had it called off by the refs

we'll, we'll wind up like Christopher

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Reeve did at the end of that movie.

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Jerome: Yeah.

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Or, or, oh yeah, exactly.

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Or we could do something else

from Christopher Reeve movie

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in Superman and just try to fly

around and around and around.

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So the earth goes back in time.

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Alright, so which one do

you want to start with?

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I'll leave it up to you,

cause I can go either way.

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Chris: Here's the thing, I'm gonna,

I'm gonna piss off a lot of Somewhere

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in Time fans, Cause there are some

freakish, including mom, Freakish fans

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when it comes to Somewhere in Time.

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Jerome: They have a fan club,

there's like a cult following.

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Let's go with Somewhere in Time.

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Okay, let's go, jump into it.

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Chronologically, it was first.

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It came out in 1980.

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Adapted screenplay by Richard

Matheson from his own novel

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which was called Bid Time Return.

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I think the producers realized

what a terrible title that was.

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So when he, they asked him to adapt

his own novel into a movie, they

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changed the name to Somewhere in Time.

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And coincidentally future editions of

the book that were re released started

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changing that name to Somewhere in Time.

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Because the movie was so popular?

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The movie was popular and

the title bid time return.

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It just sort of bid.

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It's fair to will.

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Chris: Hang on.

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Pause real quick.

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Yes.

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Can you pull that microphone closer?

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Like to the center of my

screen to closer to your face.

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Yeah.

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Yeah like that.

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It will sound better

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Jerome: But then you won't

see my glorious face.

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Chris: It's all right, it actually

improves the experience for me to

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Jerome: fuck head.

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All right.

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Here we go Matheson had a long

career in early television.

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He also wrote films such as the early

Spielberg thriller, Duel, for those

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that are fans of early Spielberg work.

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Later on in his life, he just kind

of stuck to big novels, but they

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were made into huge films that he

wasn't the writer of, but of course

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he was the writer of the novel.

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What Dreams May Come, Stir of

Echoes, and I Am Legend are

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all films based on his books.

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Directed by Jean Luc Swarek.

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Previously known for

directing Jaws 2 in 78.

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Afterwards, he did Supergirl

in 84 and a lot of television.

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He ended up doing a lot of, and I'm

talking double digit episodes, for

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each of The Practice, Jag, Without a

Trace, Smallville, and Grey's Anatomy.

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Wow.

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So, big time TV director

later in his, in his career.

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So, Somewhere in Time was

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It finished its box office

run with a Pitiful 9.

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7 million domestic.

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However, it is worth noting it

only cost 5 million to make.

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So it actually made a profit.

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Now that is roughly 36

million in today's dollars.

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Yeah.

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Of money that it made.

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But it was only good for 38th place

ong the top grossing films of:

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We already know.

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I'm gonna do a little trivia.

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What was number one that year?

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This should be an easy one.

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1980?

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1980, the number one top

grossing movie of the year.

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E.

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T.

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No, it hadn't, AT hadn't come out yet.

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That was 82.

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82.

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I'll give you a hint.

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I can't even give you a hint.

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It's too fucking easy.

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Don't say, don't say Raiders

of the Lost Ark, that was 81.

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Alright, I'll tell you,

I will give you a hint.

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It's only one of the

greatest sequels of all time.

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Chris: Empire didn't come out in 80.

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Yes!

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And did it come out in 80?

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Jerome: Star Wars Episode 5, The

Empire Strikes Back, was the number

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Chris: should have known this

because we went over this before.

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Jerome: Yes, you was every three years.

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It was 77, 1980, and then

Return of the Jedi was 83.

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Empire Strikes Back was the

number one movie of the year.

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Alright, log me.

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Chris: Alright, somewhere in time,

a Chicago playwright uses self

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hypnosis to travel back in time

and meet the actress whose vintage

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portrait hangs in a grand hotel.

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Jerome: Now, In a grand hotel.

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In a grand hotel, right, they

hesitate saying the grand hotel.

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But, so here's, here's

something right off the bat.

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Clearly it says to go

back in time and meet.

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That's his goal.

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That's his tangible goal.

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He just wants to meet her.

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He's so captivated by this

photo, by this picture.

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He wants to meet her and that's important

because that is a tangible goal.

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And when you get the tangible goal, Chris?

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Chris: In the first few minutes, right?

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Jerome: No!

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Jesus, my God, man.

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Chris: I'm usually

drunk when we talk, man.

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Jerome: Sometimes I, sometimes I

think, it's just, you're not even

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listening to me, you're like,

you're like playing Monopoly Go on

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your phone while I do these shows.

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The tangible goal you get at the

midpoint scene, that's always

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your false victory, right?

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And then your spiritual goal

is what you get at the end.

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Chris: The tangible goal Isn't it

usually achieved at the midpoint scene?

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Yeah, Yeah, I misunderstood the question.

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Jerome: Oh, you mean, you thought

I meant like like the thief?

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Chris: How do we, how do we

find out the, yeah, the theme?

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Jerome: Oh, okay, okay, well, okay.

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So yeah, no, no, no.

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So it's very important that

the logline says it like that.

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It doesn't say anything

about falling in love.

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Right.

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It just says, go back in time and

meet the actress whose vintage

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portrait hangs in the Grand Hotel.

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Okay.

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We have the beats.

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Opening image.

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They're at an afterparty of the play

that Richard Collier has just written

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and put on, and he's surrounded

by people who pretend to love him.

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Theme stated, at the 2 minute, 30

second mark, an old woman approaches

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Richard and says, Come back to me.

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Now this is a little early for a theme.

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But they, we kind of get things rolling

pretty quickly in this, in this film.

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This is gonna be the running theme

throughout the rest of the film.

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Will he or won't he be

able to come back to her?

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Now, I, I'm gonna take

you to the second act.

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And we're going to do what I

lovingly call the emotional shifts.

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The positive and negative.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Something that leads you.

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Remember we talked about this

with the Thelma and Louise show.

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Episode, right?

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The every other scene.

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She's either Alpha Thelma

and then she's Baby Thelma.

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Right, right.

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Here, it's almost every other scene.

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He's going towards his spiritual goal,

or he's being pulled away from it.

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And it's, you'll see the structure is, is

actually perfectly written the way it is.

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So when you said this screenplay is

a joke or something, I almost threw

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my phone, but we'll get to that.

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Alright, so anyway.

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It's too, it's silly.

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I'm gonna hold my It's a fantasy.

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Okay, here we go.

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Okay, that was the theme stated.

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Okay, B story.

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Eight years later, we run into Arthur.

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Arthur, at this point, is an old man.

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Arthur serves as the helper character,

both bookending his trip back in time

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before he goes and when he comes back.

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He makes an appearance in

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But, he does serve as the B story

because he gives Richard the information

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he'll need to reach his spiritual goal.

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Including the info on the mysterious

portrait, which starts the

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whole damn movie to begin with.

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Right.

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That he sees in the Hall of

History in the Grand Hotel.

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And citing incidents, 17 minutes

in, Richard is investigating the

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picture of the woman, and he discovers

the picture of the old woman.

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And he recognizes the old woman.

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He knows now that the old lady that

came up to him at the beginning and

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said, come back to me is in fact, this

actress name Elise McKenna, who was

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in the photo in the hall of history.

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Good name, Elise.

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Yes.

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Very good name.

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Okay.

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Debate begins.

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So he gets the idea of self hypnosis

time travel from a professor.

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And he starts the preparation, right?

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First he wants to know if it can be done.

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This is all in the debate,

because he doesn't know yet if

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he's going to be able to do it.

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So, he gets the idea, he gets some

ideas, he, he The professor says

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that he believes that it can be done.

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So on and so forth.

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Catalyst.

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When he sees the register

book in the attic.

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Now, keep in mind, he attempts and fails.

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He tries it and he fails and he, and

he kind of is thinking, oh, this is bs.

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This isn't gonna work.

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And then, and then like this is all kind

of conserve as like sort of a debate, but

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running into the catalyst here, uh, he

realizes he got a tape recorder running.

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Mm-Hmm.

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, a tape recorder is current, present day.

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So he is gotta get rid of that.

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Chris: Yeah.

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That was one of the things

he had to get rid of.

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Anything that reminded him of his present.

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Jerome: Right.

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And.

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And he didn't believe yet.

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He needed the belief.

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So what does he do?

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He goes to find Arthur, the B Story helper

character, and says, Arthur, where can I

389

:

find the old registry from back in 1912?

390

:

Oh, it's up in the attic, of course.

391

:

Somehow he's just able to go up into

the attic of the grand fucking hotel

392

:

and find the registry from 1912.

393

:

But okay, fine, it's a movie.

394

:

It's a movie.

395

:

And he finds that he was there in 1912.

396

:

He signed the book.

397

:

That gives him all the

rest that he needs, right?

398

:

He's like, I'm in now.

399

:

I know it.

400

:

I was there.

401

:

So it does, it has to work.

402

:

It had to have worked.

403

:

So now that's his catalyst

because that's what catapults

404

:

him into the break into two.

405

:

Which is, he is now in 1912.

406

:

And 1912, of course, is

the mirror flip of Act One.

407

:

So that's how you know you're now in

Act Two, is because he wakes up in

408

:

the Grand Hotel in his fucking 1912.

409

:

And he's like, holy shit, I'm here.

410

:

Chris: He wakes up in the

room of some other people.

411

:

Jerome: Well This is interesting because

we're going to talk about this later.

412

:

Yeah.

413

:

He, he checks into the

Grand Hotel in:

414

:

He picks a room, any old random

room, and then he does the hypnosis.

415

:

Now, he wakes up in that

same room, but in:

416

:

Well, at that time, it's

somebody else's room.

417

:

Right.

418

:

Right?

419

:

So, he, of course, has to try to get out

of there, and then, so we have the next

420

:

This segment is the fun and games, right?

421

:

The first half of Act One.

422

:

He attempts to Now here's where we're

gonna do our positive negatives, okay?

423

:

He's gonna try to track down Elise, he

meets young Arthur and now we're going

424

:

to pinpoint the positive and negatives

that lead to his spiritual goal.

425

:

And they're almost every other scene.

426

:

It's insane.

427

:

So he sees her by the lake Oh, by

the way, this has a similar problem.

428

:

This is the only problem with the script.

429

:

What other film did we just

talk about that does this?

430

:

When you spend so much time, oh, it was

it was Fat Man and the Christmas Special.

431

:

When you spend so much time on the setup.

432

:

Yeah.

433

:

You end up getting to your midpoint

scene relatively quickly, right?

434

:

There's not a lot of meat there

in the fun and games section.

435

:

That happens here.

436

:

There's only a few scenes.

437

:

There's a really long scene

where he sees her at the lake.

438

:

But anyway, that's, alright, so that's

the uh, So when he first gets there,

439

:

he's fumbling around the playhouse trying

to find her and he can't find her and

440

:

nobody wants to help him out, right?

441

:

Right.

442

:

Negative.

443

:

Sees her by the lake and they

speak for the first time.

444

:

Positive.

445

:

Intro to manager, WFWF Robinson,

played by Christopher Plummer, who

446

:

gets in the way and you know, says

uh, he doesn't want him, you know,

447

:

he's trying to get him away, right?

448

:

He's involving himself to get in the

middle of the interaction that's negative.

449

:

Chris: And, and he, his role,

he was like her manager, right?

450

:

Jerome: Yeah, he's like a manager.

451

:

And again, so a lot of that

meat is within a few scenes.

452

:

And we're already at the midpoint scene.

453

:

Chris: Something I didn't really get,

and there's like, I guess there's a lot,

454

:

like, as the story goes, to me it was

very two dimensional and everything, but,

455

:

like They kept saying this thing like,

is he the one or something like that.

456

:

That, I didn't get that.

457

:

It's like, why did he have this idea that

there was going to be some mysterious

458

:

guy that was going to show up someday.

459

:

Where'd that come from?

460

:

Jerome: So here's the funny thing.

461

:

So I thought the same thing.

462

:

As I'm watching it, I'm thinking,

you know, all of that would have

463

:

mattered more if they had explained

what the fuck they're talking about.

464

:

But then, they do.

465

:

She says it, she explains to him later

when it's just her and him when they

466

:

escape on the horse and carriage.

467

:

Yeah.

468

:

He asks her, why did you say are you him?

469

:

You know, and he's, and she then tells

the story, and I'm like, Oh, well

470

:

if you would have said that earlier,

I wouldn't have yelled at the TV.

471

:

I can't remember what she told him.

472

:

She does explain it.

473

:

She just says that when she

first got hooked up with W.

474

:

F.

475

:

Robinson, and she first started to get

famous, he said that he had this prophecy,

476

:

like, almost like Anakin Skywalker like

prophecy, that someone would come along

477

:

and take her away and ruin her career.

478

:

Oh.

479

:

And, and that she would fall in love

with this person and go with them,

480

:

and her career would be ruined.

481

:

Right, so they already had this

sort of thing in there, right?

482

:

I thought it would have been again.

483

:

We're getting ahead of ourselves I

thought it would have been cool if it

484

:

had been revealed that maybe he had

gone back Before, earlier to where W.

485

:

F.

486

:

Robinson had already met him.

487

:

But then that wouldn't make sense,

and you know, a lot of cloudy there.

488

:

But okay, so let's just

stick with what we've got.

489

:

Midpoint scene.

490

:

He gets his first dance with Elise, and

she reveals that she knows something about

491

:

him, but can't quite put her finger on it.

492

:

This is positive, and this is,

this is a positive element.

493

:

And he has achieved his tangible goal.

494

:

Not only has he met her,

but now they're talking.

495

:

Remember, when they first meet, he doesn't

have much of a conversation with her.

496

:

Right?

497

:

Because she's kind of stuck on

stupid, and he's stuck on stupid.

498

:

They're just sort of staring at each

other awkwardly for like 30 seconds.

499

:

And then the manager comes along and

he's like, Oh, what's going on here?

500

:

Get out of here, Superman.

501

:

And you know, it's like, so, you

know, it's so weird at the beginning.

502

:

So this is actually his tangible

goal that he has achieved,

503

:

because he gets to dance with her.

504

:

And they're actually

having a conversation.

505

:

Alright, false, why is it a false victory?

506

:

Because this leads to W.

507

:

F.

508

:

Robinson's jealousy and sabotage.

509

:

Negative.

510

:

Bad guys closing in.

511

:

Persistence in the hallway.

512

:

He finally lands his first date.

513

:

Positive.

514

:

While having breakfast, W.

515

:

F.

516

:

Robinson enters, this is the next

scene by the way, and tries to

517

:

get, tries to get tough with him.

518

:

Negative.

519

:

They go out on their first date.

520

:

A montage of them sort of falling

for each other, culminating

521

:

in an end of the date kiss.

522

:

Positive.

523

:

W.

524

:

F.

525

:

Robinson interrupts again.

526

:

Negative.

527

:

This is all, like, right after each other.

528

:

Play.

529

:

Elise goes off script and

pours her heart out to Richard,

530

:

who's standing in the crowd.

531

:

Positive.

532

:

W.

533

:

F.

534

:

Robinson wants to meet and ends his

meeting with him with a savage beatdown.

535

:

Negative.

536

:

Dressing room, Elise confesses

her love for Richard.

537

:

Positive.

538

:

All is lost, Richard wakes up in

the barn and finds that the company,

539

:

the acting company, has left.

540

:

Elise is gone, and he

has no means to find her.

541

:

Negative, and all is lost.

542

:

Dark night of the soul, depressed

and sitting outside, he can't

543

:

begin to contemplate what he's

possibly going to do next.

544

:

Break into three, Elise arrives in the

background and yells to Richard, Richard!

545

:

And they're reunited.

546

:

Positive.

547

:

Break into three, five

point finale, here we go.

548

:

Gathering the team.

549

:

This is code for sex.

550

:

Okay?

551

:

Gathering the team.

552

:

What I mean by that is gathering

the billions of sperm because

553

:

Richard and Elyse finally bone.

554

:

Okay, execution of the plan.

555

:

Richard and Elyse now are

snacking the next morning.

556

:

You presume they've been up all

night boning because they're

557

:

still like, half dressed, right?

558

:

Richard and Elyse, while

snacking, are discussing their

559

:

plans for the future together.

560

:

Right?

561

:

Hightower Surprise.

562

:

He see Now wait, before we

get to the Hightower Surprise.

563

:

The prophecy was almost was Wasn't

true until this moment, right?

564

:

She did meet a guy.

565

:

Christopher Reeve even says in the

meeting with with Robinson, She's

566

:

gonna continue to act, I'm not

gonna keep her from her career.

567

:

We're just gonna be together, that's all.

568

:

And while they're sitting there

snacking, she even says, Oh, I'm gonna

569

:

keep acting, but we'll be together.

570

:

So, the prophecy of the one that would

come along and take her away from

571

:

this business hadn't happened yet

until Until The Hightower Surprise.

572

:

Right.

573

:

He sees the coin in his pocket

that says:

574

:

him back to the future.

575

:

I had to put that in there.

576

:

Back to the future.

577

:

Dig down deep.

578

:

He wakes up in 1980,

and he can't get back.

579

:

He realizes he's lost her forever.

580

:

Execution of the new plan, he doesn't eat.

581

:

He doesn't eat, he doesn't

do anything for days, and he

582

:

seemingly dies of a broken heart.

583

:

Climax, A and B stories collide as Arthur

enters the room, calls for paramedics,

584

:

but it's too late, they can't save him.

585

:

Which leads to the resolution and

closing image, and Richard achieves

586

:

his spiritual goal by being reunited

with Elyse in heaven for all eternity.

587

:

Okay?

588

:

Now We were laughing

so hard at that point.

589

:

Now, you're such an ass.

590

:

You know, this is the part

that mom cries at every time.

591

:

It's

592

:

Chris: so unbelievable, man.

593

:

Every bit of this was

594

:

Jerome: so unbelievable.

595

:

It's a fantasy!

596

:

You know this, that actually, if

you look up like the, the, the,

597

:

like the genres of this film,

they put it in the sci fi section.

598

:

Sci fi?

599

:

Not sci fi.

600

:

The Romance.

601

:

It's in sci fi.

602

:

Oh my gosh.

603

:

But anyway, yeah.

604

:

Because it's, it's a fantasy.

605

:

Now, wait.

606

:

So we're getting a couple

things on character arc.

607

:

The tangible goal, right, was to

meet her and talk to her and he

608

:

achieves that at the midpoint scene.

609

:

His spiritual goal was to

be together for eternity.

610

:

Yeah.

611

:

He did not know that that

was his spiritual goal.

612

:

That's the key thing.

613

:

If you were to take Richard at

the end of the movie and take him

614

:

at the beginning of the movie.

615

:

He's a young, hot playwright

in the beginning of the movie.

616

:

He'd be like, there's no way I'm going to

kill myself for some old bitch who just

617

:

came up to me and gave me a pocket watch.

618

:

No fucking way.

619

:

But he's got to learn the journey and

realize that that's his spiritual goal was

620

:

to spend eternity with Elise because there

were 80 years apart or no, what was that?

621

:

69, 68 years apart.

622

:

There's 68 years apart.

623

:

Yeah.

624

:

So for the only way for them to be

together, both, you know, young and

625

:

Good looking is to be in heaven.

626

:

Yeah.

627

:

So they achieve their spiritual goal.

628

:

He's with the woman he loves.

629

:

Okay.

630

:

Now, before I continue on, on my notes.

631

:

Yes.

632

:

Continue on with your interactions.

633

:

First of all, is this the first

time you've seen the movie?

634

:

Chris: No, no.

635

:

So I, we usually talk about like our

history with the shit, the movie.

636

:

I don't remember the shit.

637

:

I don't remember yet.

638

:

I don't remember the first time I saw

it, but I remember loving the movie.

639

:

Jerome: It was on cable a

lot when we were growing up.

640

:

Chris: Yeah, I think

it was on cable a lot.

641

:

I mean obviously I didn't see

it in:

642

:

know, nine years old or whatever.

643

:

Yeah.

644

:

But I remember

645

:

Jerome: liking it.

646

:

Like when we got HBO,

when we got HBO, remember?

647

:

Chris: Yeah, so I think I liked

it because of time travel.

648

:

I, I was just, you know, drawn

in by the idea of time travel.

649

:

Jerome: And it was Superman.

650

:

Chris: And it was

Superman, right, exactly.

651

:

And that's why it probably

made money at the box office.

652

:

Barely.

653

:

Whatever money it made.

654

:

Barely.

655

:

But it, it did.

656

:

It, you know, it cleared a profit.

657

:

Jerome: It made its money back.

658

:

Yeah.

659

:

It made it clear to profit.

660

:

Chris: So, re watching it now.

661

:

I watched it with my wife, Jessie.

662

:

And

663

:

Jerome: Cold heartless, Jessie.

664

:

Chris: It was, it was like, well, we've

watched so much, there's so much good,

665

:

even television now, is like, movie

quality, a lot, a lot, we just watched

666

:

1883, blown away by that series, it was

amazing, and like, this, this movie was

667

:

so two dimensional, it was like, you're

right, it was like a fairy tale, you know?

668

:

Jerome: It's very much like a fairy tale.

669

:

Yeah.

670

:

And, and there, it,

671

:

Chris: Well, I was just gonna say, like,

the whole idea, like, that they, like, I,

672

:

I, at the end of the movie, I thought to

myself, Oh my gosh, that must've been one

673

:

hell of a lay because 60 some years go by

and this woman's like, come back to me.

674

:

Jerome: She's like, I haven't had

dick in 68 years like yours, Superman.

675

:

Get your ass back to me.

676

:

Because if I don't get dicked

down like that again, I'm

677

:

gonna die an old cranky woman.

678

:

Which is what happens, by the way.

679

:

She dies an old cranky woman.

680

:

Chris: So that's, yeah,

so that's what I was like.

681

:

It was just so unrealistic.

682

:

Jerome: So who knew Christopher

Reeve has a major sex pro It was like

683

:

Chris: the biggest, the most

ultimate one night stand in the

684

:

history of one night stands.

685

:

Jerome: You could say they were probably

up all night, so they did it several

686

:

times, but obviously, he rocked her

religion, dude, because she was willing

687

:

to give everything up after that.

688

:

Chris: But seriously,

though, so here's the thing.

689

:

Well, she didn't know she was gonna

kill him by telling him to come back.

690

:

That would have been even more

diabolical if she knew as soon

691

:

as he got back, he was gonna die.

692

:

Right.

693

:

Right.

694

:

She didn't know that part.

695

:

Jerome: There's no way she

could know any of that.

696

:

Right.

697

:

She just, I think she just

thought, Come back to me.

698

:

But don't bring that fucking coin

with you again this time, asshole.

699

:

She should have said that.

700

:

Yeah, she should have.

701

:

She should have said, Come back

to me and leave all your fucking

702

:

pennies in the goddamn room.

703

:

Anyway, so Because there is

foreshadowing to that, by the way.

704

:

Yeah, I know.

705

:

if you caught it.

706

:

Yeah, I did.

707

:

When he was preparing everything,

he's looking at the coins that are

708

:

dated 1912, and he's like, Okay, okay.

709

:

And then he sees some 1979 ones,

and he's like, Oh, oh, that was,

710

:

oh, that could have been a problem.

711

:

And he takes them and puts them away.

712

:

Like, you obviously missed one, jerk hole.

713

:

Like, you missed one.

714

:

And of course, that's

the one you pull out.

715

:

Right after you just had

the boning of your life.

716

:

Oh my god Anyway, all right.

717

:

So moving on to plot holes And there's

gonna be a lot of these for both of

718

:

these movies But anyway, actually

there is there's only really one.

719

:

There's a lot in the next movie.

720

:

There's a one here That is hard to

explain but I was gonna say I actually

721

:

thought this is you just call it two

dimensional It's it's so true how

722

:

How simple this movie is compared

to how complex the next movie is.

723

:

Right.

724

:

Right?

725

:

There's so many more meticulous

intricacies in the next movie that

726

:

it makes rule breaking inevitable.

727

:

Oh yeah.

728

:

But in this movie, it's

pretty straightforward.

729

:

It's very, like you said, two

dimensional, so it doesn't leave

730

:

a lot of room for rule breaking.

731

:

There is just only one, not really a

rule break, but sort of a plot hole.

732

:

And that is how the fuck

does he move around?

733

:

How is his body moving?

734

:

So I'll give you an example.

735

:

Oh, Like I said, when he first hypnotizes

himself, right, he goes back in time.

736

:

He wakes up in the room that he's in.

737

:

Chris: Yeah, I didn't even

think about that, yeah.

738

:

Jerome: In 1912.

739

:

But then, later, at the end of

the movie, when he finds the

740

:

coin, he's in McKenna's room.

741

:

He's in Elise McKenna's room, and when

he gets catapulted back, he wakes up in

742

:

that room in 1980, and he has to get up

and be like, Oh, fuck, he has to get out

743

:

of this room and get back to his room.

744

:

Yeah, so where's he

running around in:

745

:

Physical body is running around, fucking

moved from rums room to the other,

746

:

which makes you think one of two things.

747

:

One does his, did his body disappear

when he went into hypnosis and

748

:

it reappeared in that room.

749

:

When he came back, which is unrealistic.

750

:

Or, all the time he's in 1912,

like walking around and riding

751

:

horse carriages and shit, is his

body in real life doing that too?

752

:

And people are just like watching

him walk by, like, Hey, that

753

:

dude's fucking out of it, dude.

754

:

Look at him, he's like hypnotized.

755

:

Look, he's

756

:

floating, he's not even on a

carriage, but it looks like he's on

757

:

a carriage.

758

:

Right, like, and his, his mouth is

moving, he's like not even talking

759

:

to us, like Like, somebody would have

stopped him or woke him up, right?

760

:

Like, hey, buddy, you alright?

761

:

Like, so obviously that's

not happening either.

762

:

So we know his body didn't disappear, and

we know he wasn't just walking aimlessly

763

:

around 1980 while this movie's going on.

764

:

So how the fuck, how the fuck did his body

move from one room to the other, right?

765

:

So that's, that's the biggest plot hole.

766

:

It would have been so much easier if

they just said, hey, when he hypnotized

767

:

himself, he went to sleep in that

room and he wakes up in that room.

768

:

Regardless of where he was in 1912.

769

:

It's kinda like Tim in the next movie,

he goes and comes back in that closet.

770

:

It doesn't matter what

he does in the meantime.

771

:

He's in the same closet.

772

:

So, they could have done the same thing

here, just he wakes up in his bed.

773

:

You know what I mean?

774

:

They try to get too, it's almost

like they try to get too creative,

775

:

like, But if he fell asleep in that

room, then he wakes up in that room.

776

:

But it's like, how did his body get there?

777

:

Dumbass.

778

:

Like, there's no, you know what I mean?

779

:

So that's, that's the only thing that

I, to me, I think is a plot hole.

780

:

Okay.

781

:

So,

782

:

Chris: And, and honestly, the, the,

the fact that like so much weight was

783

:

put About, you know, on this romance

that was literally a one night stand.

784

:

Jerome: It was, but I think they

do spend a lot of time building

785

:

up his obsession with the picture.

786

:

Chris: Well, so, I mean, come on, man.

787

:

This is 2024.

788

:

There's a lot of young men that

are infatuated with some pictures.

789

:

Jerome: Yes, yes, and I know how it feels.

790

:

To want to catapult to a different

time and place to meet the person

791

:

you're looking at in the video.

792

:

I mean a picture.

793

:

Oh, no.

794

:

Anyway, I'm just kidding.

795

:

Just kidding wife.

796

:

Anyway all right, so So let's

get to some quick trivia.

797

:

You may have some too.

798

:

I don't know.

799

:

I just pulled some up some random

ones Yeah Richard Matheson who wrote

800

:

the book and the screenplay once

said somewhere in time is the story

801

:

of a love which transcends time

What dreams may come is the story

802

:

of a love which transcends death.

803

:

I feel that they represent the best

writing I've done in the novel form.

804

:

Chris: Yeah, so this movie does kind

of end in a sort of a Titanic y kind of

805

:

way.

806

:

Jerome: Yeah, very much.

807

:

Very much so.

808

:

Chris: Rose and Jack are

reunited going, you know.

809

:

Jerome: And actually, if you think

about it, I wonder if James Cameron

810

:

was inspired by this because Rose

is very much like Elise McKenna.

811

:

Right?

812

:

She lives her whole life.

813

:

Dies an old woman.

814

:

Right?

815

:

Warm in her bed.

816

:

As, as Leo says.

817

:

Yeah.

818

:

Right?

819

:

Interesting.

820

:

And he dies very young.

821

:

And she almost has to wait for him in

heaven until he, or, you know, whatever.

822

:

Timing is all fucked up,

but you know what I mean.

823

:

She, you know what I mean?

824

:

So, you get what I'm saying though.

825

:

It's very similar to

where one of them died.

826

:

He has to wait for her in Titanic.

827

:

Right, because they,

they were the same age.

828

:

They lived in the same time.

829

:

This movie, they're 68

years apart in time.

830

:

Right.

831

:

So he could die young.

832

:

But die 68 years later.

833

:

Actually Fuck, this is

starting to hurt my head.

834

:

He actually only died 8 years after her.

835

:

Yeah.

836

:

She died the night of the play.

837

:

Right, right.

838

:

Right, okay.

839

:

Alright, so we're there.

840

:

We're there, we'll find it.

841

:

We'll find it.

842

:

We'll find it.

843

:

We'll have to cut all that out.

844

:

Alright.

845

:

So while they were shooting the film

on location, this is kind of a funny

846

:

story, a local movie house, on Mackinac

Island, decided to play Superman.

847

:

Which was in theaters at the time.

848

:

They decided to play Superman

which was a huge hit.

849

:

Of course, Christopher Reeve

was in town shooting the movie.

850

:

All the people from the set, the

actors, actresses, crew, they

851

:

all went to go watch Superman.

852

:

No.

853

:

Halfway through the

movie, the sound goes out.

854

:

Christopher Reeve stands up and

starts saying the lines to everybody's

855

:

parts as the movie's going on.

856

:

That's hilarious.

857

:

Because he knew all the lines.

858

:

He

859

:

knew all the lines.

860

:

Chris: What a treat for the

people in the audience, huh?

861

:

That would have been cool.

862

:

Jerome: Yeah another piece

of trivia, William H.

863

:

Macy is actually in this film.

864

:

He's in the opening scene as a critic

at the play the play after party.

865

:

This is another interesting one,

since of what we just went through in

866

:

the fall when we did our Hoffa show.

867

:

Poor box office is partially because the

actors were on strike at the time, and

868

:

they were not able to promote the movie.

869

:

Hmm.

870

:

It did receive an, it did receive an

Oscar nomination for Best Costumes.

871

:

Did not win, but it did

get an Oscar nomination.

872

:

Alright, are we gonna close

the book on Somewhere in Time?

873

:

Chris: I know I'm gonna

get a lot of hate mail.

874

:

I mean, there's some people

that are just die hard fans.

875

:

Jerome: I'm telling you, there's

a cult following, look it up.

876

:

They have like a name and everything.

877

:

There's like a president.

878

:

Chris: And actually, if you wanna

go, watch this movie on Mackinac

879

:

Island every year that you can.

880

:

People come from all over the world,

they get rooms at the Grand Hotel.

881

:

And they have a, a screening, I don't

know where they screen it, but they

882

:

have a screening of Somewhere in Time.

883

:

In the Hall of History.

884

:

And everybody dresses up in the

, you know, early:

885

:

Jerome: Which is another funny bit.

886

:

Did you notice that they mentioned it

two or three times, that he gets this

887

:

outfit from 1912 so that he'll fit in,

but when he gets there, everyone's like,

888

:

oh, that outfit is so 10 years ago.

889

:

And he's always like, why is

everyone hating on my outfit?

890

:

He was so proud of that suit

and everybody bashed it.

891

:

Chris: Yeah, that was good.

892

:

So yeah, let's, let's move on.

893

:

I think I, I found about time we

were, we were looking for something to

894

:

watch something to stream and we were

watching trailers and watch that one.

895

:

And I think Jessie saw it before and

she's like, Oh, I think you'll like this.

896

:

So, so we watched it together the

first time I saw it and I loved it.

897

:

I thought it was a great.

898

:

I thought it was a great story.

899

:

And it was actually, I think

we're gonna have to talk about

900

:

some spoilers about how it ends.

901

:

So if you haven't seen it

about time, you need to go.

902

:

I spent ten years.

903

:

Yeah, go see the movie.

904

:

It's good.

905

:

You'll enjoy it.

906

:

Jerome: Or pause this, go watch the

movie, and then come back to this.

907

:

Chris: Yeah, come on back.

908

:

And, for me, I know there's some, I know

there's some plot holes, not plot holes,

909

:

but what do you call them, continuity

errors or something when it comes to

910

:

Jerome: Plot holes.

911

:

Chris: Plot holes.

912

:

It's not plot holes, it's

913

:

Jerome: Oh, they're plot holes.

914

:

Chris: When it comes to tri

it's, they break the rules.

915

:

They break the rules when

it comes to time travel.

916

:

Jerome: There's definitely

some rule breaking.

917

:

Yes.

918

:

Yes.

919

:

Chris: But the, the acting, the, I thought

the script was pretty good but the acting,

920

:

especially the, the actors, all the,

the, the, the cast they, they carried it.

921

:

I mean, it was just a, a, it

was enjoyable to watch, so.

922

:

Oh, you went tall.

923

:

I went tall too for my second one.

924

:

Jerome: Nice.

925

:

Big hearted, what does that say?

926

:

Big farted?

927

:

Chris: Big hearted IPA by Bells.

928

:

So, I'm a big fan of Bells two hearted.

929

:

Big hearted IPA is an

imperial IPA as well.

930

:

So, this is two imperials back to back

except this one's nine and a half percent.

931

:

I better drink this one

slow, but yeah, here we go.

932

:

And I thought.

933

:

It wasn't time travel, but a big hearted,

I thought this, you know, these movies

934

:

are kind of love stories, you know, love

is a theme through both of these movies.

935

:

So big hearted IPA I thought

would be a good choice.

936

:

Jerome: Yes, big heart, big heart.

937

:

Not a lot of big heart in this next movie.

938

:

What?

939

:

I'm just kidding.

940

:

Actually there's a lot of

heart, see, okay, I'm gonna,

941

:

we'll get, oh my god dude.

942

:

It sounds like you were like, had been

up all night drinking and this is the

943

:

first piss you had the next morning.

944

:

Chris: Oh yeah, this

Imperial, man, this, mm.

945

:

We need a sponsorship from Bells now.

946

:

Alright.

947

:

Wow, this is good.

948

:

Man, thank you Bells.

949

:

Alright, go for it.

950

:

Jerome: Are we ready?

951

:

Are we ready?

952

:

Okay, I'm waiting for you to finish your

love affair with this, with this glass

953

:

that you're just like making love to.

954

:

Chris: It's, I mean, it's great.

955

:

Jerome: You're going all Christopher

Reeve and that glass is Jane Seymour.

956

:

Chris: I mean, it's so

pleasant on the nose.

957

:

Anyway so you want me to do the log line?

958

:

What do you want to do first?

959

:

Jerome: No, not yet, not yet.

960

:

Let me build up to it first.

961

:

Alright, go for it.

962

:

Alright, about time.

963

:

2013 original screenplay written

and directed by Richard Curtis.

964

:

Best known previously for writing

some UK gems such as Black

965

:

Adder, the Black Adder series.

966

:

But really became mainstream with his

best picture nominated for Weddings and

967

:

a Funeral in 1994, which also earned

him his only best screenplay nomination.

968

:

He would go on to write popular films such

as Notting Hill, Bridget Jones's Diary,

969

:

and Love Actually, which he also directed.

970

:

I'm a big fan of this guy, okay?

971

:

I, I love all those Yeah, I love

972

:

Chris: Notting Hill was so much fun.

973

:

Those films It was one of Jessie's

favorite films in the 90s.

974

:

Jerome: And I remember telling Jessie one

time that I think the ending of Notting

975

:

Hill might, might be the greatest ending

to a romantic comedy I've ever seen.

976

:

Quite possibly.

977

:

The hole in the press conference room.

978

:

That's such a great scene, how it

979

:

plays out.

980

:

Hugh Grant and Julie Roberts,

that came out in:

981

:

So really, 99, early

982

:

2000s, 99, Bridget Jones Diary

was:

983

:

Of the group!

984

:

And keep in mind, Four Weddings

and a Funeral is fantastic.

985

:

It was up for Best Picture.

986

:

I have a little trivia on that later too.

987

:

Of the group, Love

Actually is my favorite.

988

:

Love Actually might be my, is my

favorite of the Richard Curtis movies.

989

:

And the reason why I don't say that

ending is better than Notting Hill,

990

:

because there's several stories

going on, so there's several endings.

991

:

For instance, the Colin Firth

ending is great, but The Alan

992

:

Rickman ending is not so great.

993

:

You know so But Notting

Hill, it's one story.

994

:

So like, that's like, the

sledgehammer ending is just great.

995

:

Okay, we're getting off track.

996

:

Okay, About Time was

th,:

997

:

It finished its box office

run with 87 million worldwide.

998

:

However, only 15 of that was domestic.

999

:

But, it's a British movie.

:

00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:21,820

Yeah, so it's big in overseas,

it was not that big here.

:

00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:25,420

It was good for number

81 on the worldwide list.

:

00:40:25,830 --> 00:40:33,390

By contrast, the number one worldwide

film of:

:

00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:38,530

2 billion, with a B, billion dollars.

:

00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:38,960

Yeah.

:

00:40:39,010 --> 00:40:42,250

About Time's budget was only 12

million though, so it turned a profit.

:

00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:42,830

Sure.

:

00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,530

That was a pretty nice profit.

:

00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,190

Yeah, oh yeah, log me.

:

00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:47,860

Chris: Alright, logline.

:

00:40:49,150 --> 00:40:54,450

At the age of 21, Tim discovers he can

travel in time and change what happens

:

00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:56,690

and has happened in his own life.

:

00:40:56,730 --> 00:41:01,910

His decision to make his world a better

place by getting a girlfriend turns out

:

00:41:01,930 --> 00:41:04,620

not to be as easy as you might think.

:

00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:06,950

Jerome: One hundred percent bullshit.

:

00:41:07,230 --> 00:41:08,720

Ha ha ha ha ha.

:

00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,270

Getting the girl was the easy part.

:

00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:11,750

Yeah.

:

00:41:12,915 --> 00:41:15,045

It's the second half of the

movie, which we always know.

:

00:41:15,095 --> 00:41:16,695

Second half, things go to shit, right?

:

00:41:16,985 --> 00:41:18,715

Chris: Yeah, that's not a good logline.

:

00:41:18,965 --> 00:41:19,375

For this

:

00:41:19,375 --> 00:41:19,565

film.

:

00:41:19,735 --> 00:41:22,185

Jerome: But it's okay, it

works, it works, it works.

:

00:41:22,185 --> 00:41:25,355

Chris: But that was his,

that was his tangible goal.

:

00:41:25,355 --> 00:41:25,925

Right?

:

00:41:25,925 --> 00:41:26,495

Yes.

:

00:41:26,495 --> 00:41:27,615

Finding love.

:

00:41:27,685 --> 00:41:28,885

Jerome: He even says

that at the beginning.

:

00:41:29,015 --> 00:41:31,495

When he first learns that he

has this power, he's like, I'd

:

00:41:31,495 --> 00:41:32,605

like to use it to get a girl.

:

00:41:32,685 --> 00:41:33,025

Right.

:

00:41:33,085 --> 00:41:33,415

Right?

:

00:41:33,905 --> 00:41:36,175

Chris: And his dad goes, wow.

:

00:41:36,545 --> 00:41:36,835

Yeah.

:

00:41:37,775 --> 00:41:38,115

And

:

00:41:38,985 --> 00:41:39,705

What'd he say?

:

00:41:39,745 --> 00:41:40,665

He said something else.

:

00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:41,355

There's another word he used.

:

00:41:41,355 --> 00:41:43,590

Jerome: He says something like,

Earth shattering or something or

:

00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:47,350

groundbreaking or something like a big

fucking whoop be like you just found

:

00:41:47,350 --> 00:41:49,250

out You've got a power that nobody else

:

00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:51,510

has and you're gonna

use it just to get laid.

:

00:41:51,570 --> 00:41:52,020

All right, cool

:

00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,950

Chris: Massive I think you say

:

00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:59,770

Jerome: oh, that's what he says Yeah,

and the best Bill Nye kind of way, right?

:

00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,980

Yeah, okay we have The Beats.

:

00:42:05,770 --> 00:42:09,430

Opening image, Tim wakes up

depressed with his ordinary life.

:

00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:14,590

Set up after his 21st birthday birthday

on New Year's Eve, Tim discovers from

:

00:42:14,590 --> 00:42:16,950

his dad that he can travel through time.

:

00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,560

Theme stated at the 10 minute mark.

:

00:42:20,620 --> 00:42:23,310

After trying it out and realizing

his dad is not fucking with

:

00:42:23,310 --> 00:42:24,410

him and telling the truth.

:

00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,360

Which, because he thought it was

a total scam at the beginning.

:

00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,775

His father says, and I quote, You

have to use it for things that

:

00:42:31,775 --> 00:42:35,215

you really think will make your

life the way you want it to be.

:

00:42:35,685 --> 00:42:36,155

End quote.

:

00:42:36,915 --> 00:42:38,725

This will be Tim's running theme.

:

00:42:38,735 --> 00:42:40,455

Will he or won't he?

:

00:42:40,685 --> 00:42:43,275

Will he use it for bettering

his life long term?

:

00:42:43,495 --> 00:42:46,715

Or will he use it selfishly

for instant gratification?

:

00:42:47,230 --> 00:42:49,930

Sorry, I just threw that in there

with my little, I, I put a little

:

00:42:49,930 --> 00:42:51,220

stank on that there, on there.

:

00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:56,710

, or will he learn, or here's the best part,

or will he learn not to use it at all?

:

00:42:56,770 --> 00:42:57,010

Mm.

:

00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,020

And just let life happen.

:

00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:59,840

Right.

:

00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,070

Okay.

:

00:43:01,075 --> 00:43:03,770

Are you starting to get an idea of

where I'm going with his spiritual goal?

:

00:43:03,860 --> 00:43:03,920

Yeah.

:

00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,280

All right.

:

00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:04,550

Yep.

:

00:43:04,850 --> 00:43:05,720

More set up.

:

00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:07,910

He tests it out on the

summer of Charlotte.

:

00:43:08,105 --> 00:43:10,605

Played by Margot Robey in

an early movie for her.

:

00:43:11,805 --> 00:43:14,825

Only to find out that changing

one thing might not be enough

:

00:43:14,825 --> 00:43:16,025

when dealing with women.

:

00:43:16,215 --> 00:43:16,555

Right?

:

00:43:16,775 --> 00:43:19,195

His last night plan backfires.

:

00:43:19,645 --> 00:43:20,875

He learns a valuable lesson there.

:

00:43:21,305 --> 00:43:24,625

He decides to relocate to London

where he meets his roommate Harry,

:

00:43:24,635 --> 00:43:27,995

played by Tom Hollander, who I

believe steals the show of this movie.

:

00:43:28,285 --> 00:43:29,180

Harry is my favorite.

:

00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,000

My favorite character of this whole movie.

:

00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:33,670

The fucking roommate is the best.

:

00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:35,210

Chris: Kind of like in Notting Hill.

:

00:43:36,620 --> 00:43:37,090

Jerome: Very much.

:

00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,880

Well, okay, so we're

catching a theme here,

:

00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,090

right?

:

00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:42,300

Chris: Yeah, the Notting Hill

roommate, I love that guy.

:

00:43:42,310 --> 00:43:45,880

He was so, like, gross and funny.

:

00:43:46,685 --> 00:43:48,045

Jerome: Yeah, Tom Hollander is great.

:

00:43:48,085 --> 00:43:50,495

Okay, inciting incident, the catalyst.

:

00:43:50,525 --> 00:43:54,635

His friend Jay takes him to a dark

restaurant, which actually, this

:

00:43:54,635 --> 00:43:59,105

restaurant does exist in London, where

the waiters and waitresses are all blind.

:

00:43:59,335 --> 00:44:04,735

So they kill all the lights so that

the customers know what it's like, and

:

00:44:04,735 --> 00:44:07,935

they seat you with other people, and

you have to try to get to know each

:

00:44:07,935 --> 00:44:09,685

other based on conversation alone.

:

00:44:09,715 --> 00:44:10,075

Hang on,

:

00:44:10,095 --> 00:44:10,735

hang on, hang on.

:

00:44:10,745 --> 00:44:12,005

Sorry, I messed up.

:

00:44:12,005 --> 00:44:13,885

You were talking about

Harry as the roommate.

:

00:44:15,245 --> 00:44:19,365

Yeah, for some reason I was

thinking Rory, he's his co worker.

:

00:44:19,455 --> 00:44:20,695

Oh yeah, Rory's his co worker.

:

00:44:20,695 --> 00:44:22,995

Yeah, he was funny too,

but you're right, Harry was

:

00:44:23,135 --> 00:44:23,665

awesome.

:

00:44:23,885 --> 00:44:26,265

Yeah, Harry, to me, is the best.

:

00:44:26,335 --> 00:44:27,865

Rory had some funny moments too.

:

00:44:28,270 --> 00:44:32,360

But Harry in fact, those two had

one really funny scene together.

:

00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:34,350

I was gonna save it for later,

but I'll just tell you now.

:

00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,840

One of my favorite moments

is when the baby shower.

:

00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:40,300

And they show Rory with this

HUGE ass stuffed animal.

:

00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:42,200

And they're like, wow,

that's a nice animal!

:

00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,260

And he's like, oh, thank you!

:

00:44:43,410 --> 00:44:46,460

I was told you should never bring

a toy to a baby shower that small.

:

00:44:46,460 --> 00:44:50,140

And then the camera cuts to

Tom Hollander, and he's holding

:

00:44:50,140 --> 00:44:52,900

this little stuffed animal, and

he's all, Oh, shut the fuck up.

:

00:44:55,870 --> 00:44:56,720

That is so great.

:

00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,820

Tom Hollander, Harry's part in

that whole movie is just funny.

:

00:45:01,980 --> 00:45:05,470

When he goes off on the aunt, because

all she wanted was a signature, and he

:

00:45:05,470 --> 00:45:08,510

thought she was just some fan, and he's

going off on her, and then Tim walks up

:

00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:09,640

and he's like, Oh, have you met my aunt?

:

00:45:09,650 --> 00:45:11,130

And he's like, Oh, fuck off.

:

00:45:12,830 --> 00:45:15,990

Like, like, like the bad

luck only comes to Harry.

:

00:45:16,010 --> 00:45:16,340

Yeah.

:

00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:22,950

And so, and by the way, nobody in this

film or perhaps any film in film history

:

00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,460

wears disappointment on their face better

than Tom Hollander as Harry in this movie.

:

00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:31,730

It's so palpable every time.

:

00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:35,890

Just the way he stares with that look,

like, doesn't he have to say anything?

:

00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:36,860

God.

:

00:45:37,260 --> 00:45:39,780

He was the best part of the, if I watch

this movie again, it's because of him.

:

00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,110

Yeah.

:

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All right.

:

00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:43,290

I already had to watch it

several times for this show.

:

00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:48,350

Alright, so Okay, so his friend Jay takes

him to the dark restaurant where he meets

:

00:45:48,350 --> 00:45:50,110

Mary in the dark and they hit it off.

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00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:51,000

21 minutes in.

:

00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,600

Realizing, so debate begins, realizing

his roommate Harry's night as a play

:

00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,680

director fails miserably, he has to

decide whether or not to intervene or

:

00:46:00,710 --> 00:46:02,690

to keep his wonderful night with Mary.

:

00:46:05,605 --> 00:46:12,855

Sorry The mic ultra had a point the mic

ultra had a point it wanted to make it

:

00:46:12,855 --> 00:46:20,615

was trying to come out I was holding it

in sorry Okay Break into two Tim decides

:

00:46:20,615 --> 00:46:26,000

to risk it all and help Harry, but now

he's in a new world Where the girl he

:

00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,120

hit it off with doesn't know who he is.

:

00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:33,440

So now we're in the upside down version

of one, of act one, where he was

:

00:46:33,450 --> 00:46:35,460

sort of like, met the girl, you know?

:

00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:35,810

Right, right.

:

00:46:35,810 --> 00:46:37,490

And everything was kind of going

Now he's in a mirror flip, but the

:

00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:40,250

girl doesn't know who he is anymore,

because he fucking changed things.

:

00:46:40,310 --> 00:46:40,650

Right.

:

00:46:41,075 --> 00:46:42,035

Fun and games!

:

00:46:42,095 --> 00:46:46,765

The new Mary, the one that doesn't

know who Tim is, is the B Story.

:

00:46:46,985 --> 00:46:48,015

This is interesting.

:

00:46:48,125 --> 00:46:49,415

A clever play on this.

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00:46:49,425 --> 00:46:53,015

She wasn't the B Story when he first

met her, but she's the B Story now.

:

00:46:53,395 --> 00:46:57,480

Because now she's the person that

he eventually marries, right?

:

00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:01,500

So, a character that serves as the

love interest, but also the person that

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00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:03,640

will help Tim reach his spiritual goal.

:

00:47:04,130 --> 00:47:10,080

Trailer scenes emerge, as we are now

in Act 2, he he can now manipulate how

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00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:15,590

he meets Mary, how she takes interest

in him, and even redoes a sexual

:

00:47:15,590 --> 00:47:17,670

encounter until it serves his needs.

:

00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,680

Yes, that sounded as stankful

as I meant it to sound.

:

00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:26,150

Suddenly, even Charlotte wants in

his pants, and in a save the cat

:

00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:31,760

sort of way, we are to believe

that he doesn't smash Charlotte.

:

00:47:33,020 --> 00:47:35,140

Even though he could

redo it, if he wanted to.

:

00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,445

If this were real There is literally no

way he doesn't nail Charlotte because

:

00:47:40,445 --> 00:47:45,745

he can always just go back Right, but

again in sort of and I think Richard

:

00:47:45,745 --> 00:47:53,095

Curtis knew this that if you really want

the audience To be on Tim's side, right?

:

00:47:53,125 --> 00:47:58,260

He can't be a dog This was his save

the cat moment, but it's 100 percent

:

00:47:58,260 --> 00:48:02,990

bullshit, he nails Margot Robey,

you know he would, we all would!

:

00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,630

I mean, she's Barbie, man.

:

00:48:05,390 --> 00:48:08,830

Dude, and if you had the chance to go

back in time and just say it didn't

:

00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,015

happen, but you still get to keep the

memory, who the fuck Wouldn't do that.

:

00:48:14,345 --> 00:48:18,095

So now I'm being patronized and

now you're gonna start to hear my

:

00:48:18,095 --> 00:48:21,825

anger kick up because this is where

It's gonna go for the rest of this

:

00:48:22,325 --> 00:48:22,565

fucking show.

:

00:48:22,575 --> 00:48:24,365

Chris: So this was the big

problem you had with this movie.

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00:48:24,365 --> 00:48:24,637

Jerome: No.

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00:48:24,637 --> 00:48:26,355

No, but it was the start.

:

00:48:26,355 --> 00:48:27,405

But it was the start.

:

00:48:27,825 --> 00:48:28,805

It was the start.

:

00:48:29,425 --> 00:48:32,685

It was like, it was like, it

wasn't the knockout punch, but

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00:48:32,685 --> 00:48:34,695

it was the first jab I took.

:

00:48:34,695 --> 00:48:35,055

Right?

:

00:48:35,615 --> 00:48:35,955

Alright.

:

00:48:36,885 --> 00:48:37,685

Midpoint.

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00:48:38,205 --> 00:48:39,445

Midpoint scene.

:

00:48:39,705 --> 00:48:43,525

One hour in, Tim realizes

he loves Mary and proposes.

:

00:48:43,535 --> 00:48:45,205

He has achieved his tangible goal.

:

00:48:45,465 --> 00:48:48,075

He has managed to manipulate

her, I'm sorry, he managed to

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00:48:48,075 --> 00:48:49,325

meet a woman who loves him.

:

00:48:52,125 --> 00:48:53,125

That was not an accident.

:

00:48:53,175 --> 00:48:53,735

Well.

:

00:48:53,855 --> 00:48:54,945

False victory.

:

00:48:55,465 --> 00:48:58,225

Yes, it's a false victory because

now we know that more shits can

:

00:48:58,225 --> 00:48:59,605

eventually hit the fan, right?

:

00:48:59,865 --> 00:49:00,315

Okay.

:

00:49:00,580 --> 00:49:01,970

Because his life isn't perfect now.

:

00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:06,420

He thinks it is because he used his powers

to get the girl, and that was his tangible

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00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:09,060

goal, and the sun sets slowly in the west.

:

00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,210

Okay, bad guys closing in.

:

00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:15,390

Second half of act two is littered

with life issues that Tim sometimes

:

00:49:15,390 --> 00:49:16,880

uses his powers to change.

:

00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,790

It is worth noting at this point that the

times he could have changed things and

:

00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,800

didn't were mostly out of Mary's desires.

:

00:49:25,215 --> 00:49:27,665

He doesn't change the meeting

with the parents, because it's

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00:49:27,675 --> 00:49:30,925

Mary that untimely announces that

they're living together, not Tim.

:

00:49:31,285 --> 00:49:34,845

He doesn't change the wedding,

even though there was a monsoon

:

00:49:34,845 --> 00:49:36,115

during the wedding ceremony.

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00:49:36,685 --> 00:49:40,345

Because Mary says, I wouldn't change

this for the world, I loved it that way.

:

00:49:40,445 --> 00:49:43,805

He even asks her, would you do

it differently if you could?

:

00:49:44,115 --> 00:49:48,065

Because he's like saying, I can go in the

closet, we can do this all over again!

:

00:49:48,455 --> 00:49:50,415

And she says, no, I loved it this way.

:

00:49:50,795 --> 00:49:52,305

So, he doesn't change it.

:

00:49:53,585 --> 00:49:56,575

But he does use his powers to

change things like his best man.

:

00:49:57,065 --> 00:49:57,095

Right?

:

00:49:57,105 --> 00:49:58,465

Yeah, I like that sequence.

:

00:49:58,465 --> 00:49:58,815

That was good.

:

00:49:58,815 --> 00:49:59,815

The best man scene.

:

00:49:59,825 --> 00:50:00,035

Yeah.

:

00:50:00,075 --> 00:50:00,375

Yeah.

:

00:50:00,755 --> 00:50:04,325

Of course that brings us to, we're in Bad

Guys Closing In now, second half of Act 2.

:

00:50:04,435 --> 00:50:06,145

Big Kit Kat's Big Redo.

:

00:50:06,535 --> 00:50:10,795

So Lydia Wilson plays his sister

Kat they call her Kit Kat.

:

00:50:11,335 --> 00:50:12,655

She of course I like her character.

:

00:50:12,735 --> 00:50:17,625

She has a very troubled life with a

very problematic, troublesome boyfriend.

:

00:50:18,155 --> 00:50:20,595

He goes back and saves

her from the accident.

:

00:50:21,225 --> 00:50:24,405

And then from Jimmy, which, of

course, when he gets back, he finds

:

00:50:24,405 --> 00:50:26,055

out his kids are changed, right?

:

00:50:26,055 --> 00:50:26,705

Mm hmm, mm hmm.

:

00:50:27,635 --> 00:50:31,895

By the way, I will say that Mary, as the

voice of reason, pushing Tim closer as the

:

00:50:31,905 --> 00:50:37,555

B story to his spiritual goal, actually

says the quote, If it's gonna be fixed,

:

00:50:37,725 --> 00:50:39,535

she probably needs to do it herself.

:

00:50:39,535 --> 00:50:39,780

Right.

:

00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:40,270

End quote.

:

00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:43,890

That was at the 1 hour 21 minute mark.

:

00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:46,430

A lesson Tim seems to struggle with.

:

00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:47,790

All is lost.

:

00:50:47,790 --> 00:50:49,740

Tim and Mary get the

call that Dad is dying.

:

00:50:50,290 --> 00:50:53,080

By the way, we've skipped over a section.

:

00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:56,900

I'm saving it for the plot

hole angry rant section.

:

00:50:57,660 --> 00:51:01,020

But when he finds out his daughter is now

a son, he has to go back and fix that.

:

00:51:01,250 --> 00:51:02,030

But we'll save that.

:

00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:03,810

Get to that in a minute.

:

00:51:04,550 --> 00:51:05,340

All is lost.

:

00:51:05,350 --> 00:51:07,620

Tim and Mary get the

call that dad is dying.

:

00:51:07,940 --> 00:51:13,350

This is an interesting scene though

because he wants to go back and change.

:

00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:19,400

What happened was while she was trying

on dresses for her big night and Tim

:

00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,630

is trying to tell her, yes, that one's

fine, that one's fine too, whatever.

:

00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:24,050

He's doing the husband thing, right?

:

00:51:24,070 --> 00:51:26,750

Where it's like just pick

a dress and let's go.

:

00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,170

Right.

:

00:51:27,180 --> 00:51:32,390

He's not watching Posey, the daughter,

who is literally destroying The

:

00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:34,970

wife's business papers for that night.

:

00:51:35,650 --> 00:51:39,480

Crayons on him, tearing him

up like a dog almost, right?

:

00:51:40,290 --> 00:51:42,610

They go into the room,

they see the disaster.

:

00:51:42,830 --> 00:51:44,540

He's like, I'll be right back.

:

00:51:44,550 --> 00:51:46,150

He's just gonna go to

the closet and fix it.

:

00:51:46,260 --> 00:51:47,270

She won't let him leave.

:

00:51:47,970 --> 00:51:49,520

She's like, no, you're not going anywhere.

:

00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,645

He's like, Seriously, if you just give

me one second, I can fix all this and

:

00:51:52,645 --> 00:51:54,135

she's like, no, you're not leaving.

:

00:51:54,135 --> 00:51:54,645

You're going to help me.

:

00:51:54,645 --> 00:51:57,225

And he's like, I really, I just need

to walk out of the room for a minute.

:

00:51:59,665 --> 00:52:02,565

So it is a funny scene the way

it's written, but ends badly

:

00:52:02,565 --> 00:52:03,765

though, because the all is lost.

:

00:52:03,765 --> 00:52:05,425

They get the phone call in that moment.

:

00:52:05,525 --> 00:52:05,745

Yeah.

:

00:52:05,765 --> 00:52:07,175

They find out that dad is dying.

:

00:52:08,165 --> 00:52:09,065

Does he even have a name?

:

00:52:09,085 --> 00:52:10,635

I think they just call him

Dad throughout the movie.

:

00:52:10,635 --> 00:52:12,325

I think he's credited as Dad, isn't he?

:

00:52:12,325 --> 00:52:14,149

Chris: Oh, you're right.

:

00:52:14,149 --> 00:52:16,385

His credited name is Dad.

:

00:52:16,395 --> 00:52:18,185

Bill Nye, it says Dad.

:

00:52:19,675 --> 00:52:20,165

Wow.

:

00:52:20,165 --> 00:52:22,205

And

:

00:52:23,685 --> 00:52:24,675

his mom is just

:

00:52:24,745 --> 00:52:25,255

Mum.

:

00:52:25,565 --> 00:52:26,095

Jerome: Mum.

:

00:52:26,275 --> 00:52:27,315

That's what they say in Britain.

:

00:52:27,375 --> 00:52:27,655

Mum.

:

00:52:27,655 --> 00:52:28,605

M U M.

:

00:52:28,605 --> 00:52:32,355

All right, I had to

take another swig there.

:

00:52:33,025 --> 00:52:34,295

All right, Dark Night of the Soul.

:

00:52:34,895 --> 00:52:38,475

Tim and Dad have a heart to heart where

Tim asks them why he didn't fix it.

:

00:52:39,065 --> 00:52:42,615

You know, because that's what fucking

Tim does whenever he sees a problem.

:

00:52:43,105 --> 00:52:44,465

Why didn't you just fix it?

:

00:52:44,825 --> 00:52:49,735

And his dad says at the 1

hour 38 minute mark, quote, I

:

00:52:49,735 --> 00:52:51,225

never said you can fix things.

:

00:52:51,275 --> 00:52:53,055

I specifically never said that.

:

00:52:53,695 --> 00:52:54,145

End quote.

:

00:52:55,815 --> 00:52:57,155

Leading him to his spiritual goal.

:

00:52:58,085 --> 00:52:58,805

Break into three.

:

00:52:58,805 --> 00:53:00,905

Dad tells him how to live

life and how to be happy.

:

00:53:00,905 --> 00:53:01,815

Five point finale.

:

00:53:01,815 --> 00:53:02,495

Here we go.

:

00:53:02,835 --> 00:53:03,765

Gathering the team.

:

00:53:03,775 --> 00:53:05,025

Dad lays out the plan.

:

00:53:05,035 --> 00:53:06,555

Live each day twice.

:

00:53:07,085 --> 00:53:10,615

Once, like everyone else, and

the second time to enjoy it

:

00:53:10,615 --> 00:53:12,055

and savor the moments of life.

:

00:53:12,535 --> 00:53:13,595

Execution of the plan.

:

00:53:13,795 --> 00:53:14,665

Tim does this.

:

00:53:15,095 --> 00:53:18,845

He's living out the days as his father

said, but some days he's not repeating.

:

00:53:19,665 --> 00:53:22,215

He's starting to drift

closer to his spiritual goal.

:

00:53:22,765 --> 00:53:23,745

High tower surprise.

:

00:53:23,745 --> 00:53:24,905

Mary wants another baby.

:

00:53:26,140 --> 00:53:31,180

And per the rules, Tim realizes that, as

he says in the movie, quote, saying yes

:

00:53:31,180 --> 00:53:33,610

to the future meant saying goodbye to dad.

:

00:53:34,070 --> 00:53:38,060

Because once the kid is born, he

can't go back again and see his dad.

:

00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:41,510

Because of the rule that was set

up that changed his daughter Posy

:

00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,930

into a boy in the first place.

:

00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,720

You can't go back prior to your kid

being born, because there's a billion

:

00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:50,210

sperm in you, and for the chance of

that one to hit the same way again is

:

00:53:50,210 --> 00:53:53,430

impossible, and your kid's all fucked

up and they're gonna look different.

:

00:53:54,275 --> 00:53:56,125

Alright, dig down deep.

:

00:53:56,225 --> 00:53:57,365

Doesn't take Tim long.

:

00:53:57,725 --> 00:54:00,305

He immediately gives it no more

thought and says, Let's do it.

:

00:54:01,025 --> 00:54:01,345

Okay?

:

00:54:01,775 --> 00:54:02,995

Execution of the new plan.

:

00:54:02,995 --> 00:54:08,405

Tim is ready to give it all up, But

days before the birth of the child

:

00:54:09,110 --> 00:54:12,820

He goes back to have one more moment

with his dad at the beach, and yet

:

00:54:12,830 --> 00:54:14,360

somehow not screwing anything up.

:

00:54:15,410 --> 00:54:19,190

Climax, Tim reaches his

spiritual goal of realizing not

:

00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,280

to use the time travel at all.

:

00:54:21,810 --> 00:54:25,370

Live life to the fullest and let

it just happen, mistakes and all.

:

00:54:25,370 --> 00:54:29,610

He even says in a quote in the very end of

the film, I almost never use it anymore.

:

00:54:29,610 --> 00:54:30,270

Yeah, he says.

:

00:54:30,410 --> 00:54:31,180

Yep, right?

:

00:54:31,450 --> 00:54:33,680

Closing image, Tim on

his cell phone with Mary.

:

00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,070

They're happy with their

extraordinary life.

:

00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:36,330

Yep.

:

00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:41,010

Alright, let me grab my beer for this.

:

00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:43,670

Here, we're gonna tear the fuck

out of this painting we just made.

:

00:54:45,130 --> 00:54:45,860

Chris: Hold on a minute.

:

00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:49,360

Whatever you're about to say, whatever

you're about to say, I don't think

:

00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:54,500

it takes away with, with, with You

fall in love with these characters.

:

00:54:55,085 --> 00:54:55,765

I really do.

:

00:54:55,795 --> 00:54:59,905

I mean, Bill Nye, I, I freaking

love, I mean, I loved his character.

:

00:54:59,915 --> 00:55:02,645

I loved the uncle, the quirky uncle.

:

00:55:02,655 --> 00:55:04,015

I, I mean, so it's just

:

00:55:04,045 --> 00:55:06,385

Jerome: I loved every character but one.

:

00:55:06,495 --> 00:55:08,515

Chris: Okay, go, I'm gonna

just hand it back to you.

:

00:55:08,525 --> 00:55:10,135

I wanna hear what your gripes are.

:

00:55:10,495 --> 00:55:12,295

Cause I, I don't know.

:

00:55:12,985 --> 00:55:13,285

Alright.

:

00:55:13,395 --> 00:55:14,355

It was a good story.

:

00:55:14,585 --> 00:55:18,145

Jerome: First thing, and again, this

is one of those rare things where I

:

00:55:18,155 --> 00:55:19,875

actually liked the way it was written.

:

00:55:19,935 --> 00:55:20,135

Yeah.

:

00:55:20,135 --> 00:55:23,505

It was written wonderfully, and

directed wonderfully, and like

:

00:55:23,505 --> 00:55:25,170

you said Acted wonderfully.

:

00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,780

My problem has nothing

to do with the structure.

:

00:55:29,260 --> 00:55:30,180

So here we're gonna go.

:

00:55:30,220 --> 00:55:31,560

Notes again on arc.

:

00:55:31,610 --> 00:55:34,170

Tim's tangible goal is to

use his powers to get a girl.

:

00:55:34,210 --> 00:55:36,240

He gets that halfway through the film.

:

00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,890

He gets the girl that he wants.

:

00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:41,280

Tim's spiritual goal is to live

every day as it happens without

:

00:55:41,290 --> 00:55:42,400

having to use his powers.

:

00:55:42,450 --> 00:55:43,790

He achieves that at the end.

:

00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:48,550

Remember that often in scripts, if you

follow the proper structure, the lead

:

00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:51,350

fights that spiritual goal the whole film.

:

00:55:51,710 --> 00:55:53,310

Till they learn the lesson.

:

00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:56,235

This is written Perfectly like that.

:

00:55:56,705 --> 00:56:00,765

He has to learn the lesson and he fights

against it with these wrong way goals.

:

00:56:01,025 --> 00:56:02,455

I can fix this, I can fix that.

:

00:56:02,465 --> 00:56:05,145

It reminded me a lot of that movie

Butterfly Effect with Ashton Kutcher.

:

00:56:05,255 --> 00:56:05,505

Yeah.

:

00:56:05,515 --> 00:56:07,985

Where he keeps trying, oh fuck

man, I went and fixed that.

:

00:56:08,115 --> 00:56:10,065

Now something else is screwed

up, I gotta try to fix that.

:

00:56:10,065 --> 00:56:11,105

And now I gotta fix that.

:

00:56:11,125 --> 00:56:12,975

And it's all these wrong way goals, right?

:

00:56:14,185 --> 00:56:15,795

All right, plot holes and gripes.

:

00:56:17,370 --> 00:56:21,150

Obviously, there are rules with a

movie like this, and breaking of

:

00:56:21,150 --> 00:56:24,540

these rules are generally the problem

and the creator of the plot holes.

:

00:56:24,890 --> 00:56:26,620

The most egregious!

:

00:56:27,105 --> 00:56:32,705

Plot problem, right off the bat, is

that you can only travel back in time.

:

00:56:32,925 --> 00:56:34,795

You cannot go into the future.

:

00:56:34,995 --> 00:56:40,145

However, every time they go

back, THEY COME INTO THE FUTURE!

:

00:56:40,875 --> 00:56:42,625

They break that rule.

:

00:56:43,445 --> 00:56:47,375

Whenever him or his father go back

in time, they come forward in time.

:

00:56:47,565 --> 00:56:50,465

And you, and, wait, wait, wait, I

know you're dying to say, you're

:

00:56:50,475 --> 00:56:51,785

dying to jump in right now.

:

00:56:52,355 --> 00:56:57,630

The argument is, well, you can go

back to where you were, but, If you

:

00:56:57,630 --> 00:57:00,660

go back, there is nowhere you were.

:

00:57:01,220 --> 00:57:03,300

The future does not exist anymore.

:

00:57:03,310 --> 00:57:05,220

Yeah, details.

:

00:57:06,860 --> 00:57:08,360

You can say what I said

in Somewhere in Time.

:

00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,380

It's a movie.

:

00:57:09,390 --> 00:57:10,130

It's a movie.

:

00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:12,780

Okay, so I'll Alright,

alright, listen, listen.

:

00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:13,640

I'll forgive that.

:

00:57:13,870 --> 00:57:14,440

I'll forgive that.

:

00:57:14,790 --> 00:57:15,530

That one's okay.

:

00:57:17,145 --> 00:57:21,405

Worse, at one point, So, now, now we're

starting to get into the real shit.

:

00:57:21,795 --> 00:57:24,545

So, at one point, he takes

his sister back with him.

:

00:57:25,215 --> 00:57:28,085

Only men can go back in their family.

:

00:57:28,215 --> 00:57:31,635

Yet, he takes the sister

simply by holding her hands.

:

00:57:33,395 --> 00:57:34,505

It's a movie.

:

00:57:34,505 --> 00:57:35,665

It's a movie.

:

00:57:35,905 --> 00:57:37,735

Nowhere is that said that that can happen.

:

00:57:37,905 --> 00:57:39,045

But he fucking does it.

:

00:57:39,085 --> 00:57:40,495

He figures out he can.

:

00:57:41,595 --> 00:57:45,055

Okay, what happened to the

men in the family only stuff?

:

00:57:45,595 --> 00:57:49,155

Here's worse, when they come back, again

these start to pile on top of each other.

:

00:57:49,595 --> 00:57:54,085

When they come back, all her new

memories, including hooking up with

:

00:57:54,085 --> 00:57:56,415

Jay, are flooded into her head.

:

00:57:56,910 --> 00:57:58,230

But not Tim's.

:

00:57:59,020 --> 00:57:59,500

Why not?

:

00:57:59,780 --> 00:58:02,060

Didn't he relive that whole life too?

:

00:58:02,990 --> 00:58:04,450

And yet he's like, Jay?

:

00:58:04,450 --> 00:58:05,910

She's like, yeah, I'm with Jay now.

:

00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:06,990

And he's like, Jay?

:

00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:11,160

Fucker, if she relived it

all, you would have too.

:

00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,890

Chris: Yeah, that's a, that's a hole.

:

00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:15,480

I'll concede that one.

:

00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:20,610

But they're so enjoyable!

:

00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:22,100

You're so lovable, you don't care!

:

00:58:22,110 --> 00:58:24,320

Jerome: Wait a second, we're not done yet.

:

00:58:24,530 --> 00:58:26,570

We're only scratching

the balls on this one.

:

00:58:26,570 --> 00:58:28,070

Just look the other way.

:

00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,585

Since we're talking about plot

holes Let's talk about how, when,

:

00:58:34,015 --> 00:58:37,425

How about when he gets back and

finds out that he now has a son.

:

00:58:37,435 --> 00:58:39,395

Posey is now a son

instead of his daughter.

:

00:58:39,745 --> 00:58:43,545

Terrified, he gets the info from his

dad that going back before the child

:

00:58:43,775 --> 00:58:47,395

is born, before the birth of the

child, would mess things up because

:

00:58:47,395 --> 00:58:50,405

there's different sperm and you got a

billion sperm and well, you can't do

:

00:58:50,435 --> 00:58:51,895

everything, can't be perfect the same way.

:

00:58:52,145 --> 00:58:53,605

Can't be perfect the same way twice.

:

00:58:53,945 --> 00:58:55,305

He goes back to fix it.

:

00:58:56,425 --> 00:58:58,305

How can he fix it?

:

00:58:59,050 --> 00:59:00,920

How is it gonna be Posey by fixing it?

:

00:59:00,940 --> 00:59:05,810

If he goes back and lets Cat hook up with

Jimmy, he has still altered his sperm.

:

00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:11,440

If he goes back to when he has the

idea to take Cat back, that moment in

:

00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,690

time is already lost and gone forever.

:

00:59:13,830 --> 00:59:15,040

It's already been redone.

:

00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,590

So how does he fix it?

:

00:59:17,050 --> 00:59:17,610

We don't know!

:

00:59:18,380 --> 00:59:22,690

He just goes back, and when he

comes forward, Posey's a girl again!

:

00:59:22,730 --> 00:59:23,050

It's a movie.

:

00:59:23,050 --> 00:59:23,610

What the

:

00:59:23,740 --> 00:59:24,090

fuck?

:

00:59:24,170 --> 00:59:24,880

It's a movie.

:

00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,910

So here's what I thought in that scene.

:

00:59:27,220 --> 00:59:28,740

I'm like, hey, Bill Nye!

:

00:59:29,535 --> 00:59:32,605

This would have been very valuable

information when your son started

:

00:59:32,615 --> 00:59:34,615

having children, you know,

:

00:59:34,695 --> 00:59:35,795

time to have a talk.

:

00:59:35,875 --> 00:59:36,975

Yeah, and what does Bill Nye say?

:

00:59:36,995 --> 00:59:37,835

What does Dad say?

:

00:59:37,895 --> 00:59:39,125

Oh, I forgot to tell you.

:

00:59:39,625 --> 00:59:40,085

What?

:

00:59:40,085 --> 00:59:42,525

What?

:

00:59:43,505 --> 00:59:46,325

That's like a chick having sex with

a dude and she's got AIDS and she's

:

00:59:46,325 --> 00:59:48,135

like, oh, yeah, I forgot to tell

:

00:59:48,135 --> 00:59:48,315

Chris: you.

:

00:59:48,695 --> 00:59:50,195

That's, that's extreme.

:

00:59:52,105 --> 00:59:57,215

Jerome: Well, in reality, if this was

reality, Posey would be gone forever.

:

00:59:57,605 --> 00:59:58,735

That's extreme.

:

00:59:58,795 --> 00:59:59,275

Mm hmm.

:

00:59:59,375 --> 00:59:59,735

Right?

:

01:00:00,705 --> 01:00:06,225

Alright, which brings us to the ending,

which takes a sledgehammer to everything

:

01:00:06,225 --> 01:00:08,165

we've talked about for two hours now.

:

01:00:09,015 --> 01:00:13,745

They travel back to when Tim was a

child, and they spend time on the beach.

:

01:00:14,325 --> 01:00:16,205

Talk about altering sperm!

:

01:00:16,685 --> 01:00:21,900

They try to cover it up by saying, quote,

If we're careful, we should be okay.

:

01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:23,460

Careful with what?

:

01:00:24,940 --> 01:00:25,920

I don't understand.

:

01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,690

Time is still moving forward.

:

01:00:27,710 --> 01:00:28,970

It's actively moving.

:

01:00:29,210 --> 01:00:33,170

There are a billion sperm running

free every time you blow your load.

:

01:00:33,340 --> 01:00:37,900

Even if you try to match everything

perfectly, it's gonna be different sperm.

:

01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,420

And thus, a different child.

:

01:00:40,790 --> 01:00:43,770

Just going back to see his dad

again, his kids would be different.

:

01:00:43,870 --> 01:00:45,160

Ultra different forever.

:

01:00:45,965 --> 01:00:47,635

Now to the part where I get angry.

:

01:00:47,635 --> 01:00:49,965

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

:

01:00:51,145 --> 01:00:52,365

Here's my hot take.

:

01:00:53,435 --> 01:00:56,275

I told you, I loved every

character in this film but one.

:

01:00:57,645 --> 01:01:00,255

Tim, is an unlikable person.

:

01:01:00,545 --> 01:01:01,475

Really?

:

01:01:01,895 --> 01:01:02,645

Absolutely.

:

01:01:03,245 --> 01:01:04,945

I even wrote here, this is my hot take.

:

01:01:06,545 --> 01:01:08,265

I can take all the plotholes you got.

:

01:01:09,485 --> 01:01:11,015

As you said, it's a movie.

:

01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:20,130

What is unforgivable, to me, is

what a controlling asshole he is.

:

01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,180

And a pretty dumb for

a lawyer if you ask me.

:

01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:26,160

Okay?

:

01:01:26,450 --> 01:01:31,870

Because he's shocked to see that Mary's

number is missing from his phone when he

:

01:01:31,870 --> 01:01:33,990

changes Harry's play at the beginning.

:

01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:34,820

What?

:

01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:36,420

Mary's number's not in here?

:

01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:37,780

Why wouldn't it be?

:

01:01:38,030 --> 01:01:39,920

Because you fucking erased it!

:

01:01:40,380 --> 01:01:42,880

It doesn't happen now,

you changed that reality.

:

01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:45,860

And then when he realizes

that, Oh, that's right.

:

01:01:46,050 --> 01:01:47,830

We didn't meet at the dark restaurant.

:

01:01:47,930 --> 01:01:53,320

Well now I have to stalk her,

almost literally, And come up with

:

01:01:53,370 --> 01:01:56,170

bullshit that I don't even believe

in, but I know that she does.

:

01:01:56,510 --> 01:02:00,720

So I say it to manipulate her

and control her into liking me.

:

01:02:01,070 --> 01:02:04,360

Then he's shocked when he taps her on the

shoulder and she has no idea who he is.

:

01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,760

He's like, Hey!

:

01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,820

Chris: It's like he was

basically doing the Groundhog

:

01:02:07,820 --> 01:02:09,050

Day thing that Bill Murray did.

:

01:02:09,060 --> 01:02:09,300

Jerome: Right!

:

01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:10,560

Right!

:

01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:12,050

And I mention that in here too.

:

01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,650

But he taps her on the

shoulder and she's like, Hi.

:

01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:16,710

And he's like, Hey!

:

01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,180

And she's like, I don't know who you are.

:

01:02:18,550 --> 01:02:20,340

And he's, again, he's shocked.

:

01:02:20,370 --> 01:02:22,300

He's like, How does she not know me?

:

01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:23,720

Are you fucking stupid?

:

01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:26,420

You erased the time that you guys met.

:

01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,310

It didn't exist anymore.

:

01:02:29,630 --> 01:02:31,040

So for a lawyer, he's pretty dumb.

:

01:02:31,740 --> 01:02:33,100

But the worst thing is basically

:

01:02:33,110 --> 01:02:36,410

Chris: Oh, they do have to wear

those wigs over there, so Yeah,

:

01:02:36,410 --> 01:02:37,730

Jerome: that's, that's true.

:

01:02:37,830 --> 01:02:38,240

That's true.

:

01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:42,940

The worst thing is basically the

cloud that hangs over the entire film.

:

01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,240

He's a manipulator.

:

01:02:44,980 --> 01:02:46,920

He gets married disingenuously.

:

01:02:47,355 --> 01:02:51,325

The director, Richard Curtis, tries

to solve this by setting up the whole,

:

01:02:51,615 --> 01:02:55,425

Well, they kind of fell for each other

at the dark restaurant to begin with.

:

01:02:55,425 --> 01:02:55,875

No.

:

01:02:55,875 --> 01:02:57,045

No, no, no, no, no.

:

01:02:57,475 --> 01:03:00,025

She was interested in him

after the dark restaurant.

:

01:03:00,095 --> 01:03:02,585

It takes a lot for somebody

to fall in love with you and

:

01:03:02,585 --> 01:03:04,085

want to have your fucking kids.

:

01:03:04,585 --> 01:03:05,035

Okay?

:

01:03:05,465 --> 01:03:06,625

That takes a lot.

:

01:03:06,965 --> 01:03:10,305

And he manipulates her

every chance he gets.

:

01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:15,210

From the restaurant scene on she

gets there eventually because

:

01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,210

Tim can redo whatever he wants.

:

01:03:17,210 --> 01:03:20,560

To her, he's the perfect man

who's never made a mistake.

:

01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,680

Chris: Wow, you could really,

you could really create a new

:

01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,040

trailer with him being the stalker.

:

01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:25,890

Jerome: Think about this.

:

01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,310

His entire marriage is deceitful.

:

01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:33,000

If he spills grape juice on the

couch, he can redo it to where

:

01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,100

he didn't spill grape juice.

:

01:03:34,645 --> 01:03:34,985

Right?

:

01:03:35,075 --> 01:03:37,705

If they get in an argument

where he says mean things, he

:

01:03:37,705 --> 01:03:38,925

can redo it to where he didn't.

:

01:03:39,145 --> 01:03:43,255

In her eyes, he's the perfect fucking

husband who's never made a mistake.

:

01:03:43,525 --> 01:03:44,915

None of us get that shit!

:

01:03:45,905 --> 01:03:47,365

We have to make mistakes.

:

01:03:47,625 --> 01:03:48,975

That's how relationships work.

:

01:03:48,985 --> 01:03:50,125

Wait, I'm not done yet.

:

01:03:50,155 --> 01:03:51,985

Chris: I hear a hint of jealousy.

:

01:03:52,155 --> 01:03:54,695

Jerome: That's, yeah,

fuck yeah, I'm jealous!

:

01:03:54,695 --> 01:03:55,875

That's not a hint!

:

01:03:56,235 --> 01:03:58,420

That's a goddamn sledgehammering!

:

01:03:59,090 --> 01:04:00,490

Of course I'm jealous!

:

01:04:01,060 --> 01:04:03,480

This motherfucker, and I'll

tell you something else.

:

01:04:03,890 --> 01:04:06,690

We're supposed to feel sorry

for this asshole at the end?

:

01:04:07,070 --> 01:04:07,490

What?

:

01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,200

My wife wants to have another

baby, I'll never see my dad again?

:

01:04:10,220 --> 01:04:11,980

That's all of us, you fucking prick!

:

01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:16,190

We, all of us, all of us have to

say goodbye to our father someday,

:

01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,770

and we never get to see him again.

:

01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:19,700

And we're supposed to feel sorry for you?

:

01:04:20,190 --> 01:04:23,390

Because now you can't go back in time

whenever you want and spend time with him?

:

01:04:23,570 --> 01:04:24,250

Fuck you!

:

01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:26,210

That's the rest of the world.

:

01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,080

We all have to deal with that.

:

01:04:28,850 --> 01:04:32,130

I was not sucked in by that as

any sort of emotional moment.

:

01:04:32,260 --> 01:04:36,610

In fact, I remember yelling at

the TV, Grow the fuck up, asshole!

:

01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,460

That's what we all have to do.

:

01:04:38,620 --> 01:04:40,930

We all have to say goodbye to our dad.

:

01:04:41,110 --> 01:04:42,510

Not you, apparently.

:

01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:43,670

You're fucking special.

:

01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:44,740

Chris: Well, no, he did.

:

01:04:44,830 --> 01:04:45,890

He did have to.

:

01:04:46,220 --> 01:04:47,029

Jerome: Oh, yeah, sure.

:

01:04:47,230 --> 01:04:48,770

Chris: Well, and here's the thing.

:

01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:55,560

I think it, it did its job because it

pulled an emotional response out of you.

:

01:04:57,390 --> 01:04:58,630

Jerome: Oh, yeah, it did.

:

01:04:58,650 --> 01:04:58,930

It did!

:

01:04:59,010 --> 01:05:00,880

But not the one he was looking for.

:

01:05:01,170 --> 01:05:03,140

Well, I mean Not the one

Curtis was looking for.

:

01:05:03,330 --> 01:05:07,940

It made me think a lot about You've

Got Mail, which is another film that

:

01:05:07,940 --> 01:05:12,140

gets me fired up that I can't believe

a woman even wrote that movie, let

:

01:05:12,140 --> 01:05:13,890

alone that women like that movie.

:

01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,890

Halfway through that movie, Tom

Hanks finds out it's Meg Ryan.

:

01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:17,410

Yeah, yeah.

:

01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:19,970

And he then manipulates her for

the whole rest of the movie!

:

01:05:20,010 --> 01:05:20,610

Yeah, you're right.

:

01:05:20,610 --> 01:05:21,480

And she falls for it!

:

01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:22,520

Yeah, I didn't even think about that.

:

01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:23,033

She falls for

:

01:05:23,033 --> 01:05:23,205

it!

:

01:05:23,925 --> 01:05:25,895

I'm gonna be drunk by the end of this.

:

01:05:25,895 --> 01:05:27,725

And women love that movie.

:

01:05:28,185 --> 01:05:30,205

And I'm sure women love About Time.

:

01:05:31,385 --> 01:05:36,165

I mean, again, I even mentioned

Tim wields his power the way Bill

:

01:05:36,165 --> 01:05:37,585

Murray does in Groundhog Day.

:

01:05:38,635 --> 01:05:39,815

But here's the difference.

:

01:05:41,135 --> 01:05:44,710

Bill Murray realizes that

none of that shit matters.

:

01:05:44,940 --> 01:05:45,279

Yeah.

:

01:05:45,500 --> 01:05:47,140

Chris: He has, he has, he learns

:

01:05:47,140 --> 01:05:47,850

Jerome: his lesson.

:

01:05:48,410 --> 01:05:52,190

He learns his lesson, and again, Tim

learns that you should let life happen.

:

01:05:52,190 --> 01:05:52,690

I get that.

:

01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:53,900

That's his spiritual goal.

:

01:05:54,270 --> 01:05:58,570

But, Bill Murray doesn't use any of

the shit he learned to manipulate

:

01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,040

Andy McDowell's character at the

:

01:06:00,150 --> 01:06:00,410

Chris: end.

:

01:06:00,420 --> 01:06:01,560

Not Andy McDowell.

:

01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:02,790

All the other girlfriends.

:

01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:03,930

Jerome: No, no, no.

:

01:06:03,950 --> 01:06:04,760

At the end of the movie, though.

:

01:06:04,970 --> 01:06:08,029

At the end of the movie, he's

only focused on bettering himself.

:

01:06:08,460 --> 01:06:10,390

He's not using all those tricks anymore.

:

01:06:10,490 --> 01:06:11,720

He grew past all that.

:

01:06:13,175 --> 01:06:16,295

But Tim is still in a

marriage he did not earn.

:

01:06:17,075 --> 01:06:18,735

He did not earn this marriage.

:

01:06:18,975 --> 01:06:23,525

Chris: And honestly, my biggest

problem is that he's got a major

:

01:06:23,525 --> 01:06:25,845

secret that he's kept from his wife.

:

01:06:25,995 --> 01:06:27,265

Jerome: He's never told his wife.

:

01:06:27,275 --> 01:06:30,215

He'd tell his fucking sister,

but he won't tell his wife?

:

01:06:30,225 --> 01:06:30,895

Chris: Yeah, that's

:

01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,180

Jerome: He redoes their first sexual

encounter together so that he can

:

01:06:36,180 --> 01:06:37,600

do it as many times as he'd like.

:

01:06:37,710 --> 01:06:38,980

Self gratification.

:

01:06:39,220 --> 01:06:42,200

Now the only justification is

that at the end, when he's finally

:

01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,480

satisfied, When he finally did it

right, She says, You're done already?

:

01:06:46,750 --> 01:06:47,890

Yeah, I thought that was funny.

:

01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:51,080

And he's thinking, Fuck man,

I've already nailed you five

:

01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,820

times and you don't even know it!

:

01:06:53,150 --> 01:06:55,560

Which is borderline rape if you ask me!

:

01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:57,890

Alright, alright, I went too far there.

:

01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:58,600

I went too far.

:

01:06:58,910 --> 01:06:59,720

I went too far.

:

01:07:00,180 --> 01:07:03,450

Alright and I also mentioned again,

I'm also not buying that he didn't

:

01:07:03,460 --> 01:07:04,870

nail Charlotte when he had the chance.

:

01:07:05,410 --> 01:07:07,570

Knowing he has the power to go

back and take it back, he would

:

01:07:07,570 --> 01:07:11,560

have smashed her ten times before

going back and changing it all.

:

01:07:12,350 --> 01:07:13,110

But, whatever.

:

01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:14,060

I'm not buying it.

:

01:07:14,110 --> 01:07:14,830

I'm not buying it.

:

01:07:15,410 --> 01:07:18,880

Eh, eh, yeah, okay, and then at the

end I go off on my whole thing about

:

01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,370

that he has to say goodbye to his dad.

:

01:07:20,370 --> 01:07:21,620

Something we all have to do as people.

:

01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,210

Tim, piss me off!

:

01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:30,330

And obviously and again the underlying the

underlying theme the underlying nature I

:

01:07:30,420 --> 01:07:35,730

guess I should say not the theme but the

underlying nature that he is almost god

:

01:07:35,730 --> 01:07:38,290

like in the fact that he can do no wrong.

:

01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:40,150

He can fix any mistake.

:

01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,870

He can fix any problem.

:

01:07:41,970 --> 01:07:42,380

Right?

:

01:07:42,380 --> 01:07:42,910

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

01:07:43,170 --> 01:07:43,590

Anything.

:

01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,200

And like I said, you've had

arguments with your wife.

:

01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:46,920

I've had arguments with my wife.

:

01:07:47,050 --> 01:07:48,350

Everybody has arguments with their wife.

:

01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,200

He can always go back and make it

so that argument never happened.

:

01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:53,150

In her eyes, he is perfect.

:

01:07:53,790 --> 01:07:55,060

That's not reality.

:

01:07:55,090 --> 01:07:55,279

Yeah.

:

01:07:55,279 --> 01:07:57,960

And that's a marriage based on deceit.

:

01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,880

And we never fix it.

:

01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:03,110

They're still together at the end.

:

01:08:03,310 --> 01:08:04,610

Oh, because they love each other.

:

01:08:04,620 --> 01:08:06,420

How do we know Mary really loves him?

:

01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:10,210

She loves an idea that's been

manipulated in her head, like

:

01:08:10,210 --> 01:08:12,070

fucking Leo in that movie Inception.

:

01:08:12,330 --> 01:08:14,880

Chris: I think they should do

a remake, or a uh, a sequel.

:

01:08:15,630 --> 01:08:16,560

Jerome: They should do a sequel.

:

01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:18,649

Where he divorces her and says we

need to start all over because I've

:

01:08:18,649 --> 01:08:20,930

been fucking dis Where he comes clean.

:

01:08:21,715 --> 01:08:22,385

He comes clean.

:

01:08:22,814 --> 01:08:23,165

Alright.

:

01:08:24,115 --> 01:08:25,194

Alright, things I liked.

:

01:08:25,194 --> 01:08:27,024

I already talked about Tom

Hollander as the roommate.

:

01:08:27,035 --> 01:08:28,615

He does steal the show.

:

01:08:28,645 --> 01:08:29,734

He is my favorite character.

:

01:08:30,165 --> 01:08:33,115

The other things I liked is

the soundtrack is fantastic.

:

01:08:33,145 --> 01:08:34,265

Yeah, yeah.

:

01:08:34,354 --> 01:08:36,045

God, it's such a great soundtrack.

:

01:08:36,075 --> 01:08:37,354

Not just the movie soundtrack.

:

01:08:37,585 --> 01:08:39,404

Chris: Who sang that song at the end?

:

01:08:39,495 --> 01:08:39,684

Jerome: I'm gonna look it up.

:

01:08:39,684 --> 01:08:41,245

Not just the score, though.

:

01:08:41,505 --> 01:08:43,365

It's littered with really good songs, too.

:

01:08:43,365 --> 01:08:46,585

Chris: Yeah, well, there was a

song at the end that was just

:

01:08:46,595 --> 01:08:49,765

perfect for the, for the Movie.

:

01:08:51,975 --> 01:08:52,665

Jerome: I can't remember name.

:

01:08:52,694 --> 01:08:54,345

I know if you have to look

that while you're looking that

:

01:08:54,345 --> 01:08:55,365

up, I'll give you a side note.

:

01:08:55,815 --> 01:08:57,765

Domhnall Gleason, I don't

know if you know this.

:

01:08:57,944 --> 01:08:59,865

He is the son of Brendan Gleason.

:

01:09:00,815 --> 01:09:02,225

You know who Brendan Gleason is, right?

:

01:09:02,875 --> 01:09:03,145

Yeah.

:

01:09:03,145 --> 01:09:03,535

You do.

:

01:09:03,565 --> 01:09:07,015

He's the big redhead, huge dude

in Braveheart gangs in New York.

:

01:09:07,165 --> 01:09:07,765

Oh really?

:

01:09:07,795 --> 01:09:07,854

Wow.

:

01:09:07,975 --> 01:09:08,575

Troy?

:

01:09:08,904 --> 01:09:11,465

Troy, he's in, in Troy in Bruge.

:

01:09:11,895 --> 01:09:14,684

Yeah, so yeah, that's his son.

:

01:09:15,015 --> 01:09:15,404

Of course.

:

01:09:15,404 --> 01:09:16,154

Another ginger.

:

01:09:16,220 --> 01:09:19,440

They look a lot alike.

:

01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:23,180

So, again, while you're looking

that up, let me just tell the

:

01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:29,779

audience, listener again, for script

structure, it's written very well.

:

01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:31,720

It's directed very well.

:

01:09:31,729 --> 01:09:33,140

It's acted very well.

:

01:09:33,550 --> 01:09:37,040

It's got a great sort of

screenplay in which you can

:

01:09:37,050 --> 01:09:38,410

learn from if you're a writer.

:

01:09:39,740 --> 01:09:41,430

Reaching your spiritual goal at the end.

:

01:09:41,630 --> 01:09:45,559

Somewhere in time as well, as we dictated

in Somewhere in Time, the way the whole

:

01:09:45,559 --> 01:09:50,520

second act is that positive and negative

emotional shifts that we talked about,

:

01:09:50,890 --> 01:09:52,850

those are important writing lessons.

:

01:09:53,835 --> 01:09:55,865

That's how you keep your

script from being boring.

:

01:09:56,275 --> 01:10:00,105

If you're like, man, I know how I want

it to start, and I know how I want

:

01:10:00,105 --> 01:10:04,035

it to end, but fuck, I got this whole

middle part I'm having trouble with.

:

01:10:04,245 --> 01:10:05,605

Emotional chefs, man.

:

01:10:05,885 --> 01:10:06,775

Positive, negative.

:

01:10:06,795 --> 01:10:07,565

Positive, negative.

:

01:10:07,565 --> 01:10:08,675

Watch Thelma and Louise.

:

01:10:08,675 --> 01:10:09,285

Same thing.

:

01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:13,600

One scene, they're one thing, driving

them towards the spiritual goal.

:

01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,530

The next scene, it's pulling them back.

:

01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,630

And then they go forward, and

then they get pulled back.

:

01:10:19,650 --> 01:10:21,600

And then they go forward, and

then they get pulled back.

:

01:10:21,730 --> 01:10:23,890

You keep doing that through

your whole second act, you're

:

01:10:23,890 --> 01:10:25,020

going to create tension.

:

01:10:25,460 --> 01:10:29,700

And you're going to create way more

interest in your story development.

:

01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:33,360

And your character is slowly but

surely reaching their spiritual goal.

:

01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:36,450

Because the lessons going

forward are stronger every time.

:

01:10:38,690 --> 01:10:41,680

So, both of these films

had great script structure.

:

01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,870

My issue with About Time is solely

with that, sort of that cloud that

:

01:10:45,870 --> 01:10:50,210

just hung over it where I just felt

that Tim manipulated everything

:

01:10:50,210 --> 01:10:51,690

that was worthwhile in his life.

:

01:10:52,340 --> 01:10:56,930

And I got emotionally angry at the

end when it came to the dad thing.

:

01:10:56,940 --> 01:11:00,660

I'm like, you know, our dad

is still alive, thank God.

:

01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,300

He's not going to be forever.

:

01:11:03,345 --> 01:11:07,115

And, and that I have to feel

emotionally sad for Tim because

:

01:11:07,115 --> 01:11:08,175

he has to make a decision?

:

01:11:08,315 --> 01:11:13,325

Chris: Well, I think what the movie did

for me is it made you So for the, for

:

01:11:13,325 --> 01:11:19,035

the, you know, the average watcher of this

movie, everybody, no one has the ability

:

01:11:19,035 --> 01:11:21,075

to change time, to go back in time.

:

01:11:21,355 --> 01:11:21,565

Correct.

:

01:11:21,565 --> 01:11:27,020

So the message is, to me Take

hold of every moment, you know,

:

01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:28,510

make the most of every moment.

:

01:11:28,650 --> 01:11:29,160

Spiritual goal.

:

01:11:29,210 --> 01:11:31,160

Yeah, make the most of every moment.

:

01:11:31,340 --> 01:11:35,860

So that's why, for me, it

ends on this feel good idea.

:

01:11:36,540 --> 01:11:37,390

Take a hold of it.

:

01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:38,740

Jerome: But he's still married.

:

01:11:39,410 --> 01:11:44,580

He's still married to Mary, and it's

still, to me, is a sham wedding.

:

01:11:44,740 --> 01:11:45,670

It's a sham marriage.

:

01:11:46,275 --> 01:11:48,525

Because she has no idea who Tim really is.

:

01:11:49,005 --> 01:11:51,345

She only knows the Tim that

he's allowed her to see.

:

01:11:51,395 --> 01:11:51,745

Hey, I'll

:

01:11:51,745 --> 01:11:52,625

Chris: give you that, man.

:

01:11:52,625 --> 01:11:54,395

I can't, I can't argue with that.

:

01:11:55,835 --> 01:11:57,075

Jerome: But it's a movie!

:

01:11:57,535 --> 01:11:58,305

Oh, here we go.

:

01:11:58,415 --> 01:11:58,705

Fuck.

:

01:11:58,965 --> 01:12:01,805

You didn't say that was Somewhere in

Time, but you're saying it for this one.

:

01:12:01,815 --> 01:12:03,675

Chris: Well, at least it

wasn't two dimensional.

:

01:12:05,015 --> 01:12:10,515

Jerome: But see, and again, we talked

about how complex is About Time compared

:

01:12:10,515 --> 01:12:12,605

to how simple Somewhere in Time is, right?

:

01:12:12,815 --> 01:12:13,825

Like, it's very, very simple.

:

01:12:13,915 --> 01:12:15,515

One of them has very few rules.

:

01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,240

You hypnotize yourself, and you're fucking

there, and that's it, until you wake up.

:

01:12:20,730 --> 01:12:23,390

This one is like, my god,

you can't do this, you can't

:

01:12:23,390 --> 01:12:24,360

do that, you gotta do this.

:

01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:28,970

Chris: Yeah, no re dos, you gotta, you

gotta go to town on her all night long.

:

01:12:28,980 --> 01:12:34,590

Jerome: Yeah, I mean, it was like, it

was like basically, yeah, and about time

:

01:12:34,590 --> 01:12:37,200

is filled with, you almost think Doc

Brown's gonna show up with the DeLorean,

:

01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,600

you know, like, Ah, let's go back, you

know, like, it's just so complex, with

:

01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,350

all the rules and shit, but anyway.

:

01:12:44,440 --> 01:12:44,910

Yeah.

:

01:12:45,575 --> 01:12:46,555

So did you find the song?

:

01:12:47,375 --> 01:12:47,645

Hold on.

:

01:12:47,645 --> 01:12:49,255

I'm going to pull up the soundtrack.

:

01:12:49,275 --> 01:12:53,835

The song I pulled up was actually

the the the instrumental song.

:

01:12:53,845 --> 01:12:56,695

That's beautiful and it's

just called About Time.

:

01:12:57,125 --> 01:12:59,225

The score, The score for the movie.

:

01:12:59,225 --> 01:12:59,735

Yeah.

:

01:13:00,155 --> 01:13:01,184

Who wrote this?

:

01:13:01,425 --> 01:13:02,575

By various artists.

:

01:13:02,595 --> 01:13:03,195

Okay.

:

01:13:04,005 --> 01:13:04,665

Thanks.

:

01:13:08,365 --> 01:13:08,895

Oh, wow.

:

01:13:08,934 --> 01:13:09,515

So

:

01:13:11,745 --> 01:13:16,100

Chris: the album featured sections

from The Cure The Killers.

:

01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:16,160

Yeah.

:

01:13:16,575 --> 01:13:18,559

Uhhuh , Ellie Gold, Golding.

:

01:13:18,770 --> 01:13:20,090

Amy Winehouse.

:

01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:21,420

Ellie Golding.

:

01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:22,525

Ellie Golding, sugar Babes.

:

01:13:23,755 --> 01:13:25,405

Nick Cave and Ben Fos.

:

01:13:26,125 --> 01:13:26,245

Mm-Hmm.

:

01:13:26,731 --> 01:13:27,505

The Luckiest.

:

01:13:27,505 --> 01:13:29,035

That's the song I was thinking of.

:

01:13:29,215 --> 01:13:30,145

The luckiest.

:

01:13:30,265 --> 01:13:30,325

Oh, okay.

:

01:13:30,725 --> 01:13:31,985

So that was Ben Fos.

:

01:13:31,985 --> 01:13:32,045

Yeah.

:

01:13:32,135 --> 01:13:32,795

The Luckiest.

:

01:13:32,795 --> 01:13:33,725

That was a good song.

:

01:13:33,725 --> 01:13:33,785

Yeah.

:

01:13:33,995 --> 01:13:38,850

So I, I might put a link to the soundtrack

or something in the, in the show notes.

:

01:13:39,010 --> 01:13:42,945

'cause in the show notes I, I'll get in

trouble by YouTube if I play music on

:

01:13:42,945 --> 01:13:43,695

here, so.

:

01:13:43,725 --> 01:13:44,055

Jerome: Yeah.

:

01:13:44,055 --> 01:13:46,335

No, I mean, and again, great soundtrack.

:

01:13:46,365 --> 01:13:50,565

It, it's, overall, it's a,

it's a very well made film.

:

01:13:51,545 --> 01:13:55,095

But I think that there was, and I,

and for a while I thought I was alone.

:

01:13:55,695 --> 01:13:58,245

So I like went on Reddit, and

I looked up old shit, like am I

:

01:13:58,245 --> 01:13:59,765

the only one with these problems?

:

01:13:59,995 --> 01:14:03,465

And there were other people popping

up with like, Oh, this is bullshit!

:

01:14:03,505 --> 01:14:06,455

It's changing her, it's manipulating

her the whole time or whatever.

:

01:14:06,455 --> 01:14:08,755

And I'm like, so I'm not the

only one that's seeing that.

:

01:14:08,765 --> 01:14:13,535

Chris: So as a screenwriter, how

would you have fixed the problem?

:

01:14:13,625 --> 01:14:15,395

The biggest glaring problem.

:

01:14:15,505 --> 01:14:18,955

Jerome: He's I'll tell you, actually,

ironically, who does it right.

:

01:14:19,635 --> 01:14:21,335

The butterfly effect with Ashton Kutcher.

:

01:14:22,205 --> 01:14:26,105

He ends up realizing at the

end, that he's gotta go all

:

01:14:26,125 --> 01:14:27,195

the way back to the beginning.

:

01:14:28,035 --> 01:14:30,955

And change it all and let life happen.

:

01:14:30,955 --> 01:14:34,985

So what he does, I don't know if you've

ever seen that film, but it's, it's,

:

01:14:35,005 --> 01:14:36,605

Chris: it was right

after it came on video.

:

01:14:36,605 --> 01:14:37,975

I think it's been a long time.

:

01:14:38,095 --> 01:14:40,155

Jerome: God, for the life of me,

I can't remember the girl's name.

:

01:14:40,184 --> 01:14:41,485

Is it Amy Smart?

:

01:14:41,665 --> 01:14:42,175

Is that it?

:

01:14:42,325 --> 01:14:44,695

Who's the female lead anyway.

:

01:14:45,125 --> 01:14:47,835

They have these problems throughout

the film where he keeps trying to fix

:

01:14:47,835 --> 01:14:49,184

things, and he's only making it worse.

:

01:14:49,365 --> 01:14:53,825

He goes back to when they're kids, and

he walks up to her as a kid, and he

:

01:14:53,825 --> 01:14:56,625

tells her something like, If you ever

fucking come near me again, I'll kill you.

:

01:14:56,745 --> 01:14:59,565

And she runs off, scared, and

avoids him for the rest of her life.

:

01:14:59,875 --> 01:15:01,875

And he saved her life that way.

:

01:15:02,235 --> 01:15:04,165

Because he was no longer fucking with her.

:

01:15:04,184 --> 01:15:08,145

And then at the end of the movie, they

see each other in New York City, just

:

01:15:08,145 --> 01:15:11,965

sort of passing on the sidewalk, and

he smiles, like, and she kind of looks

:

01:15:11,965 --> 01:15:13,925

at him, kind of like, Do I know you?

:

01:15:15,145 --> 01:15:16,995

I feel like I know you.

:

01:15:16,995 --> 01:15:21,055

But he's smiling because he knows

like, Now maybe we can start over.

:

01:15:21,225 --> 01:15:22,795

Maybe we can do it for real.

:

01:15:22,945 --> 01:15:24,934

And let life just happen this way.

:

01:15:24,945 --> 01:15:29,585

Like he changed, he fixed

everything by redoing everything.

:

01:15:29,745 --> 01:15:31,555

Now that's the theatrical ending.

:

01:15:31,595 --> 01:15:35,290

I was told that there's a Or

no, maybe that was the, the

:

01:15:35,300 --> 01:15:36,640

change, the alternate ending.

:

01:15:36,910 --> 01:15:39,220

There was an original ending,

I think, where he goes all the

:

01:15:39,220 --> 01:15:42,880

way back to when he's a child in

the womb, and he kills himself.

:

01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:43,420

Oh, yeah.

:

01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:46,480

He, he wraps the umbilical

cord around his head and dies.

:

01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:51,410

A little dramatic, audiences hated it,

so they changed it, the alternate ending,

:

01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:57,940

is that he just changes his relationship

with the girl, and hopes to maybe do it

:

01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,290

right when they meet later as adults.

:

01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,145

Chris: You were asking about the

w Yeah, what's the girl's name?

:

01:16:04,395 --> 01:16:07,235

Yeah, it's Ashton Kutcher and Amy Smart.

:

01:16:07,535 --> 01:16:08,975

Jerome: Amy Smart,

that's what I said, okay.

:

01:16:09,275 --> 01:16:09,815

I had it right.

:

01:16:10,075 --> 01:16:11,385

And she's great in that movie too.

:

01:16:11,675 --> 01:16:14,315

But but that's, that's

how you do it right.

:

01:16:14,485 --> 01:16:14,725

Yeah.

:

01:16:14,735 --> 01:16:17,695

You realize You're not innocent.

:

01:16:18,265 --> 01:16:22,805

So the only way to fix it is to redo

the whole thing and let life happen.

:

01:16:23,035 --> 01:16:25,065

That's the only way for

Tim to redeem himself.

:

01:16:25,285 --> 01:16:27,805

But here's why Tim's a

fucking shitty ass character.

:

01:16:27,934 --> 01:16:30,875

He's not willing to give up his woman

that he fought hard to manipulate.

:

01:16:31,005 --> 01:16:34,485

He's not willing to give up his kids,

obviously, because now he loves his kids.

:

01:16:34,775 --> 01:16:36,585

He's not willing to give up any of that.

:

01:16:36,845 --> 01:16:39,905

Even though, and, and, actually,

no, I'm not even gonna say that.

:

01:16:40,540 --> 01:16:43,480

He doesn't realize he's a manipulator.

:

01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:48,270

He thinks hey, man This is just my gift,

and I'm in a great marriage with great

:

01:16:48,270 --> 01:16:52,710

kids He's not once looked in the mirror

and said oh, this shit's deceitful.

:

01:16:52,770 --> 01:16:57,760

I fucking none of this is real

Yeah, so he doesn't even take the

:

01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,530

responsibility or the accountability

I guess what he's doing is wrong.

:

01:17:01,559 --> 01:17:05,710

Chris: I guess the hard the hard

part about the the butterfly effect

:

01:17:06,305 --> 01:17:13,145

Ending for for this movie if he would

have done that it's hard because it's

:

01:17:13,155 --> 01:17:20,195

in a way You're almost like Erasing

someone that was created, right?

:

01:17:20,245 --> 01:17:24,395

So like his kids would no

longer exist So in a sense, it

:

01:17:24,395 --> 01:17:26,015

feels like you're killing them.

:

01:17:26,305 --> 01:17:31,285

So I can understand the difficulty of

Of trying to do that, but at the very

:

01:17:31,285 --> 01:17:35,755

least, if they could have written some

way where he came clean with his wife,

:

01:17:36,265 --> 01:17:40,255

you know, and, like, vowed to not do

it again or something, I don't know,

:

01:17:40,285 --> 01:17:44,135

I don't know, it's, it's, but that's

not as clean, but that's not as clean

:

01:17:44,135 --> 01:17:45,725

an ending as the butterfly effect.

:

01:17:46,145 --> 01:17:49,180

Jerome: Because then she would say

something like Yeah, I wondered why

:

01:17:49,180 --> 01:17:50,250

we've never gotten in a fight before.

:

01:17:51,410 --> 01:17:51,470

Right?

:

01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,550

No, it occurs to me now, you've never

fucked up in our entire marriage.

:

01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,120

You've never made a mistake.

:

01:18:00,190 --> 01:18:04,190

Chris: I gotta hand it to you because

for the last, literally, couple

:

01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,410

weeks you've been like poo pooing

this movie and I've been really

:

01:18:08,410 --> 01:18:11,100

defensive going, what's his problem?

:

01:18:11,470 --> 01:18:12,390

I love this guy.

:

01:18:12,430 --> 01:18:13,400

I love this movie.

:

01:18:15,010 --> 01:18:20,630

You've made me think and I will

concede that that is a very good point.

:

01:18:20,730 --> 01:18:22,340

I, I, I hand it to you.

:

01:18:22,340 --> 01:18:23,390

That is a very good point.

:

01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:24,470

I still love the movie.

:

01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:25,980

Jerome: It's still an enjoyable film.

:

01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:26,230

Yeah.

:

01:18:26,230 --> 01:18:26,830

I will give it that.

:

01:18:26,860 --> 01:18:28,590

In fact, the wedding scene is great.

:

01:18:28,670 --> 01:18:32,410

I, and by the way, we haven't

even mentioned Vanessa Kirby who

:

01:18:32,410 --> 01:18:34,280

plays the friend, her friend.

:

01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:35,670

She's great too.

:

01:18:35,690 --> 01:18:36,420

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:39,340

And the wedding monsoon

scene, she's pissed off.

:

01:18:39,340 --> 01:18:41,520

Her dress is fucking

soaked and everything.

:

01:18:41,809 --> 01:18:42,580

She is awesome.

:

01:18:42,580 --> 01:18:44,950

You know, she went on to be

nominated for best actress.

:

01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:48,470

For another film, fuck, I'm

gonna be pissed off, I can't

:

01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:49,170

remember the name of it.

:

01:18:49,380 --> 01:18:52,140

It's the one where she loses

her baby in, in childbirth.

:

01:18:52,150 --> 01:18:53,540

It's an at home childbirth.

:

01:18:55,450 --> 01:18:56,610

Is it about her?

:

01:18:56,620 --> 01:18:57,280

Is that what it's called?

:

01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,050

Something like that?

:

01:18:59,220 --> 01:19:00,390

Oh my god!

:

01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:01,470

I don't know the movie

you're talking about.

:

01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,809

It, it, it's Shia LaBeouf

plays her husband.

:

01:19:04,130 --> 01:19:07,620

And, and they wanna have this natural

at home birth so they get one of

:

01:19:07,620 --> 01:19:09,080

those, What was her friend's name?

:

01:19:09,820 --> 01:19:13,360

In the movie I can't remember her friend's

name, her the actress was Vanessa Kirby.

:

01:19:14,230 --> 01:19:16,830

And, God, people are listening

right now and they're screaming

:

01:19:16,830 --> 01:19:18,000

at their fucking phone.

:

01:19:18,670 --> 01:19:19,510

Okay, I'll tell you right now.

:

01:19:20,220 --> 01:19:20,850

I'll tell you right now.

:

01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:21,490

I got it.

:

01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,050

Pieces of a something?

:

01:19:23,740 --> 01:19:24,670

Pieces of me?

:

01:19:24,750 --> 01:19:25,320

Is that what it is?

:

01:19:25,330 --> 01:19:26,290

Pieces of a woman?

:

01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,860

Pieces of a woman, that's it.

:

01:19:27,890 --> 01:19:29,960

Okay, so Vanessa Kirby, yes.

:

01:19:29,970 --> 01:19:32,200

She was nominated for Best

Actress for Pieces of a Woman.

:

01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:32,570

Huh.

:

01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:33,240

:

:

01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:35,150

That's an intense film, dude.

:

01:19:35,380 --> 01:19:35,950

Check that out.

:

01:19:35,970 --> 01:19:37,630

The whole movie's not intense.

:

01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,160

The first Act is intense.

:

01:19:42,590 --> 01:19:43,830

I'm telling you right now, look at me.

:

01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:44,290

Yeah.

:

01:19:44,350 --> 01:19:44,670

Look at me.

:

01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:45,400

Look at me.

:

01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:47,050

Give me your full and undivided.

:

01:19:47,070 --> 01:19:47,620

Okay, gotcha.

:

01:19:48,309 --> 01:19:49,530

It's a hard scene to watch.

:

01:19:49,780 --> 01:19:50,210

Okay.

:

01:19:50,660 --> 01:19:53,650

The baby, delivering and dying at birth.

:

01:19:53,710 --> 01:19:54,570

Oh yeah, that would be rough.

:

01:19:54,570 --> 01:19:57,320

Is a hard, hard scene to watch.

:

01:19:58,635 --> 01:20:01,705

But the whole rest of the movie is about

how they're, like, holding this what do

:

01:20:01,705 --> 01:20:04,165

they call the woman that comes to your

house to help you give birth to the kid?

:

01:20:04,165 --> 01:20:04,575

Midwife.

:

01:20:05,055 --> 01:20:05,795

The midwife.

:

01:20:05,805 --> 01:20:06,025

Yeah.

:

01:20:06,035 --> 01:20:09,505

They, how they try to sue her and

take her to court for killing the kid.

:

01:20:09,555 --> 01:20:09,934

Oh, wow.

:

01:20:09,955 --> 01:20:11,385

Because of her negligence.

:

01:20:11,585 --> 01:20:14,475

But it's really about her marriage

with Shia LaBeouf's character

:

01:20:14,475 --> 01:20:17,595

is falling apart and, you know,

I mean, it's an intense movie.

:

01:20:17,605 --> 01:20:18,705

And she was nominated for Best Actress.

:

01:20:19,165 --> 01:20:21,465

This, I didn't know she was in this movie.

:

01:20:21,575 --> 01:20:21,905

Hmm.

:

01:20:21,955 --> 01:20:22,755

About Time.

:

01:20:22,835 --> 01:20:27,075

So when I started watching About Time, I'm

like, hey, that's the Chick from fuckin

:

01:20:27,225 --> 01:20:28,625

whatever, Pieces of Me, whatever it is.

:

01:20:28,945 --> 01:20:29,635

Changes of a Woman.

:

01:20:30,045 --> 01:20:31,155

I already forgot the title again.

:

01:20:31,265 --> 01:20:31,795

Fuck, man.

:

01:20:32,465 --> 01:20:32,885

Sorry.

:

01:20:32,885 --> 01:20:33,895

It's these beers.

:

01:20:34,135 --> 01:20:35,025

Yeah, it's, you know.

:

01:20:35,155 --> 01:20:36,205

Pieces of a Woman.

:

01:20:36,335 --> 01:20:39,255

It's not an easy title, so

just roll off your tongue.

:

01:20:39,525 --> 01:20:40,745

Pieces of a Woman, yes.

:

01:20:40,845 --> 01:20:42,485

You can watch it, but it's intense.

:

01:20:42,625 --> 01:20:44,175

And particularly the first act.

:

01:20:44,305 --> 01:20:46,485

So I told you I was gonna give

you another piece of trivia about

:

01:20:46,485 --> 01:20:47,285

four weddings and a funeral.

:

01:20:49,225 --> 01:20:51,934

Let me tell you one of, ugh.

:

01:20:53,895 --> 01:21:01,345

It is considered by some,

including myself, that:

:

01:21:01,345 --> 01:21:04,355

the greatest collection of Best

Picture nominees at the Oscars.

:

01:21:04,945 --> 01:21:05,335

Okay?

:

01:21:05,495 --> 01:21:05,795

Okay.

:

01:21:05,805 --> 01:21:07,525

You wanna hear the four

nom the five nominees?

:

01:21:07,595 --> 01:21:08,065

Yeah, yeah.

:

01:21:08,875 --> 01:21:11,195

I'll give you the four losers first, okay?

:

01:21:11,735 --> 01:21:13,045

Four weddings and a funeral.

:

01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:16,400

Which, again, was Richard

Curtis high point.

:

01:21:16,450 --> 01:21:17,790

I think it's Love Actually.

:

01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:19,220

Other people think it's Notting Hill.

:

01:21:19,370 --> 01:21:22,170

But really, Four Rings and a

Funeral was one of his best

:

01:21:22,170 --> 01:21:23,610

movies, if not his best film.

:

01:21:24,330 --> 01:21:25,350

Best picture, nominee.

:

01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:27,910

Quiz Show, nominated.

:

01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,840

Robert Redford's film about

the:

:

01:21:32,340 --> 01:21:33,100

Great film.

:

01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,270

If you haven't seen Quiz

Show, we suggest you do.

:

01:21:34,340 --> 01:21:34,900

I haven't seen that one.

:

01:21:35,405 --> 01:21:37,195

Oh my god, it's fantastic!

:

01:21:37,415 --> 01:21:39,945

Scorsese actually appears in the

film as an actor, it's great.

:

01:21:40,425 --> 01:21:42,335

You should see that, that

was, that's really good.

:

01:21:42,415 --> 01:21:43,625

That was nominated for Best Picture.

:

01:21:44,505 --> 01:21:46,075

And now we get into the three big ones.

:

01:21:46,895 --> 01:21:47,955

The Shawshank Redemption.

:

01:21:48,095 --> 01:21:48,595

Okay.

:

01:21:48,965 --> 01:21:49,765

Up for Best Picture.

:

01:21:50,290 --> 01:21:51,010

Pulp Fiction.

:

01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:52,120

Offer Best Picture.

:

01:21:52,460 --> 01:21:55,980

Those four all lost to Forrest Gump.

:

01:21:56,070 --> 01:21:56,790

Well, yeah.

:

01:21:56,990 --> 01:21:59,500

And that's considered though,

the five, like that's one of

:

01:21:59,500 --> 01:22:01,710

the five best collections.

:

01:22:01,980 --> 01:22:06,180

Normally when the Oscars come around,

nowadays you can get up to ten nominees.

:

01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:06,600

Right.

:

01:22:06,610 --> 01:22:09,500

So you have, I don't want to say

duds, but you have a few more in

:

01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:11,156

there that people know have no shot.

:

01:22:11,156 --> 01:22:14,665

But back in the day, prior to

:

:

01:22:14,665 --> 01:22:15,715

year there was only 5 nominees.

:

01:22:15,865 --> 01:22:17,785

By the way, another trivia, do

you know why they changed it?

:

01:22:18,645 --> 01:22:21,645

Do you know why after:

:

01:22:21,715 --> 01:22:24,075

They changed it to where now

you can have up to 10 nominees?

:

01:22:24,655 --> 01:22:27,385

Cause the Dark Knight got snubbed

and did not get nominated.

:

01:22:27,415 --> 01:22:31,525

And Heath Ledger's final role did

not get a Best Picture nomination.

:

01:22:31,645 --> 01:22:33,125

And everybody was aghast!

:

01:22:33,700 --> 01:22:35,630

They're like, how can

this movie be left out?

:

01:22:35,710 --> 01:22:36,030

Right.

:

01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,070

So they change it.

:

01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:38,920

I mean, some people argue

that's not why they changed it.

:

01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:39,800

That's why they changed it.

:

01:22:39,809 --> 01:22:40,480

That's why they changed it.

:

01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:42,640

Now you can have up to ten.

:

01:22:42,650 --> 01:22:45,290

And now movies like The Dark

Knight would get nominated, right?

:

01:22:45,290 --> 01:22:45,580

Right.

:

01:22:45,980 --> 01:22:48,250

Like, movies that you would

never think would get nominated

:

01:22:48,250 --> 01:22:49,710

before now can get nominated.

:

01:22:50,059 --> 01:22:54,225

But back in the day when there was

only five, there's usually one or two.

:

01:22:54,225 --> 01:22:55,610

Like The Front Runners.

:

01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:59,350

Maybe a third wildcard one, and

then there's two films that are

:

01:22:59,350 --> 01:23:00,610

like, these films have no chance.

:

01:23:01,250 --> 01:23:06,020

:

that in any other year probably

:

01:23:06,020 --> 01:23:07,040

could have won Best Picture.

:

01:23:07,050 --> 01:23:07,770

Right, right.

:

01:23:07,809 --> 01:23:09,670

Four Weddings and a Funeral is that good.

:

01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:10,190

Yeah.

:

01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,059

And that was Richard Curtis high point.

:

01:23:13,050 --> 01:23:14,550

So, little interesting thing on him.

:

01:23:15,020 --> 01:23:20,190

It's also worth noting, About Time

is not considered as highly regarded

:

01:23:20,190 --> 01:23:23,750

as Four Weddings and a Funeral,

Notting Hill what was the other one?

:

01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:24,870

Bridget Jones's Diary.

:

01:23:26,590 --> 01:23:28,730

Those are all considered

far better than about time.

:

01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:29,809

And why do you think that is?

:

01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,720

I think this has something to do with it.

:

01:23:31,900 --> 01:23:32,510

Chris: Probably.

:

01:23:32,690 --> 01:23:33,040

Yeah.

:

01:23:33,230 --> 01:23:33,520

Yeah.

:

01:23:33,590 --> 01:23:35,010

I mean, that's for real.

:

01:23:35,010 --> 01:23:39,059

I mean, the love interest

is a manipulator.

:

01:23:39,540 --> 01:23:43,070

Jerome: People watch People

watch A mass manipulator.

:

01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:44,890

Borderline rapist.

:

01:23:44,890 --> 01:23:45,290

Serial.

:

01:23:45,290 --> 01:23:46,270

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

01:23:46,270 --> 01:23:47,370

Serial manipulator.

:

01:23:47,370 --> 01:23:47,920

Borderline serial manipulator.

:

01:23:48,020 --> 01:23:55,620

He's a serial rapist if you ask me, but

anyway, but anyway, he would be that

:

01:23:55,630 --> 01:23:57,940

movie and he would be canceled today.

:

01:23:58,270 --> 01:23:58,610

Anyway.

:

01:23:58,910 --> 01:24:02,370

But no, I mean people, men and

women can watch Nothing Hill, right?

:

01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:04,110

And fall in love with the characters.

:

01:24:04,460 --> 01:24:05,700

They can watch Four Weddings and Funeral.

:

01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:10,580

They can watch Love Actually and identify

with some of the characters, right?

:

01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:17,440

I had a hard time feeling for

Tim, wanting to root for Tim.

:

01:24:18,410 --> 01:24:19,830

Sympathizing with Tim?

:

01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,680

Tim, to me, was unlikable.

:

01:24:22,210 --> 01:24:24,070

And I wanted everybody

else to be free of him.

:

01:24:25,380 --> 01:24:26,190

That's harsh.

:

01:24:26,420 --> 01:24:27,110

That came out wrong.

:

01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:28,920

No, no, that's right.

:

01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,240

I wanted everybody else to be free of him.

:

01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:35,520

He's like, I feel like he And,

and then, you know, there's,

:

01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,050

there's one other little thing.

:

01:24:37,050 --> 01:24:38,110

There's one other little nugget.

:

01:24:39,070 --> 01:24:41,760

When he first meets Harry, his roommate.

:

01:24:41,950 --> 01:24:42,260

Yeah.

:

01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:43,880

He knocks on the door.

:

01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:46,770

And Harry, you can hear

Harry inside the building.

:

01:24:46,770 --> 01:24:48,930

He's like, FUCK!

:

01:24:49,210 --> 01:24:51,890

And he comes to the door and he's

like, I just had the greatest idea

:

01:24:51,890 --> 01:24:53,780

I ever had, and you ruined it.

:

01:24:55,180 --> 01:24:56,590

He never changes that moment.

:

01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,320

He coulda easily gone back

in time five fuckin minutes.

:

01:25:00,970 --> 01:25:01,840

And thought, you know what, I'll wait.

:

01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:02,870

I'll wait.

:

01:25:03,220 --> 01:25:04,059

I'll go to the bar.

:

01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,330

I'll go to the bar for a half hour.

:

01:25:05,780 --> 01:25:06,960

And I'll wait and have a drink.

:

01:25:07,270 --> 01:25:08,350

And I'll wait a half hour.

:

01:25:08,350 --> 01:25:09,770

And then I'll go knock on Harry's door.

:

01:25:09,770 --> 01:25:11,460

Chris: That's a dick move, man.

:

01:25:11,740 --> 01:25:12,540

Jerome: Total dick move!

:

01:25:14,210 --> 01:25:16,650

And you have the power

to do that, you asshole!

:

01:25:16,650 --> 01:25:17,951

I didn't even think about that.

:

01:25:17,951 --> 01:25:18,770

And you don't!

:

01:25:18,770 --> 01:25:19,830

And you don't!

:

01:25:21,010 --> 01:25:22,200

You don't even fix that!

:

01:25:23,540 --> 01:25:24,340

Chris: What a dick.

:

01:25:24,910 --> 01:25:27,020

Jerome: So right, and again,

that's at the turning point.

:

01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:28,380

That's at the first break, right?

:

01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:29,670

That's where we get into Act Two.

:

01:25:30,130 --> 01:25:31,670

So right off the bat, then!

:

01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,890

See, I was sympathetic towards

him at the beginning when he

:

01:25:35,059 --> 01:25:36,250

had the Summer of Charlotte.

:

01:25:36,309 --> 01:25:36,580

Yeah.

:

01:25:36,580 --> 01:25:38,100

And she shoots him down twice.

:

01:25:38,190 --> 01:25:38,680

Right.

:

01:25:38,780 --> 01:25:42,650

Because I'm like, oh, see, even

changing the past won't fix everything.

:

01:25:42,820 --> 01:25:43,809

I was on his side.

:

01:25:44,020 --> 01:25:46,530

And then that happened,

like, a scene later.

:

01:25:46,540 --> 01:25:46,980

You're like, oh,

:

01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:47,970

you're never gonna get back.

:

01:25:47,970 --> 01:25:51,050

Barbie and then that happens and

then he could have got Barbie and

:

01:25:51,050 --> 01:25:51,700

he doesn't.

:

01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:52,360

Right.

:

01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,290

And then that scene happens and I'm like,

you dick, you could have gone back and

:

01:25:56,540 --> 01:25:59,770

fixed it so that Harry has his great idea.

:

01:25:59,830 --> 01:26:00,890

He can write it down.

:

01:26:01,330 --> 01:26:03,190

You fucking don't even change that.

:

01:26:03,410 --> 01:26:05,230

It would have cost five

minutes of your life.

:

01:26:05,605 --> 01:26:05,975

Right.

:

01:26:06,015 --> 01:26:06,965

You fuckin prick!

:

01:26:08,455 --> 01:26:10,305

Anyway, I was pissed off from then on.

:

01:26:10,805 --> 01:26:12,145

And he coulda just went and had a pint.

:

01:26:12,795 --> 01:26:15,555

And it just went over and over

and over and over and over again.

:

01:26:16,025 --> 01:26:19,015

Every time he redid this sex

scene, I'm like, This is rape,

:

01:26:19,015 --> 01:26:19,915

does anybody else see this?

:

01:26:20,345 --> 01:26:20,635

Yeah.

:

01:26:20,684 --> 01:26:23,755

Like, this is against

her will, unknowingly.

:

01:26:23,934 --> 01:26:26,345

Yeah, I'm going too far

with the rape accusation.

:

01:26:26,405 --> 01:26:29,965

But anyway, I just I was just

I was just at that point.

:

01:26:29,965 --> 01:26:30,835

I was just pissed.

:

01:26:30,835 --> 01:26:33,684

I was like, I can't sympathize

with this character.

:

01:26:33,684 --> 01:26:34,605

I can't feel for this.

:

01:26:34,655 --> 01:26:36,575

Well, I don't want him to win

:

01:26:37,095 --> 01:26:40,125

Chris: as it is with a

lot of time travel movies.

:

01:26:40,195 --> 01:26:42,555

I mean, there's a it's usually problems,

:

01:26:43,595 --> 01:26:43,845

Jerome: right?

:

01:26:43,845 --> 01:26:48,230

But then if you look at somewhere in

time, You're rooting for Richard, because

:

01:26:48,230 --> 01:26:50,300

he's not, he can't manipulate anything.

:

01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,820

He's trying to live it how it happened.

:

01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,980

If anything, he's trying to go back

and relive what already happened.

:

01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:57,590

Right, right.

:

01:26:58,730 --> 01:27:01,270

And he's powerless to,

to manipulate anything.

:

01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,770

In fact, he's the

underdog the entire time.

:

01:27:04,770 --> 01:27:08,620

The manager keeps pushing him

down more and more and more.

:

01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,690

You just want him to deck

Christopher Plummer in the face.

:

01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,340

Like, I wanted to deck him like six times.

:

01:27:14,610 --> 01:27:18,260

And I if there was a time I got pissed

off in Somewhere in Time, it's that at

:

01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:20,450

least McKenna doesn't deck him more.

:

01:27:20,770 --> 01:27:23,880

She should be like, Look,

motherfucker, you're my manager.

:

01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:25,220

You work for me.

:

01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,120

If I want to dick down Superman,

I'm going to dick down Superman.

:

01:27:29,260 --> 01:27:30,740

And you're going to sit there and like it.

:

01:27:31,210 --> 01:27:33,470

But she kowtows to everything he says.

:

01:27:34,220 --> 01:27:35,850

He says, no, you are

not to see him anymore.

:

01:27:35,890 --> 01:27:36,940

Oh, but why?

:

01:27:36,970 --> 01:27:39,580

Like, no, you should say, I'm the boss.

:

01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:40,890

I pay you.

:

01:27:41,710 --> 01:27:43,970

So that's the part I would get

mad at somewhere in time is

:

01:27:43,970 --> 01:27:45,530

that she's not strong enough.

:

01:27:45,710 --> 01:27:47,460

She doesn't assert herself enough.

:

01:27:47,690 --> 01:27:48,059

Yeah.

:

01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:48,800

You know what I mean?

:

01:27:50,059 --> 01:27:51,720

God, both these movies got me fired up.

:

01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:56,510

Chris: Alright, let's do Six Degrees, man.

:

01:27:56,510 --> 01:27:57,070

Alright, Six Degrees.

:

01:27:57,070 --> 01:27:57,670

Are we done here?

:

01:27:57,820 --> 01:28:00,410

So, did you get my

update about Six Degrees?

:

01:28:00,809 --> 01:28:01,110

No.

:

01:28:01,190 --> 01:28:03,210

Oh, so we're not gonna do the update.

:

01:28:03,684 --> 01:28:04,355

Why why not?

:

01:28:04,395 --> 01:28:08,885

Well, I thought the one I sent

you was an easy like softball.

:

01:28:09,175 --> 01:28:11,255

Yeah, because you got it so easy

:

01:28:11,805 --> 01:28:15,785

Jerome: Well, and that was the thing

you text me and you said I got it in

:

01:28:15,785 --> 01:28:18,505

five and I was like well Let me look

at it and I'm like, yeah, that is an

:

01:28:18,505 --> 01:28:21,375

easy one I actually got it in three

I was like I shouldn't tell him that

:

01:28:21,615 --> 01:28:22,875

because then he's gonna want to redo it.

:

01:28:22,945 --> 01:28:24,275

Chris: I did I try to redo it

:

01:28:24,275 --> 01:28:25,705

Jerome: I just I see it now.

:

01:28:25,725 --> 01:28:27,865

I know I see it now you want to redo it.

:

01:28:27,875 --> 01:28:31,675

I still I still think it

Let's tell them what it was.

:

01:28:31,695 --> 01:28:32,135

Okay.

:

01:28:32,365 --> 01:28:33,305

And then we'll look at the redo.

:

01:28:33,315 --> 01:28:37,045

Chris: Yeah, cause I think the redo

is still easy because that kid was in

:

01:28:37,095 --> 01:28:38,445

two big movies.

:

01:28:38,855 --> 01:28:40,475

Jerome: Well, I, I

haven't even got a chance.

:

01:28:40,535 --> 01:28:44,015

Chris: Okay, so let's, let's talk

about, I, I originally sent you

:

01:28:44,025 --> 01:28:46,505

Susan French and Charlie curtis.

:

01:28:46,545 --> 01:28:47,915

Jerome: Okay, so let's

tell people who they are.

:

01:28:47,925 --> 01:28:50,655

So Susan French is the old

woman in Somewhere in Time.

:

01:28:50,675 --> 01:28:51,125

Yes.

:

01:28:51,135 --> 01:28:53,285

The one that comes up to Christopher

Reeve at the beginning with the

:

01:28:53,285 --> 01:28:54,895

locket and says, Come back to me.

:

01:28:54,905 --> 01:28:55,255

Right.

:

01:28:55,265 --> 01:28:55,825

Or stopwatch.

:

01:28:56,255 --> 01:28:56,845

Pocket watch.

:

01:28:57,675 --> 01:28:58,885

And Charlie Curtis.

:

01:28:59,455 --> 01:29:04,005

Is in about time, but he

plays the young Tim, right?

:

01:29:04,275 --> 01:29:06,515

When he goes back in time,

he's like a five year old.

:

01:29:06,515 --> 01:29:06,705

Little

:

01:29:06,705 --> 01:29:08,055

kid running on the beach,

:

01:29:08,075 --> 01:29:08,335

yep.

:

01:29:08,385 --> 01:29:11,885

Okay, so this was interesting

because neither one of them

:

01:29:11,885 --> 01:29:13,055

really have been in a lot.

:

01:29:13,175 --> 01:29:13,434

Right.

:

01:29:13,445 --> 01:29:18,365

But, Charlie Curtis, in fact,

has only been in one other movie.

:

01:29:19,025 --> 01:29:19,495

A big one.

:

01:29:20,230 --> 01:29:20,500

It.

:

01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:22,900

No, not, not Charlie Curtis.

:

01:29:23,050 --> 01:29:23,855

What was the other one, Charlie?

:

01:29:23,855 --> 01:29:24,535

Oh no, you're right.

:

01:29:24,535 --> 01:29:25,655

Charlie Curtis was in,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

01:29:25,655 --> 01:29:26,095

Charlie Curtis.

:

01:29:26,115 --> 01:29:27,700

But there was a couple big names in that,

:

01:29:27,820 --> 01:29:28,330

in that movie.

:

01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:28,510

Yeah.

:

01:29:28,540 --> 01:29:29,860

Charlie Curtis was in Chips.

:

01:29:29,890 --> 01:29:33,730

Yeah, chips, which was the movie

based on the TV show with Michael

:

01:29:33,730 --> 01:29:36,550

Pena and Dax Shepherd and Comedy.

:

01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:36,850

Right.

:

01:29:36,850 --> 01:29:39,190

But also in that film

was Vincent Donofrio.

:

01:29:39,250 --> 01:29:39,910

Right.

:

01:29:39,970 --> 01:29:43,600

Who was in Mystic Pizza with

Julia Roberts, who was in

:

01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,370

Flat Liners with Susan French.

:

01:29:45,370 --> 01:29:47,050

Susan French was actually in Flat Liners.

:

01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:47,559

Right.

:

01:29:47,620 --> 01:29:48,284

She was, so that was easy.

:

01:29:48,950 --> 01:29:50,050

She was a terminally ill patient.

:

01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:50,400

Yeah.

:

01:29:50,460 --> 01:29:51,720

So I was like, hiding right.

:

01:29:51,730 --> 01:29:53,130

That was, I got it in three.

:

01:29:53,270 --> 01:29:55,710

Well, I'm like, yeah,

I'm, I'm riding high here.

:

01:29:55,790 --> 01:29:56,020

Chris: Yeah.

:

01:29:56,020 --> 01:29:59,840

And when I saw that, I, I, yeah,

I, I went a different route and I

:

01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,270

got it in five, but you're right.

:

01:30:01,270 --> 01:30:02,080

That was easy.

:

01:30:02,090 --> 01:30:03,840

So I, what is this other one now?

:

01:30:03,850 --> 01:30:08,760

I tried to amend it to see if

we could do, uh, Sean hayden.

:

01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:10,130

Jerome: Okay, let me see here.

:

01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:11,170

Sean Hayden.

:

01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:12,020

Who's Sean Hayden?

:

01:30:12,170 --> 01:30:14,559

Chris: The, wait a minute.

:

01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:18,059

With Charlie Curtis.

:

01:30:18,059 --> 01:30:19,670

So, Charlie Curtis is the same.

:

01:30:19,670 --> 01:30:22,990

So, Sean Hayden was the little kid.

:

01:30:23,559 --> 01:30:24,480

Of the old man.

:

01:30:24,630 --> 01:30:25,330

Oh, he was Arthur!

:

01:30:25,330 --> 01:30:26,140

He was the little Arthur.

:

01:30:26,140 --> 01:30:26,920

He was the little

:

01:30:26,930 --> 01:30:27,730

Arthur.

:

01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:30,059

So it would have been two little kids.

:

01:30:30,309 --> 01:30:34,330

Now, take a look at IMDB and

take a look at what he was in.

:

01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,010

Jerome: Sean Hayden's

only been in two movies?

:

01:30:37,500 --> 01:30:37,870

Yes.

:

01:30:37,990 --> 01:30:39,100

Look at what he was in though.

:

01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:41,513

Somewhere in time in Blues Brothers?

:

01:30:41,513 --> 01:30:42,013

Yes!

:

01:30:42,013 --> 01:30:46,019

Alright, well, fuck,

let's try to work this.

:

01:30:46,019 --> 01:30:50,025

Chris: Yeah, there's some

big names in Blues Brothers.

:

01:30:50,565 --> 01:30:51,605

Jerome: Let's go, let's go backwards.

:

01:30:52,065 --> 01:30:54,695

Charlie Curtis we know is only,

I can only use chips, right?

:

01:30:54,695 --> 01:30:57,175

Because I can't use About Time.

:

01:30:58,085 --> 01:31:03,934

So if I can only use chips

Who do we Michael Pena, no.

:

01:31:05,045 --> 01:31:06,095

Dax Shepard, no.

:

01:31:07,885 --> 01:31:09,645

Let me, let me, let me,

who else is in that?

:

01:31:11,045 --> 01:31:12,140

Rosa Salazar?

:

01:31:12,140 --> 01:31:17,425

I'm just gonna go Maze Runner, I guess.

:

01:31:17,515 --> 01:31:19,795

Oh, wait, wait, wait,

wait, wait, wait, wait!

:

01:31:20,975 --> 01:31:23,235

Rosa Salazar was in Maze Runner!

:

01:31:23,985 --> 01:31:25,555

With the kid from Love Actually!

:

01:31:26,740 --> 01:31:30,200

The, the little kid uh, What's his name?

:

01:31:30,270 --> 01:31:31,970

Thomas Brody Sangster.

:

01:31:32,440 --> 01:31:32,760

Right?

:

01:31:33,180 --> 01:31:34,140

Thomas something?

:

01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,050

She was in what?

:

01:31:35,870 --> 01:31:37,030

She was in Maze Runner.

:

01:31:38,265 --> 01:31:39,675

And he was in that.

:

01:31:39,955 --> 01:31:43,415

He was in that as an older kid, because

I remember that was his big break.

:

01:31:43,655 --> 01:31:44,735

It wasn't a big break.

:

01:31:44,925 --> 01:31:47,135

Love Actually was his big

break, but he was just a kid.

:

01:31:47,815 --> 01:31:52,495

By the time Maze Runner came out, he

was like a hunky, young, early twenties.

:

01:31:52,845 --> 01:31:55,425

And people were like, oh wow, look

at the kid from Love Actually now.

:

01:31:55,434 --> 01:31:56,785

He's like a little hunky kid.

:

01:31:57,485 --> 01:31:58,255

That doesn't help me though.

:

01:31:58,275 --> 01:31:59,105

Well, Love Actually.

:

01:31:59,845 --> 01:32:00,365

Love Actually.

:

01:32:00,555 --> 01:32:02,184

No, there's a lot of people

in Love Actually, right?

:

01:32:02,684 --> 01:32:05,195

So we have to somehow get Love

Actually to Blues Brothers.

:

01:32:06,195 --> 01:32:08,005

How are we gonna get Love

Actually to Bruce Brothers?

:

01:32:13,465 --> 01:32:14,302

Well, I got it!

:

01:32:14,302 --> 01:32:14,999

I got it!

:

01:32:14,999 --> 01:32:15,696

I got it!

:

01:32:15,696 --> 01:32:16,392

I got it!

:

01:32:16,392 --> 01:32:16,895

I got it!

:

01:32:18,635 --> 01:32:19,655

Holy shit, I got it!

:

01:32:19,684 --> 01:32:20,835

Wait, this might be too many, though.

:

01:32:20,885 --> 01:32:21,885

This might be past six.

:

01:32:22,825 --> 01:32:24,895

Love Actually I'm doing

this on the fly, though.

:

01:32:25,265 --> 01:32:27,305

Love Actually has Alan Rickman.

:

01:32:28,045 --> 01:32:28,395

Right?

:

01:32:28,835 --> 01:32:30,335

Alan Rickman's in Die Hard.

:

01:32:31,765 --> 01:32:32,285

Right?

:

01:32:33,045 --> 01:32:33,765

Are you following me?

:

01:32:35,675 --> 01:32:38,025

Okay, Alan Rickman's in Die Hard.

:

01:32:38,285 --> 01:32:41,665

The limo driver, Theo Or no, Argyle.

:

01:32:41,735 --> 01:32:43,395

Argyle the limo driver.

:

01:32:43,465 --> 01:32:46,375

And Diehard is in Blues Brothers!

:

01:32:46,405 --> 01:32:47,255

Is he really?

:

01:32:47,255 --> 01:32:49,635

He's the kid that tries

to steal the guitar!

:

01:32:51,684 --> 01:32:52,785

Chris: Alright, look this up.

:

01:32:52,895 --> 01:32:54,125

You gotta convince me.

:

01:32:55,575 --> 01:32:56,015

Oh my

:

01:32:56,015 --> 01:32:56,525

Jerome: god.

:

01:32:57,205 --> 01:32:57,875

Really?

:

01:33:01,295 --> 01:33:02,205

But how many is that?

:

01:33:02,205 --> 01:33:03,195

That could be like seven.

:

01:33:03,205 --> 01:33:03,805

Hang on.

:

01:33:04,665 --> 01:33:05,945

Charlie Curtis is in Chips.

:

01:33:05,945 --> 01:33:06,425

That's one.

:

01:33:06,425 --> 01:33:06,865

Chips.

:

01:33:07,305 --> 01:33:08,855

Rosa Salazar is in Maze Runner.

:

01:33:08,855 --> 01:33:09,505

That's two.

:

01:33:10,245 --> 01:33:12,285

Thomas Brody Sangster is in Love Actually.

:

01:33:12,285 --> 01:33:13,005

That's three.

:

01:33:13,805 --> 01:33:14,985

Alan Rickman's in Diehard.

:

01:33:14,985 --> 01:33:15,625

That's four.

:

01:33:15,635 --> 01:33:17,305

Devereux White is the kid.

:

01:33:17,934 --> 01:33:20,395

Blues brothers, that's five!

:

01:33:20,395 --> 01:33:21,655

FIVE!

:

01:33:21,655 --> 01:33:23,005

Chris: I bet you it can be less.

:

01:33:23,535 --> 01:33:27,035

Jerome: Oh, it's probably like three or

two but Fuck, you caught me off guard!

:

01:33:27,045 --> 01:33:27,995

Yeah, that was well

:

01:33:28,975 --> 01:33:29,655

Chris: That was fun.

:

01:33:31,345 --> 01:33:33,115

Jerome: Dude, I need a nap.

:

01:33:33,355 --> 01:33:36,925

Chris: The the the again, the

goal isn't to stump Jerome.

:

01:33:36,934 --> 01:33:40,625

The goal is to see if we can

find two actors that weren't

:

01:33:40,985 --> 01:33:42,375

that aren't connected in six.

:

01:33:42,425 --> 01:33:46,835

Jerome: And Sean Hayden and Charlie

Curtis are both Child actors.

:

01:33:46,905 --> 01:33:47,375

Yeah.

:

01:33:47,705 --> 01:33:48,015

Yeah.

:

01:33:48,015 --> 01:33:49,395

That's what only in two films.

:

01:33:49,425 --> 01:33:49,915

Yeah.

:

01:33:49,965 --> 01:33:50,535

That's amazing.

:

01:33:50,755 --> 01:33:52,365

Use the film that we're talking about.

:

01:33:52,575 --> 01:33:54,635

And that's an added level of difficulty.

:

01:33:54,655 --> 01:33:58,455

So we only had blues brothers

and chips to go with.

:

01:33:58,455 --> 01:34:04,325

Chris: That was good.

:

01:34:04,895 --> 01:34:05,235

Jerome: What?

:

01:34:05,780 --> 01:34:08,580

I tell you, I thought once I hit love,

actually I hit a wall, but then I

:

01:34:08,580 --> 01:34:12,020

realized that fucking, that's, that

was, that was my all is lost moment.

:

01:34:12,190 --> 01:34:15,340

And then I had the dark night of the soul

and I went right to the break to three.

:

01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,950

Chris: So probably tomorrow you're going

to come back and say I did it in three.

:

01:34:19,430 --> 01:34:23,040

And we're off to, we'll have to put a

post that we, an update or something.

:

01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:25,630

Jerome: I could probably

spend hours on this.

:

01:34:26,889 --> 01:34:27,290

What's his name?

:

01:34:27,290 --> 01:34:28,330

His name's Deverell Wright.

:

01:34:28,330 --> 01:34:28,809

Right, right.

:

01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:29,980

I always get it fucked up.

:

01:34:29,990 --> 01:34:33,680

He's, so anyway, he's Argyle

and the limo driver in Die Hard.

:

01:34:33,910 --> 01:34:34,980

But he's, so in.

:

01:34:35,530 --> 01:34:39,219

And I always remember this scene, too,

because me and my buddy Mark, we love

:

01:34:39,219 --> 01:34:42,139

this part of Blues Brothers, because

he comes in, he's like 12 years old

:

01:34:42,139 --> 01:34:45,250

in the movie, and he tries to steal

a guitar, and they're like, hey!

:

01:34:45,469 --> 01:34:46,630

And it's Ray Charles!

:

01:34:46,740 --> 01:34:50,350

Ray Charles, who's blind, by

the way, knows he's there.

:

01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:50,840

He's like, hey!

:

01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,010

Don't touch that guitar!

:

01:34:52,010 --> 01:34:55,180

Like, he just senses it, and the kids,

like, get scared, and he runs out.

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That's Argyle.

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Oh my gosh, that's amazing.

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What is his name, though?

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What is it?

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I want to make sure I get it right.

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Devoro White.

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01:35:02,030 --> 01:35:02,880

I said Devoro White.

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Devoro White.

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01:35:03,900 --> 01:35:04,170

Yeah.

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01:35:04,930 --> 01:35:05,280

Yeah.

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01:35:05,350 --> 01:35:05,969

Chris: Well done.

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01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:06,770

Jerome: Fuck!

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01:35:08,530 --> 01:35:10,157

Mark Hughes is somewhere

listening to this.

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He'd be very proud.

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01:35:11,223 --> 01:35:12,340

He'd be very proud.

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01:35:12,490 --> 01:35:14,410

He's a huge fan of the Blues Brothers.

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01:35:14,420 --> 01:35:15,430

He knows what I'm talking about.

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01:35:15,830 --> 01:35:16,740

He knows it's Argyle.

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01:35:16,740 --> 01:35:18,110

He knows it's Argyle, the limo driver.

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01:35:19,100 --> 01:35:20,050

Chris: Alright, well done.

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01:35:20,290 --> 01:35:21,750

You got it twice today.

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01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:25,040

Jerome: Man, I thought

I was skating clean.

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01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,139

I'm like, I got six

degrees in the bag today.

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01:35:27,210 --> 01:35:27,790

Yeah.

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01:35:28,370 --> 01:35:29,800

Fuck, I didn't even see that text.

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01:35:29,809 --> 01:35:30,430

Goddamn.

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01:35:30,469 --> 01:35:31,840

Well, good stuff.

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01:35:33,380 --> 01:35:35,940

Chris: Um, So, we gotta land this plane.

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01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:36,360

Well,

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01:35:36,389 --> 01:35:38,889

Jerome: well, are we releasing

this on Valentine's Day?

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01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:40,500

Chris: Hopefully that week, yeah.

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01:35:40,830 --> 01:35:41,170

Jerome: Okay.

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01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,219

So by the time you all listen

to this give a special hug and

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01:35:45,219 --> 01:35:46,840

kiss to your significant other.

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01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:51,322

But also, the Lions may have

already won the Super Bowl.

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01:35:51,322 --> 01:35:51,977

I can't

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01:35:51,977 --> 01:35:52,305

Chris: wait.

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01:35:52,305 --> 01:35:54,670

I am so excited about this weekend, man.

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01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,510

It's been, I mean, my whole lifetime,

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01:35:58,510 --> 01:35:59,010

Jerome: really.

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01:35:59,090 --> 01:36:02,790

I mean In fact, by the time you listen

to this, I might already be dead.

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01:36:03,389 --> 01:36:03,740

Who knows?

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01:36:04,380 --> 01:36:06,080

Because if the Lions win the Super Bowl

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01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:08,969

Chris: You might die with

that smile on your face.

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01:36:08,969 --> 01:36:10,700

I might die with a smile on my face.

:

01:36:11,050 --> 01:36:15,059

Jerome: I'll be like, I'll be like Richard

Collier in the end of Somewhere in Time.

:

01:36:15,639 --> 01:36:17,450

Except instead of dying

with a broken heart.

:

01:36:17,480 --> 01:36:19,590

Although, although, if you

remember, if you go back and watch

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01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:21,350

his dying scene, he's smiling.

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01:36:21,870 --> 01:36:23,480

Cause he knows he's going to heaven.

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01:36:23,480 --> 01:36:24,790

He knows he's gonna go see Elise McKenna.

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01:36:25,610 --> 01:36:26,710

So, that'll be me.

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01:36:26,710 --> 01:36:27,650

I'm gonna die just smiling.

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01:36:27,790 --> 01:36:29,500

Smiling at the Lions in the Super Bowl.

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01:36:29,930 --> 01:36:31,260

Big road ahead, long road ahead.

:

01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:32,820

Still have to go at San Fran, but still!

:

01:36:33,690 --> 01:36:35,160

As if we get by this week, but still!

:

01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,400

Chris: You know, all these top

dogs have been being knocked off.

:

01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:38,889

Maybe San Fran's been knocked off.

:

01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:40,980

Jerome: I'm telling ya,

maybe they're the next one!

:

01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,170

So folks, when you're listening to this,

hopefully look at your score and look

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01:36:45,170 --> 01:36:46,639

at it and say, man, did the Lions win?

:

01:36:46,639 --> 01:36:47,610

Did the Lions win the Super Bowl?

:

01:36:47,610 --> 01:36:47,930

Yes.

:

01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:48,270

Yes.

:

01:36:48,510 --> 01:36:48,940

Okay.

:

01:36:49,230 --> 01:36:49,420

Good.

:

01:36:50,190 --> 01:36:50,440

Good.

:

01:36:51,500 --> 01:36:53,219

Alright folks, we're

going to land this plane.

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01:36:53,219 --> 01:36:54,540

Keep drinking and keep watching.

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01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:56,710

And go to your local cinema.

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Born and raised in Metro Detroit, Michigan. Graduate of Columbia College Chicago with a degree in Film/Screenwriting. Have lived in California since 2001. I enjoy screenwriting, script consulting and film analysis.
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